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    #16
    Originally posted by iamntxhunter View Post
    An educated voter can't be bought or swayed by someone's money, only those that aren't informed fall victim to such tactics.
    Thus the reason the MSM, Google, Twitter, Facebook and the likes remove and scrub the internet. This is the tactics that fascist and dictatorial regimes do.
    True but money gets the message out and money is paying for the "eduction" people are receiving. I guess we can just agree to disagree that money does or doesn't influence elections.

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      #17
      Originally posted by 150class View Post
      Agreed ^^^





      And OP they are all the same... Just change a few main views and sprinkle in some farther out thoughts and you can have yourself a Democrat or a Republican. At the end of the day they are in it for themselves, their well being and will pander to the public how they see fit to keep themselves in their position. THEY ALL SUCK.



      As for the article I’m sure you can get on a left leaning site and find them complaining about 23 things in the republican platform that they believe are anti American and outlandish.
      LOL...Just change a few main views.
      Just add in some distortion and misdirect and say if this or that and voila they are all the same.


      Show me the Republican party agenda that is even remotely akin to the Democrats. Saying I'm sure you can get on a left leaning site and find them complaining about 23 things in the Republican platform that they believe are anti American and outlandish isn't proving your point that they are the same.

      If they are all the same would you want your city or town, state and country to be ran by democrats?

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        #18
        Originally posted by Pedernal View Post
        True but money gets the message out and money is paying for the "eduction" people are receiving. I guess we can just agree to disagree that money does or doesn't influence elections.
        Originally posted by Pedernal View Post
        True but money gets the message out and money is paying for the "eduction" people are receiving. I guess we can just agree to disagree that money does or doesn't influence elections.
        No, I agree with you that money does influence elections and you have to be well funded to run a campaign.

        Example Joe Biden can buy 10 million dollars worth of commercials and it would change an educated voters, vote.

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          #19
          Originally posted by iamntxhunter View Post
          The Democrats are proposing mail in voting under the next relief bill because Trump wants a tax reduction during this time.

          This is how the Democrat party has always manipulated the system except it is usually hijacked under a defense spending bill or the budget. They do this because they know that nobody in their right mind would support a lot of their ideas if they had to rely on a stand alone vote.

          The republicans have tried many times to stand tall and resist even to the point that the government gets shut down. Every time this happens the MSM comes in and carries their water for them. We all know how that works out. They hold the American people hostage including our military people, it's their ace in the hole.

          The constitution only works for a moral and just society. The system can be used against itself and the Democrats learned early on how to manipulate it.


          Look at what the Democrats did when Reagan worked with them in good faith on illegal immigration. He essentially gave amnesty to those that were already here and the dems were supposed to sign a solid piece of legislation on illegal immigration.
          Once Reagan did his part the Democrats crawfished and didn't follow through.

          You don't have to hold both the House and the Senate when you have people that are in purple areas of the country. That is how you get Senators like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski who run as a Republican but they actually aren't, they are both a RINO.

          You don't have to look back in history any further than Obama Care and John McCain.
          Trump tried to get rid of Obama Care and the Democrats just had to peel one more Republican to get it to fail.
          They were sucessful as we all know.

          If you look at really bad legislation that hurts this country and furthers the socialist agenda it will be written and sponsored by a Democrat in the House.

          Look at how our major city's are ran and all of the gun control they continually try to enforce on the citizens. Even when it is ruled unconstitutional by the SCOTUS they will go back and try to do the same thing over and over forcing many organizations to spend millions in litigation.

          Look at abortion throughout history.

          Stop buying what the Democrats are selling and see how they use the process to weasel their way into getting bills made into law.

          We are so far from our founding principals today.

          With all of that said in not saying that every Republican is a stand up guy or that the Republican party is the answer to all of our problems but I am saying they are our best hope in comparison to the Democrat party. Throughout history the Democrat party has been detrimental to our founding principals.

          Like you said you know what you get with the Democrat pparty, it destruction and decay and to many have bought into their lie.
          Don’t disagree with anything you have said. But I think ultimately the R’s are headed to the same destination as the D’s but on a different route and slower rate of speed. The R’s will take you on the scenic route and make you enjoy the drive, but you end up at the same place the Dems took the express route to.

          Don’t get me wrong, I still vote R’s, but I do it with full knowledge and no fantasy

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            #20
            Originally posted by Bowdark View Post
            Do what there komrad??
            There is nothing communist about a “no party” political system. A candidate makes their own platform, raises their own funds and staffs their own campaign with no national affiliation. Basically everyone is an independent.

            But I don’t think it is a real possibility

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              #21
              I think I got off topic a bit. At the end of the day, I think we all agree that the political system is broken and that politicians are crooks no matter what their party affiliation is.

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                #22
                Well I think the hearing today with Atty. Barr shows just one element that highlights the difference between Republicans and Democrats.
                There is no denying that the Democrats hate the rule of law.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by iamntxhunter View Post
                  Where all the people who say they are the same?

                  Yes they are all politicians and there some bad ones in the Republican party that are money crooks and rhinos for election purposes but the parties are not the same.
                  It's easier to say they are all the same, I say it all the time. They are all inept leaders, who have zero idea what their idea's will do to this country.

                  The republican's, except Trump and arguably Rand Paul, are completely feckless. They passively want everything destroyed so they can complain about it from their ivory towers. They are not leaders. They are losers. See Mitch McConnell, or mittens, or McCain for example. Such feckless clowns. Couldn't even whip McCain to vote to repeal Obamacare. It's absolutely pathetic.

                  Then there are the D's. They actively want to destroy everything. The reason Obama got so much of his agenda through was because he did lead. The D's are searching for a leader. I promise, if they had one, they would continue to destroy this country.

                  So yes, they are all the same. They are all terrible for this country.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Pedernal View Post
                    I think I got off topic a bit. At the end of the day, I think we all agree that the political system is broken and that politicians are crooks no matter what their party affiliation is.
                    I don't think it's broken, I think it's working exactly as it should. If it was broken, we would have had who knows how many other terrible policies from Obama's presidency. We would have entered into the Climate Change Treaty instead of an Accord.

                    Basically, our system is set up to slow down the process of change. And it's doing it very well for the most part. Some stupid gets through, but there is no perfect filter to stop all stupid.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by WItoTX View Post
                      It's easier to say they are all the same, I say it all the time. They are all inept leaders, who have zero idea what their idea's will do to this country.



                      The republican's, except Trump and arguably Rand Paul, are completely feckless. They passively want everything destroyed so they can complain about it from their ivory towers. They are not leaders. They are losers. See Mitch McConnell, or mittens, or McCain for example. Such feckless clowns. Couldn't even whip McCain to vote to repeal Obamacare. It's absolutely pathetic.



                      Then there are the D's. They actively want to destroy everything. The reason Obama got so much of his agenda through was because he did lead. The D's are searching for a leader. I promise, if they had one, they would continue to destroy this country.



                      So yes, they are all the same. They are all terrible for this country.
                      The Dems are still destroying this country.
                      You are expressing opinion but no legislation or party platform that is on record.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by iamntxhunter View Post
                        The Dems are still destroying this country.
                        You are expressing opinion but no legislation or party platform that is on record.
                        Absolutely there is a record. Look at How McCain voted on Obamacare repeal (Legislation). Look how mittens attempts, and fails miserably, to undermine Trump all the time. Mittens voted to impeach Trump. Look at all the people who were "perfect fits" for Trumps cabinet, just to be fired weeks or months later because they actively tried to undermine Trump the entire time they were there. All of this is on record. All of these people were Republicans.

                        Yes. The Republican party platform doesn't say "Undermine Trump and try lose lose all the time", but it doesn't need to. It's obvious what they are doing.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by WItoTX View Post
                          Absolutely there is a record. Look at How McCain voted on Obamacare repeal (Legislation). Look how mittens attempts, and fails miserably, to undermine Trump all the time. Mittens voted to impeach Trump. Look at all the people who were "perfect fits" for Trumps cabinet, just to be fired weeks or months later because they actively tried to undermine Trump the entire time they were there. All of this is on record. All of these people were Republicans.



                          Yes. The Republican party platform doesn't say "Undermine Trump and try lose lose all the time", but it doesn't need to. It's obvious what they are doing.
                          I won't ever convince you of what I am saying but all you are doing is pointing to a few rinos that I have already addressed.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by iamntxhunter View Post
                            I won't ever convince you of what I am saying but all you are doing is pointing to a few rinos that I have already addressed.
                            Fine. But A) those RINOs are the party leadership. B) you can’t produce a list of R’s that outnumber the RINOs. Even Crenshaw is proving to be a RINO. Goody talks a great game, but never actually accomplished anything

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by WItoTX View Post
                              Absolutely there is a record. Look at How McCain voted on Obamacare repeal (Legislation). Look how mittens attempts, and fails miserably, to undermine Trump all the time. Mittens voted to impeach Trump. Look at all the people who were "perfect fits" for Trumps cabinet, just to be fired weeks or months later because they actively tried to undermine Trump the entire time they were there. All of this is on record. All of these people were Republicans.



                              Yes. The Republican party platform doesn't say "Undermine Trump and try lose lose all the time", but it doesn't need to. It's obvious what they are doing.
                              You got 2 no go votes. McCain and Mitt have a personal vendetta against Trump and both of them are huge Rino's
                              People are removed all the time from cabinet positions and I think some weak minded individuals thought they could steer Trump. Some were even left over from the Obama administration.
                              I think your argument to make your point falls short.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Playa View Post
                                Fine. But A) those RINOs are the party leadership. B) you can’t produce a list of R’s that outnumber the RINOs. Even Crenshaw is proving to be a RINO. Goody talks a great game, but never actually accomplished anything
                                Who are you actually referring to as the party leadership?
                                I think I could produce a list but I do agree there is a growing list of Rino's.

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