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Old 11-20-2020, 08:26 PM   #1
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Iíve got a 26Ē Bartlein #8 contour on my .260 in a HS precision stock. Itís heavy, like 14lbs heavy. Would it be better to have the barrel fluted and maybe cut down or just have it rebareled? I would like bring the weight down some for hunting. Itís a little heavy to carry around. Iím ignorant when it comes to things of this nature so I was hoping you guys could help me out. Would fluting it cause any accuracy issues? Itís super accurate as it sits so I donít want to lose any accuracy.


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Old 11-20-2020, 08:28 PM   #2
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#8 is heavy regardless of fluting. Chopping it down to 20-22” and fluting it will save some weight, but it’s not going to save anything significant. Personally I’d drop to a #5 or 6 at the heaviest. I’ve run almost all #5s on my hunting rifles, and I’m really happy with theme
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Old 11-20-2020, 08:36 PM   #3
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#8 is heavy regardless of fluting. Chopping it down to 20-22Ē and fluting it will save some weight, but itís not going to save anything significant. Personally Iíd drop to a #5 or 6 at the heaviest. Iíve run almost all #5s on my hunting rifles, and Iím really happy with theme

Yeah itís great for range shooting and the weight along with the muzzle break makes recoil almost non existent but Iíd like to start hunting with this rifle and as it sits it just too heavy. I was thinking of going with a carbon barrel but I know absolutely nothing about them.


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Old 11-20-2020, 11:41 PM   #4
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I'd put a proof research barrel on it. Very light and very accurate barrels. I've been happy with mine and friends that have them are happy with them as well.
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Old 11-21-2020, 04:18 AM   #5
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2nd the carbon proof barrel..
Fluting won't get you there with that Big ol pipe..
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Old 11-21-2020, 07:14 AM   #6
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Fluting and cutting down the length will shave some weight but probably wouldnít be significant.
Like others have said, Iíd put a proof carbon fiber barrel on it.


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Old 11-21-2020, 07:42 AM   #7
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If you like the way it shoots, you may consider keeping it and building another lightweight version. Even if you swap out the barrel, it sounds like you will still be in the 9+ pound range. I have been looking for a specific Proof barrel since April or May and some are impossible to find.
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Old 11-21-2020, 11:28 AM   #8
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If you like the way it shoots, you may consider keeping it and building another lightweight version. Even if you swap out the barrel, it sounds like you will still be in the 9+ pound range. I have been looking for a specific Proof barrel since April or May and some are impossible to find.

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Old 11-21-2020, 05:51 PM   #9
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If you like the way it shoots, you may consider keeping it and building another lightweight version. Even if you swap out the barrel, it sounds like you will still be in the 9+ pound range. I have been looking for a specific Proof barrel since April or May and some are impossible to find.

This may be what I do. Iíve got a .308 in the safe that I could use for a donor action.


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Old 11-21-2020, 09:33 PM   #10
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I'd put a proof research barrel on it. Very light and very accurate barrels. I've been happy with mine and friends that have them are happy with them as well.


Itís either this or you will need a new stock as well.

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Old 11-21-2020, 09:52 PM   #11
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Everyone needs more than one 260 in their stable! Clearly I vote for the second rifle but if you really want to rebarrel and like heavier (but not number 8 heavy) 3b-5 would be the heaviest I would go for a hunter.

I have a 23 inch #8 on my 308 (m40a3 type build) and she be heavy but she be deadly!


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Old 11-22-2020, 10:43 AM   #12
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Everyone needs more than one 260 in their stable! Clearly I vote for the second rifle but if you really want to rebarrel and like heavier (but not number 8 heavy) 3b-5 would be the heaviest I would go for a hunter.

I have a 23 inch #8 on my 308 (m40a3 type build) and she be heavy but she be deadly!


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A fluted, 24" 3b-5 would be a great choice for a .260....fluting will also help with stiffness and heat dispersion as well during range time.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:19 AM   #13
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A fluted, 24" 3b-5 would be a great choice for a .260....fluting will also help with stiffness and heat dispersion as well during range time.
How does it help with the stiffness?
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:51 AM   #14
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How does it help with the stiffness?


A fluted 5 wo t be any stiffer than a none fluted but a fluted barrel that weighs X amount will be stiffer than a nonfluted barrel of same weight.
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Old 11-22-2020, 12:50 PM   #15
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Removing material will not make it stiffer. But like previously posted, you can flute say a #5 and it will be stiffer and weigh the same as a #4.

But a fluted #5 will not be stiffer than a non fluted #5. You can't remove material from 2 equal pieces and the one with less finished material be stiffer
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Old 11-22-2020, 02:38 PM   #16
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Iíve heard that about it making the barrel stiffer before, I was just wondering what makes people say it. I get the heat dissipation because of the surface area, but I donít even think thatís a big bonus.
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Old 11-23-2020, 12:30 AM   #17
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Couple things....Figure out what you want your end weight to be and back into the barrel contour. Guess being a mountain hunter I have a different opinion on contours....To me a Bartlein #3 is a heavy sporter.....

Most all the weight and potential weight savings are in the barrel and stock......

Once you determine your weight goal w/o optics come back for more info...��

Lastly if you decide on a CF barrel I’d recommend Bartlein in their #4.....I’ve used Proof...
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Old 11-23-2020, 04:00 PM   #18
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BSF carbon fiber barrels are another option also. I have them on our AR 15 and love them.


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Old 11-23-2020, 05:30 PM   #19
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BSF carbon fiber barrels are another option also. I have them on our AR 15 and love them.


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I just checked them out. I like what I see


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Old 11-23-2020, 06:38 PM   #20
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I’ve heard that about it making the barrel stiffer before, I was just wondering what makes people say it. I get the heat dissipation because of the surface area, but I don’t even think that’s a big bonus.
The heat dissipation you get from fluting a barrel is pretty insignificant, especially with wide shallow cuts. If you wanted legit heat dissipation you'd need deep thin cuts while ensuring enough spacing so your boundary layers don't overlap, which is not only prohibitively expensive from a machining standpoint, but likely to be far less awesome than you'd hope, especially with natural convection.

Stiffness depends upon the amount of material in the same plane as the force acting upon it. Take an old wooden ruler, and try to bend it along the skinny side: you'd need some serious muscle to bend it, much less break it. Whereas a child could snap it in two bending the fat side. Same amount of material, just depends on where the force is acting and the material thickness in that plane.

But honestly a fluted barrel weighing 5# won't be that much stiffer than a un-fluted barrel weighing 5#.

Basically I don't think it's worth it as far performance goes. Didn't stop me from owning some. Why? Because they look awesome.

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