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Old 11-05-2022, 09:32 AM   #1
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I have a question around shooting iron sights on a rifle. I have noticed I need to adjust iron sights almost completely to the right whenever i shoot iron sights on a rifle. It seems odd to me that this is universal with almost any rifle i shoot with iron sights. Is this something to do with head positioning or is this normal? I am not talking like a slight adjustment either, I tend to max out the sight adjustment range of travel before I am shooting on-target. I am using peep sights for my rear sights on these rifles also.

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Old 11-05-2022, 09:45 AM   #2
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Are you shooting out of the correct eye? Maybe left eye dominant?


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Old 11-05-2022, 09:55 AM   #3
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I do the same thing. I just Celebrate it as long as I’m still hitting on target
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:11 AM   #4
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cheek on the stock...head up...
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:22 AM   #5
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I shoot my muzzleloader with the sight nearly all the way to the left.
As long as you hit where you aim I wouldn’t worry about it
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:30 AM   #6
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Ghost rings ?

Maybe time to go to a red dot
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Old 11-05-2022, 10:42 AM   #7
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Not normal.
Probably dominant eye issues

I have enough trouble focusing blade, notch and target
I don’t need anything other distractions.
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Old 11-05-2022, 05:01 PM   #8
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don't over think it,, that's why they are adjustable, not every person sees things the same, holds the same and a slight error in milling could be the cause,, if you can get it on target,, go for it
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Old 11-08-2022, 09:27 AM   #9
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I am definitely right eye dominant and shooting that way. I was just concerned that if I sight my gun in at fifty yards, it may have left/right impact issues at different yardages if the sights on aligned with the barrel. I guess I will just have to verify at different yardages, but it was a concern I have due to limited time to sight in my firearm. Thanks all for the suggestions
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Old 11-08-2022, 09:28 AM   #10
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Ghost rings ?

Maybe time to go to a red dot
Unfortunately the hunts im using this on prohibit any optic
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Old 11-08-2022, 10:04 AM   #11
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Hello,

.................................................. .... Is this something to do with head positioning or is this normal? ................................

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I suggest that you already have the answer. Try to be a little more critical of your placement of the gun on your shoulder that might cause you to look down the barrel at a slight canter. this can occur by dropping your head or over cradle your hold.

the evidence of the problem with every rifle you shoot leads one to the possibility that you dont look straight down the barrel through the sight path.

however, I suppose in the end whatever will work for you must be repeatable every time. best wishes
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Old 11-08-2022, 10:11 AM   #12
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Typically it will have nothing to do with head positioning as the sights are aligned. Things like one side of the front sight catching light, your vision, or a rifle where the sights aren’t positioned right or a “cant” are the problem.

For the folk saying “just adjust the sights”, you have never seen a rifle where this is a real problem, the sights way off to one side look like crap.

If using peeps or ghost rings and you make a conscious decision to center the sights then you are using them wrong.

I’ve had several successive rifles where mostly the front sight was not center bore or canted. It sucks !

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Old 11-08-2022, 10:23 AM   #13
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I have enough trouble focusing blade, notch and target

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That’s because it’s not possible to do all at once. Focus on the front sight.
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Old 11-08-2022, 10:26 AM   #14
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Its a lost art
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Old 11-08-2022, 10:46 AM   #15
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That’s because it’s not possible to do all at once. Focus on the front sight.
Thanks.

Even my turkey shotgun has a low power scope!

Would love to see the Gun, sights and shooting style of “Jchunter”.
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Old 11-08-2022, 02:05 PM   #16
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My opinion is know your ballistics and set the irons at 25 yards to whatever it shows for that range for whatever MPBR you choose.

I’m a believer in ghost sights in the rear and a red fiber front for old codgers.

I also believer in getting a good youngin with great eyes and good technique to sight the rifle in with the target line right on top of the dot so all you really have to do is place the dot. This system works as good or better than any Aimpoint on the market

Since I still still do my own sighting I use a blade front.

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Old 11-08-2022, 02:08 PM   #17
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I don’t use green or orange fiber because I find it blends in better and leaves room for mistakes in fresh spring growth and fall leaves.

The red stands out better even if looking at red leaves.
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Old 11-08-2022, 02:40 PM   #18
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I find it more accurate to take a target with those 1” gridlines and put a sharpie dot where they intersect. Either yourself or the young shooter let the one line be center the blade or dot sight and put the dot on top of the front blade with the horizontal line running across the top of the blade. It leaves less room for sighting error. Then I measure accurately the impact point as opposed to the sharpie mark. So if my MPBR for the load says it needs to be 1/4” high at 25, then so be it.

I haven’t seen anything faster than a fiber front and ghost rear either.

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Old 11-11-2022, 01:34 PM   #19
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Typically it will have nothing to do with head positioning as the sights are aligned. Things like one side of the front sight catching light, your vision, or a rifle where the sights aren’t positioned right or a “cant” are the problem.

For the folk saying “just adjust the sights”, you have never seen a rifle where this is a real problem, the sights way off to one side look like crap.

If using peeps or ghost rings and you make a conscious decision to center the sights then you are using them wrong.

I’ve had several successive rifles where mostly the front sight was not center bore or canted. It sucks !
How are you supposed to shot peep sights if you are not supposed to center the front sight bead in the rear "ring?"
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Old 11-11-2022, 01:35 PM   #20
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Thanks.

Even my turkey shotgun has a low power scope!

Would love to see the Gun, sights and shooting style of “Jchunter”.
Ill have to grab some pictures when I go home as I am mid-hitch currently
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Old 11-11-2022, 01:48 PM   #21
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I bought a williams receiver sight for my 336 and couldn't get it to hit the paper. But killing with the buckhorn.
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Old 11-11-2022, 01:58 PM   #22
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Some folks just born cross eyed. Maybe the gun maker was cross eyed?
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Old 11-11-2022, 07:54 PM   #23
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I bought a williams receiver sight for my 336 and couldn't get it to hit the paper. But killing with the buckhorn.
move in close and see whats going on with impact point,,, then adjust sights to center then back up about 20-25 yards at a time
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:15 PM   #24
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I bought a williams receiver sight for my 336 and couldn't get it to hit the paper. But killing with the buckhorn.
I had to replace the front sight with a taller version.
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Old 12-03-2022, 02:32 PM   #25
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The sights on my rifle did not have any horizontal adjustment. I just accounted for this in my shot placement. This was the whitetail I got with it. My first one ever.
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Old 12-03-2022, 03:04 PM   #26
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How are you supposed to shot peep sights if you are not supposed to center the front sight bead in the rear "ring?"
I saw this and have my own input. If you are concentrating on centering the front sight in the rear, you will be off. The eye centers it naturally and you are only supposed to focus on the front.
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Old 12-03-2022, 04:01 PM   #27
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Center the rear sight back up with the barrel. Bump the front sight away from where you want the bullet to hit. A little on the front sight moves the bullet a lot

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Old 12-04-2022, 01:07 AM   #28
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I saw this and have my own input. If you are concentrating on centering the front sight in the rear, you will be off. The eye centers it naturally and you are only supposed to focus on the front.
This is how it works.
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Old 12-04-2022, 06:39 AM   #29
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The sights on my rifle did not have any horizontal adjustment. I just accounted for this in my shot placement. This was the whitetail I got with it. My first one ever.
That old Remington came with front and rear horizontal adjustments
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