A little upset

[Ruttin&Struttin]

Do you all realize that cellphone companies give iPhones away for "free" so that's not a good indicator of disposable income?
I have given old phones away.
My job requires me to have a phone so I have the iPhone 11 coming and two perfectly fine iPhone 10 I can give away to whoever wants them.

Stop judging books by their cover

Not judging books by their cover and stop cherry picking one piece of my sentence. There are many parts to budgeting better which I was alluding to. Glad you can give phones away, when you give so many away and don't sell them, do you also pay for the recipients' data plans? Just asking.

[Dakota7493]

The following is coming from the teacher sitting next to me.

Most folders are color coded. All take home folders are a specific color, red, blue, vanilla....when kids show up the first day with folders that are not the required folders the teacher usually supplies them. They don’t come from the school, the teacher has purchased them. I promise the teacher does not want another princess folder. The school should have supplied a list of required supplies for the school year before school started.

After 18yrs of my wife teaching I have funded probably $1000’s of dollars worth of school supplies for kids I’ve never met.

I'm a teacher, but not elementary. My kids had a list to shop from and things were placed in stacks once they arrived to meet the teacher. However, there were variations to everything. Colors weren't all the same, different pencils, pencil boxes, etc. Even though there were specific requirements they weren't met. The only community things, should be wipes, Kleenex, sanitizer and things like that. The other stuff that a kid will use every day like binders, pencils, crayons and all that should be personalized. My kids enjoyed picking out THEIR stuff when they were younger. I'm sorry but if some kids parents can't afford certain things then this is where the teacher steps in to help out or gets donations.

My wife teaches elementary and I don't want to tell you how much we spend on supplies that kids don't have.

[JSeabolt]

Perfect situation Eight Point, good work on communicating.

[RJH1]

Life aint always cut and dry.

A special needs child changes the whole dynamics of a family, everyone in that family makes sacrifices including siblings. Could be those siblings have no choice but public schools and riding the school bus. Pride can go along ways in a working man's family and aint no one wants a handout. I'm sure you get the drift.

A parent that is diagnosed with cancer and the family is over whelmed with bills from co pay and or bills the insurance does not cover. Things happen.

I understand what you are saying, but every horse aint got the same spots.

I would much rather see either of these situations take some government assistance and home school their kids than send their kids to public school. I feel it would be a much wiser use of public funds and kids can learn a huge amount by helping out in either of these situations, way more than they will ever learn by studying for a STARR (or whatever it is called now) test.

Texas spends $10,000+ a year per student, does anyone really think they are getting their money's worth?

[MRWHITE87]

glad all it took was a little communication.

That's generally the cause of nearly all problems-poor communication.
Unfortunately most parents (maybe only 53% but still most) don't engage as much as they should in the education of their child.

I also agree that it is the voters fault.
Arlington passes multi million/BILLION dollar bonds REGULARLY because people think, "Oh its for the kids, we HAVE to pass it!" but all it does is build football stadiums and training facilities and bigger lunchrooms then they put up nice clean new windows on the front of the building so it looks like money well spent. They dont actually use it to get rid of the old worthless teachers or incentivize the good ones to stay. They dont put it toward supplies or cut out the worthless administrators who get WAY more money than the teachers do yet they only walk around checking boxes to satiate the "governments" mandate that certain things be done to keep getting the $$$.

Larry Sharpe had it right, yall. If that name doesnt ring a bell, go listen to the Rogan podcast he was on. Common sense needs a comeback, with decisions based on logic rather than emotion.
I'm glad my kid goes to a charter school, even though it's still "public", they at least have a slightly higher standard. Wish I could afford straight up private but not this year.

[Radar]

I would much rather see either of these situations take some government assistance and home school their kids than send their kids to public school. I feel it would be a much wiser use of public funds and kids can learn a huge amount by helping out in either of these situations, way more than they will ever learn by studying for a STARR (or whatever it is called now) test.

Texas spends $10,000+ a year per student, does anyone really think they are getting their money's worth?

I'll be sure to share your post with my brother and neighbor, I already know what their answer is.

[RiverRat1]

Not judging books by their cover and stop cherry picking one piece of my sentence. There are many parts to budgeting better which I was alluding to. Glad you can give phones away, when you give so many away and don't sell them, do you also pay for the recipients' data plans? Just asking.

You can't win. Some people really are that naïve or dumb and think that people really are that poor. But would never admit the 1 "poor" person they know has a cell phone, smokes, goes out to eat, has cable and on and on...

Now back in the 70's I could have shown you a few poor people.. 80's not too many. Now? 1 in 10,000 maybe has a good excuse.

[Hooverfb]

back button......still waiting on moose thread updates.

Lol yup. Sounds like anything I'd of said that would be constructive has been said...

[Backwoods101]

Not an overreaction at all. So freakin tired of handing out stuff to the dependents of bags of crap

Amen

[Backwoods101]

They're simply pre-conditioning your daughter for the socialist America she'll be growing up in.

Pretty much

on a side note, that view at Torr Na Lochs is 2nd to none

[RJH1]

I'll be sure to share your post with my brother and neighbor, I already know what their answer is.

So, are you saying it was really never about money, it was just about want to?

Not saying it is the case here, but usually people would rather just send their kids off to have someone else look after them instead of putting in the work themselves. Unfortunately, it is generally to the detriment of the kids IMO. I don't understand why people think other people can raise their kids better than they can. Because, that is what public school have turned into, secondary or sometimes primary parents. Think about it, in most cases kids spend considerable more waking time in school than with their parents and family, that is a problem

[Dakota7493]

You can't win. Some people really are that naïve or dumb and think that people really are that poor. But would never admit the 1 "poor" person they know has a cell phone, smokes, goes out to eat, has cable and on and on...

Now back in the 70's I could have shown you a few poor people.. 80's not too many. Now? 1 in 10,000 maybe has a good excuse.

You don't know how true this really is! I see if every day in my line of work! Xmas is delayed a few months till income tax returns. smh...

[Radar]

So, are you saying it was really never about money, it was just about want to?

Not saying it is the case here, but usually people would rather just send their kids off to have someone else look after them instead of putting in the work themselves. Unfortunately, it is generally to the detriment of the kids IMO. I don't understand why people think other people can raise their kids better than they can. Because, that is what public school have turned into, secondary or sometimes primary parents. Think about it, in most cases kids spend considerable more waking time in school than with their parents and family, that is a problem

Nope, never said any of that. Just posted that sometimes things dont work out so good, and home schooling or private schools aint in the mix. I aint got none of the answers you is looking for, but can assure you that my brother and his wife are doing a great job of raising a family without any gubment handouts and they have kids in public schools plus one that has to stay at home.

I aint gonna pizz with you any more son, got chores and hunting to do.

[Dakota7493]

I would much rather see either of these situations take some government assistance and home school their kids than send their kids to public school. I feel it would be a much wiser use of public funds and kids can learn a huge amount by helping out in either of these situations, way more than they will ever learn by studying for a STARR (or whatever it is called now) test.

Texas spends $10,000+ a year per student, does anyone really think they are getting their money's worth?

Half of your education in a public school doesn't come from books and teachers bud. The social interactions with friends and adults can't be learned from a home schooling like it can from public schools. Take that with a grain of salt too cause some things learned aren't desired if you know what I mean.

Home Schooling takes a strong home/parent situation too and more of us than not couldn't give the education they kid needs and it's not because we don't know the subject matter.

[RJH1]

Half of your education in a public school doesn't come from books and teachers bud. The social interactions with friends and adults can't be learned from a home schooling like it can from public schools. Take that with a grain of salt too cause some things learned aren't desired if you know what I mean.

Home Schooling takes a strong home/parent situation too and more of us than not couldn't give the education they kid needs and it's not because we don't know the subject matter.

That is what i used to think, but I was wrong too. (except for the strong home/parent part, may not be %100 necessary, but I do think it helps)