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Old 02-13-2021, 04:11 PM   #1
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Default Axis and Black buck survival???

I'm thinking these prolonged brutal temps in the hill country will be very hard on these 2 species, not to mention the many African species scattered around.. Axis that are growing antlers(a lot of soft tissue)will probably have issues with their antlers freezing solid causing severe damaged. I know their ears will frost bite and die..
For you guys with a lot of experience with these animals, what are your thoughts..
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Old 02-13-2021, 04:18 PM   #2
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This will be very hard on the black buck

The axis in velvet will probably have some deformities when they come out of velvet

Like you said above ears frostbite bad


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Old 02-13-2021, 04:39 PM   #3
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This will be very hard on the black buck

The axis in velvet will probably have some deformities when they come out of velvet

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Yea, over the years I have mounted several Axis and Nilgai with 1/2 ears and a couple of of BB that way..
I was afraid that the BB being so short haired wouldn't take this cold good at all.
Sad, sad deal.. I am afraid a bunch will die.
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If I owned a ranch that had many of these warm weather animals, I'd run a fire sale, half price, and have hunters take as many as possible. Then, buy as many as I need come warmer weather. I'd take a hit, for sure, but not as bad as having tons of dead carcasses lying on the ground.
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Old 02-14-2021, 10:53 AM   #5
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I’ve been having customers call in for 3 days now with dead exotics. Mainly blackbuck but on guy found three dead waterbuck yesterday. There’s going to be a loss for sure.
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Old 02-14-2021, 12:28 PM   #6
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I’ve been having customers call in for 3 days now with dead exotics. Mainly blackbuck but on guy found three dead waterbuck yesterday. There’s going to be a loss for sure.
Dang.. Yea you are probably going to get pretty busy over this ordeal..
I know of a few Kudu and Eland up your way. I cant imagine them doing very good in this mess.....
I'm betting the "Star S" out of Mason is getting hit pretty hard.. I know they had a few Bongo.. Those things don't do fair well at all in bitter cold...
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Old 02-14-2021, 12:44 PM   #7
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Dang.. Yea you are probably going to get pretty busy over this ordeal..
I know of a few Kudu and Eland up your way. I cant imagine them doing very good in this mess.....
I'm betting the "Star S" out of Mason is getting hit pretty hard.. I know they had a few Bongo.. Those things don't do fair well at all in bitter cold...
The last two years or so, lots of ranches have turned to African game. Losses could be ugly.
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Old 02-14-2021, 12:50 PM   #8
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Yep, thered be a reason African animals are in Africa. If I was invested in lots of animals that could go belly up like a dinosaur, I'd definitely have a Plan B for times like this.
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Old 02-14-2021, 01:18 PM   #9
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Think were about to have a bunch of dead blackbuck in Bandera. This guy has a bum back leg and just decided to make his temporary home on my front porch. Looks pretty rough and Id be real surprised if he makes it till tomorrow.






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Old 02-14-2021, 01:19 PM   #10
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Quackadikt bring him inside
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Old 02-14-2021, 01:22 PM   #11
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Trust me, my wife is exploring all possibilities on that.


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Old 02-14-2021, 01:25 PM   #12
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I know of a ranch in Mason that has lost a few axis and blackbuck so far. Gonna get a lot worse before it gets better.
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Old 02-14-2021, 01:30 PM   #13
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Just curious, are they still eatable if they die from the cold? I’d think so.
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Old 02-14-2021, 02:11 PM   #14
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My parents did a quick ride and saw our entire blackbuck herd. They were eating the alfalfa, cottonseed, and protein. Lots of high energy feed allows them to produce more heat and stay warm. I agree that it’s going to get worse but our hope is if we continue to feed them it can only help.
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Old 02-14-2021, 02:25 PM   #15
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My parents did a quick ride and saw our entire blackbuck herd. They were eating the alfalfa, cottonseed, and protein. Lots of high energy feed allows them to produce more heat and stay warm. I agree that its going to get worse but our hope is if we continue to feed them it can only help.
I think yours definitely have a fighting chance. The ranch I heard the death loss on is not in near as good of shape. Overpopulation of exotics, bad range conditions, and only hand feeding. Death loss will be huge.
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Old 02-14-2021, 02:30 PM   #16
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We have been feeding nonstop for the last 4-5 days. Coastal, alfalfa, and protein. I have already seen 5 dead calves 3 gemsbok, 2 oryx. We are going to lose a lot more, but we are as prepared as we could have been. We lost our entire herd of waterbuck 3-4 years ago in that hard freeze.
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Old 02-14-2021, 07:03 PM   #17
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Old 02-14-2021, 10:11 PM   #18
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Expecting to lose quite a few in the next couple of days. Gona be tough
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Old 02-14-2021, 10:29 PM   #19
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Too bad whitetails don’t eat those other species.

I’ve always been a proponent of “sending them back” to where they came from.
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Old 02-14-2021, 10:52 PM   #20
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Man it is hard to fathom Texas with no exotics in the hill country anymore but from what I seeing on this thread, and froms what I am hearing from friends in the hill country, it sounds like that is where we are headed... I can't imagine..

Praying for all the ranchers who are losing their lively hoods due to this..
This is just sickening..
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Old 02-14-2021, 11:31 PM   #21
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Just bought a small place in Menard area. Was looking forward to hopefully seeing some Axis out there. This is a bad deal but its all in Gods hands my friend's stay safe
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Old 02-15-2021, 10:35 AM   #22
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Found two in my yard alone this morning and one around the circle from my house thats almost gone. We had a lot of fresh babies from the last few weeks and Id imagine theyre all gone. Interested to see how many dead ones are in our neighborhood once the snow melts some.






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Old 02-15-2021, 11:45 AM   #23
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Man that’s hard to see. Gonna be rough
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Old 02-15-2021, 06:17 PM   #24
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Dang that is just absolutely BRUTAL...
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Old 02-15-2021, 06:19 PM   #25
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Sad. Mother nature can sure be a Karen,
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Old 02-15-2021, 06:47 PM   #26
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I had 19 Blackbucks a day are two ago. Fed today and only 15 showed up. Hope that is all I've lost. My older herd buck did not show up. Sure hope he survived.
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Old 02-15-2021, 07:14 PM   #27
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I had 19 Blackbucks a day are two ago. Fed today and only 15 showed up. Hope that is all I've lost. My older herd buck did not show up. Sure hope he survived.
Tonight and tomorrow will be much worse. And, then again Thursday after getting drenched Wednesday.
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Old 02-17-2021, 03:47 PM   #28
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120 axis and BB dead on a ranch near me. 90% BB from what I’m hearing. I’m not going to post the pics. They are heartbreaking.
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Old 02-17-2021, 04:18 PM   #29
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I lost 2 Blackbuck and about a dozen Axis
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Old 02-17-2021, 07:34 PM   #30
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Dang it!!!
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Old 02-17-2021, 08:44 PM   #31
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Just like a fish kill, this will take at least a decade to recover.
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Old 02-17-2021, 08:53 PM   #32
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My parents have a herd of 10 axis that they would see on a regular basis, they put out alfalfa and the whole 9 yards for them. Today, my mom said they’ve only been seeing 1 doe from that group. Not looking great. We are all sick to our stomach over it ☹️
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Im counting my blessings so far. Been staying on these animals the last 4 days and Im tired. So far I havnt lost anything but 2nd ranch I manage I found an axis doe today limping really bad. Either broke leg or possibly bedded down for so long the leg had zero blood flow. If I see her tomorrow and she is still limping bad then I may go ahead and take her. All other animals so far are very energetic. Got a good 1/2 of sleet and probably 3-4 of additional snow before dark. We will see what tomorrow holds! Few pics from today
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:02 PM   #34
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Found two blackbuck does dead in our pond yesterday when went out to bust ice on the pond. The whole pond was not iced over yet. No idea why these two went into the pond. Checked fence line and no coyotes were in or tracks in the snow. Only saw a few of the axis
Been on free choice protein, rice bran corn hay and high energy feed for the last week and these two were fat and healthy
It’s hardest on the males that have been breeding and fighting and the young ones
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:03 PM   #35
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Mother Nature will hit the reset button on ya, especially when man puts wildlife where they dont belong.


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Very True.. I would imagine that the Kudu, Bongo and Eland are taking a huge hit.. Their winter coats are still basically no hair at all..

Ive always wondered how those short haired black buck survive our normal hill country winters....
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My parents have a herd of 10 axis that they would see on a regular basis, they put out alfalfa and the whole 9 yards for them. Today, my mom said theyve only been seeing 1 doe from that group. Not looking great. We are all sick to our stomach over it ☹️
Where is that? Sorry for your folks . I feed a few whitetail around the house
Put out water for them yesterday and an extra protein block
8 days in a row we havent been over 30 degrees in brown county
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Old 02-24-2021, 02:45 PM   #38
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waiting to hear now if my hunts cancelled for next weekend

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Old 02-24-2021, 03:14 PM   #39
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Very True.. I would imagine that the Kudu, Bongo and Eland are taking a huge hit.. Their winter coats are still basically no hair at all..

Ive always wondered how those short haired black buck survive our normal hill country winters....
Kudu seemed to fair ok in both hill country and south texas for whatever reason.
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Kudu seemed to fair ok in both hill country and south texas for whatever reason.
Great news.. I would not have expected that... A bunch will no doubt have bad frost bite on their ears.. I've mounted a couple of kudu over the years with 1/3 of their ear gone.. Straight across like a scissor cut..
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