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Old 11-24-2020, 07:04 PM   #1
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Unfortunately our ranch is short on high scoring bucks.
We have good deer numbers, justvthe sand we call soil makes nutrients for growing antlers not great.
What makes it more challenging is the fact that these deer seem difficult to get them to accept and use different feeds including protein.
I've mixed it with corn in a free feed through and they pick out the corn.
Now the pigs, they'll eat anything you put out.
Pens are another issue. 75% of the deer won't jump in a pen with 36" panels.
I think our deer are mentally challenged.

That said I'm just looking for ab5 year old or older buck. Bbutvthat is a tough one to come by too it seems.

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Old 11-24-2020, 07:09 PM   #2
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For me a trophy buck is in the eye of the hunter. Because everybody has an opinion on what a trophy should be. If he makes you happy and you like him then he’s a trophy to you.
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Old 11-24-2020, 07:25 PM   #3
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A trophy is in the eye of the beholder.
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Old 11-24-2020, 07:37 PM   #4
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ANY whitetail buck with a bow is a trophy, some bigger than other but all trophies none the less
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Old 11-24-2020, 07:37 PM   #5
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That's my point. I've spent the last few seasons being discouraged because I had no deer that would make P&Y around and went in knowing management and culls were the targets.
This season I decided to enjoy season with inches not being the goal. Hopefully one of the two mature bucks I have on camera will show but I'm gonna kill stuff regardless.
I'm just realizing how much work and time it will be to improve nutrition/antler potential.
Realizing it's gonna be a long road to finally having trophy, at least what I'm looking for, around.
And finding a way to spend those years being satisfied with the best we have right now.

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Old 11-24-2020, 07:38 PM   #6
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ANY whitetail buck with a bow is a trophy, some bigger than other but all trophies none the less
Yeah, that works for a couple of decades then . . .

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Old 11-24-2020, 07:52 PM   #7
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Yeah, you got to come to grips with what is possible on the place you hunt. I kinda squint and shake my head when guys post something like “I passed on him because he’s only 5 and would score no more than 140”. It would be nice to be in the position to make that decision but where I hunt that is not realistic. It is a fallacy that if you just give them enough time, all bucks will be 150+. I mostly pass on bucks - I’m fine shooting does until when/if something spectacular shows up but I’m not holding my breath.
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Old 11-24-2020, 08:32 PM   #8
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That's where I am. I have a 3yo 7 that needs to go and a 2yo long spike I'd let a guest whack.

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Old 11-24-2020, 08:35 PM   #9
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Iíve killed 2 bucks this year. One was a 117Ē 8pt that I shot behind my house, and Iím super happy with him. The other was about the same size, but had ground shrinkage. I thought he was bigger than he turned out to be when I shot him. No biggie though! I shot them both with my recurve, and neither made it past 75yds, so Iím a happy camper!!!!!

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Old 11-24-2020, 09:37 PM   #10
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My Marine buddy lives just north of San Antonio. Years ago I drove out from Michigan to help him drive back to Michigan so he could hunt whitetail in Michigan again after 40 plus years after they legalized the crossbow for the disabled. You see my buddy got shot on the top of his head in Viet Nam and it left him right side paralyzed.

We sat in his Mule talking about old times, Marine service times and in general how wonderful it was to be alive when a spike buck stepped out. Bob placed a great shot on that buck. We looked at each and dang near started crying as he was so happy for this gift of a deer. My son and I tracked the deer and got it back to camp. As the deer hung on my buck pole Bob sat in his wheel chair just shaking his head, laughing and having a great deer camp time over this spike buck.

My friends, that is the definition of a trophy.

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Old 11-24-2020, 09:49 PM   #11
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A trophy to me is the biggest deer that a particular property can produce.
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Old 11-24-2020, 10:11 PM   #12
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A chicken fried deer steak and a Miller lite is about as good a trophy as anything Iíve found.


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Old 11-24-2020, 10:15 PM   #13
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Bacon & Cream cheese make any deer a Trophy! But goes better with Proper #12 on the rocks!!!
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Old 11-24-2020, 10:27 PM   #14
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When I get that feeling. That’s my trophy!
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Old 11-24-2020, 10:56 PM   #15
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On our ranch, a trophy is in the eye of the beholder. We have no age limit the only requirement is if you shoot a rack deer you shoulder mount it. I have not shot a WT buck in 5 years, I have shot a 33 inch axis buck, shoulder mounted on my wall. As others have said a trophy is in the eye of the beholder. My best trophy to date is a 2 year old WT doe killed with my recurve. More of a trophy to me than my axis buck killed with a rifle. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 11-25-2020, 05:13 AM   #16
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The deer will eventually eat whatever is out. It took a few years for the deer on my place in the hill country to start eating the pellets mixed with corn. This was before "deer feed" was popular and even had people scough at the idea of feeding a deer something with any nutritional value more than corn.
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Old 11-25-2020, 04:39 PM   #17
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Please take my comment with a grain of salt, since they are coming from a guy who has never shot a buck. To me, a trophy is a pleasurable hunt topped with meat in the freezer. The memories and experiences of these times shared with friends are worth more to me than a set of antlers. Maybe someday, I will go after a buck, but at this time I feel blessed hunting does, up close.
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Old 11-25-2020, 07:23 PM   #18
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A grilled ring of smoked link sausage from Griffith Taxidermy in Burnet with some scrambled eggs, Texas Toast and hash browns is a trophy, especially from an archery deer. As far as bucks go, a trophy for me is a buck that I worked hard for that brings that moment in time back to life, with the respect all going to the natural beauty of the buck, rather than to me.
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Old 11-25-2020, 09:28 PM   #19
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I haven't seen a buck in four years that got me pumped to shoot.
Don't get me wrong. I'll shoot cull and management bucks. In the end they are meat. Delicious, healthy meat.
But after all these years, money spent and time served on good properties, mid 120s bucks are the best I've done. And that isn't a big buck to me any more. But I got sick of going into season with nothing special on the cameras, discouraged before opening day. So this year it's about shooting a mature buck. Five plus, with a trad bow, on property I'm an owner of and putting blood, sweat and money into to improve.

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Old 11-28-2020, 06:12 AM   #20
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A trophy is anything taken with a trad bow
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Old 12-01-2020, 10:35 AM   #21
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I've got one place that's around 200 acres or so I've been fortunate to hunt for the last 20 years and I'm still stumped to this day about it. I've seen the deer numbers increase greatly during that time period and if I want to go hunting to see deer and have an opportunity nearly 100% of the time, it is the go to place. With that being said, it is the mecca for 115" deer, regardless of age and I have zero clue why. I know people who hunt the area all the way around it and multiple 170+ deer are taken every year within a mile or so of its perimeter. We put very little pressure on it, its covered with cameras all over, lots of food, thick cover, water, ect. and still to this day I've yet to get pictures of a deer over the mid 150's mark and I've got thousands of pictures the last few years.
It stinks putting so much time and effort into the place, but I hold the hope that at some point the tide will turn and we will start having some of the giants on our place that the area is known for. I still go back time after time knowing that the chances of killing a 120+ are slim, but it is still a blast to hunt and I consider every deer shot there with a stick bow a trophy.
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:09 AM   #22
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I've got no where else to burn the tags so I guess I'll smack a cull or two but I will enjoy eating them.

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Old 12-01-2020, 11:38 AM   #23
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I'm with the folks who say it's whatever you think it is.
To me the hunt matters far more than the kill-- even if it's just sitting in a tree watching the sunrise.
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:42 AM   #24
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:35 PM   #25
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You know I'd not shoot a deer if I stuck to this.
And I so like eat them.

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Old 12-01-2020, 01:52 PM   #26
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You can't kill what's not there. Hunt the best bucks you have on your place and be happy if you get a target buck.

I wouldn't want to put time and money into a place that didn't have a reasonable change to grow 140'' deer annually, but big horns are still a large part of the chase for me - even w/ the bow. Putting feed money into a deer herd that is limited by genetics, available natural browse, or surrounding hunting pressure would make me consider a move to greener pastures.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:57 PM   #27
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I wouldn't want to put time and money into a place that didn't have a reasonable change to grow 140'' deer annually, but big horns are still a large part of the chase for me - even w/ the bow. Putting feed money into a deer herd that is limited by genetics, available natural browse, or surrounding hunting pressure would make me consider a move to greener pastures.
Well if I were independently wealthy I might have a better ranch.
However we are working on this one and while there is an opportunity it could be flipped and us move for now it is where we are.
We have all of those factors. On one side no hunters. But on the other they are hunting 7 hunters on less than 900 acres and are brown and down folks.
We'd like to lease the place out from under them next season.

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Old 12-01-2020, 02:18 PM   #28
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Any animal you are proud of, to me, that would be anything I kill. The adventure, memory, and enjoyment is all that matters at the end of the day.

Heck I killed a pronghorn back in early October in WY, measured 10”, he was beat up and already had been wounded by another buck and hunter and limping around on 3 legs. At the end of the trip I was happy as can be as it took 6 days to finally get a shot on a buck and it was a great memory. That pronghorn skull now hangs on the wall in my dining room.
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Old 12-01-2020, 02:22 PM   #29
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Like already said any deer can be a trophy to someone. For me I always think older , mature or post mature bucks are more of a trophy. They are fewer and far between, and smarter than younger deer.
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Old 12-01-2020, 02:30 PM   #30
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Eye of the beholder.

I see a kid on here with a spike on the ground and I consider that more of a trophy than anything 150 plus bought and paid for but I am sure to that person it is a trophy so.... back to the top.
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Old 12-01-2020, 02:49 PM   #31
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Eye of the beholder.

I see a kid on here with a spike on the ground and I consider that more of a trophy than anything 150 plus bought and paid for but I am sure to that person it is a trophy so.... back to the top.
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Old 12-01-2020, 02:54 PM   #32
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If its a trophy to you thats all that matters. Whether it's a buck with a great set of horns and a huge body or a 150lb spike or a really nice doe. Doesnt matter what anyone else thinks. If its a trophy to you. Its a trophy
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Mature deer, buck or doe is a trophy in my eyes.

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Old 12-01-2020, 03:23 PM   #34
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Trophy is in the eyes of the hunter. Trophy and record book are two different classifications or definition.
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Old 12-01-2020, 03:33 PM   #35
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For me a trophy buck is in the eye of the hunter. Because everybody has an opinion on what a trophy should be. If he makes you happy and you like him then heís a trophy to you.
I agree with this if it makes you happy don't let anybody tell you any different
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Old 12-01-2020, 06:26 PM   #36
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Anything on public is a trophy! On a lease itís gotta be at least 169 7/8!

If your happy with shooting it itís a trophy! We take pics with does just like the bucks!
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Old 12-01-2020, 07:31 PM   #37
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If your happy with shooting it itís a trophy! We take pics with does just like the bucks!
I'm happy shooting pigs.
So I guess I should shut up and just shoot one.
I did see a nice 10 across on the neighbors side walking out the other day. About 300 yards from a blind I set up and never a pic of him.

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Old 12-02-2020, 09:37 AM   #38
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I'm happy shooting pigs.
So I guess I should shut up and just shoot one.
I did see a nice 10 across on the neighbors side walking out the other day. About 300 yards from a blind I set up and never a pic of him.

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Sounds like you know where to hunt next time!

Iím surprised you still have any pigs around with the year youíve had!
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Old 12-02-2020, 10:25 AM   #39
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Sounds like you know where to hunt next time!



Iím surprised you still have any pigs around with the year youíve had!
We see then constantly. But not often at feeders right now. They are scarfing up the last of the acorns.
I think the rifle hunters next door have them a little spooked. They are at the feeders all night scrounging though.

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Money seems to dictate “ trophy size” to many times. If you have enough money you can kill a huge animal ( or have a super hot, way younger wife lol) of what ever species you want. That is normally not discussed when showing off ones “ trophy( s)“ though. I think a 120” inch deer or even less, that was shot on public land, or many times private land with no high fences, only cost the price of the lic. is a great “ trophy “. Unfortunately we are tying to “ impress” others and that becomes what controls us. We are guys ( the majority of us) and bigger, faster, more expensive, better looking is bred into us. So I guess it really all depends on who you want to impress, and how much your willing to spend doing it. Some times we get lucky and a “ trophy” finds us with out it costing more then an average one, but that is rare, and truly a “ trophy” in my eyes. Be happy with what Gods offers you, is kinda my motto.

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Old 12-02-2020, 01:44 PM   #41
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So I guess it really all depends on who you want to impress, and how much your willing to spend doing it.

Man, thatís pretty cynical! I hope most folks donít think that way!!!!! I could care less who I impress with any critter I shoot. And every critter I shoot with my bow is a trophy to me! It does not matter if itís a 50#pig or a booner buck!!!!!!

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Old 12-02-2020, 02:53 PM   #42
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You don’t see many posting pictures of spikes, does, 120” deer( young kids not considered) . Cow elk, again spikes, two and three point bulls. And the reason we normally post pictures is to kinda show it off, some times to tell a story, or show how many of something we killed. Our avatars are not of small bucks or bulls which are considered non trophy by most people. We want to impress and have a wow check that out, where did you kill that thing, reaction. I am not saying any thing is wrong with it , it’s just the way we are. I to consider any pig, javelina, any elk, any deer with my bow, pistol or black powder rifles as trophy’s . But I hunt with and around a whole bunch of guys and many will look down there nose at you if you consider any of those any sort of , “ trophy”. I have even been told by a few they are in a “higher class “ of hunter then myself, because they would not ever consider shooting any thing less then a 320” inch bull, 170” buck, javelina are rats not worth wasting an arrow on, any pig that won’t top 200” pounds. And if you cant guarantee them a chance at that type of animal they don’t want to hunt with you. Now some put in a lot of work trying, and many decide to shoot something far smaller then they had in their mind, but they don’t go posting it on there face book pages, or most any other place. And many don’t even want their picture taken with them. Now if it’s a “ trophy “ they can’t have enough pictures taken, will drive miles to get phone reception to post their pictures on every available sight you can think of. And surely you don’t see small examples of deer and elk and such filling the trophy room walls, even if it’s only there for ourselves to see. And showing off the trophy room is for sure to show others what we have accomplished, I mean really it is.
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Old 12-02-2020, 07:11 PM   #44
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I don't have a trophy room. But I've killed a few 115 to 125 bucks. Killing a basket rack 8 or a cull just isn't motivating except from a meat stand point. It's kind of like shooting pigs or rabbits. Fun. A good ending to the day and meat to eat. But the rack/skull cap gets hung on a fish stringer and just hangs in the garage.
I can remember killing most of them. But there is a point in time where you go from just killing one is important to which one you kill is important.

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Old 12-08-2020, 01:43 PM   #45
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I only supplement with cotton seed and texas 12 cattle mineral now. It takes a little while but sure seems to help although our soil and brush is pretty good. Surprised you couldn't get them hooked on protein. usually after 3 mths they start pounding it at least when i was ranching in kinney and jim hogg county maybe try the mineral sure cant hurt just pour out on the ground at every feed station and keep it going so it makes natural type lick mixed in with the dirt
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Old 12-08-2020, 04:40 PM   #46
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Old 12-08-2020, 09:39 PM   #47
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A trophy buck to me personally is small compared to what others consider a trophy. However on the flip side what a trophy redfish for me personally might be bigger than others.
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Old 12-09-2020, 09:27 PM   #48
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A trophy buck to me personally is small compared to what others consider a trophy. However on the flip side what a trophy redfish for me personally might be bigger than others.
My biggest was just a hair under 41". Drug me in my kayak a long way at High Island.

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Old 12-10-2020, 01:45 AM   #49
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My biggest was just a hair under 41". Drug me in my kayak a long way at High Island.

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Old 12-10-2020, 11:48 AM   #50
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A trophy is what fits your budget. Some are more fortunate than others but we all love to hunt. Just enjoy the outdoors and the time with friends.
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