Aluminum ILF recurves, Talk some sense into me. - TexasBowhunter.com Community Discussion Forums

Stoof · 03-26-2021, 09:29 AM

I made the mistake of shooting a Satori a while back and it has haunted me ever since. I really like the feel of the more slender grip and overall feel compared to wooden risers. I am also on a budget at least a cash in hand budget. The issue I am having is the amount of 17-19" risers out there. Tons of Chinese stuff with prices all over the place. I am looking at risers and limbs for the build myself route. I have also been looking at the Samick Discovery and the Win and Win Black Elk. Both of these bows are hard to find in stock with the foam limbs. I have found a few Samicks with wood core limbs (50#) but It looks like they require some work to build up a strike plate for shelf shooting.

Is it possible to build up a bow for $400? And can any of y'all steer me in the right direction? Or should I just eat a little CC debt and get a Satori?

Thanks!

jmark100 · 03-26-2021, 11:23 AM

EXE risers are well made. I have a 25" blizzard and it is a great riser for the price.
Mark

Bluedevil · 03-26-2021, 11:32 AM

I feel you on the stocking issues. I am waiting to pull the trigger on the W&W Black Wolf. Lancaster says they hope to have more in in 3-weeks.

TXRebel · 03-26-2021, 11:42 AM

If you are just starting out as a new recurve shooter, I would recommend finding a less expensive set up than the Satori. You won't be out as much money if you find out you don't like it. The only problem is being able to try the bow out before purchasing, there are not a lot of brick and mortars that stock trad equipment. You won't know if you like a bow until you've shot it.

The aluminum riser shelf can be built up and out in numerous ways. Google, "building up a riser shelf", for some ideas.

An OMP Night Ridge can be had for less than $400. I shot one for a year, with a built up shelf. I had no complaints with the bow, I just didn't like the side plate build out, and decided to go with a wood riser, cut closer to center.

Don't let me talk you out of the Satori, if that's the bow you want.

Stoof · 03-26-2021, 12:07 PM

Thanks for the feedback. I have been shooting a Sarrels Ridgecat for a while. I did call Lancaster yesterday about back order times on the Win & Win and they couldn't get me a good timeline. Amazon has risers listed but they are all over the place price wise and there is little info on them to be found online.

TXRebel · 03-26-2021, 12:31 PM

^^^^^^I'm shooting a Ridgecat as well and prefer it over the OMP.^^^^^^

Stoof · 03-26-2021, 01:05 PM

I just found The OMP Night Ridge in 50# for $279.00 from Bowhunting Outlet. Seemed to good to pass up for the price and the favorable reviews I found online. Thanks for the suggestion TXRebel.

TXRebel · 03-26-2021, 01:13 PM

^^^^^Your Welcome! Hope you like it and I didn't guide you wrong.^^^^^^^

Stoof · 03-26-2021, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TXRebel

^^^^^Your Welcome! Hope you like it and I didn't guide you wrong.^^^^^^^

At that price the riser should do what I'm looking for. Limbs seem to make all difference so I can play around from there.

Thanks again,

60 Deluxe · 03-27-2021, 05:33 AM

I have a couple of Buffalo risers that I rigged out with carbon foam limbs on the cheap. Less than $400 in both of them. I found the limbs in the FITA classifieds on Archerytalk.com. Like new for $150 to $175. I still want to find an ILF riser so I can spend some more of my money on ILF limbs that come up at bargain prices. I've had the Satori already and did not really care for it. I'm looking hard at the Samick Discovery and just yesterday saw the Farmington Atlas 19" riser at 3Rivers Archery. The Atlas also has an option for the brass weight, if you think that it is necessary. I actually prefer the look of the Atlas over the Discovery.

TradAg02 · 03-27-2021, 07:54 AM

I have a pair of Win&Win Trad tech limbs I’m not shooting. 50# shorts. $100 These are the lower end wood limbs.

I also have a pair of foam carbon I’m not shooting. 55# shorts. $400

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Stoof · 03-27-2021, 09:53 AM

Bow should be here on Wednesday. 19 inch riser with medium limbs. 60 AMO, which I'm assuming will make it stack up quick. Looking forward to playing around with all the different options available with these kinds of set ups. I'll probably work on getting up to a 62-64 inch length soon.

Briar Friar · 03-27-2021, 11:59 AM

Good luck on the setup Stoof.

hpdrifter · 03-27-2021, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoof

Bow should be here on Wednesday. 19 inch riser with medium limbs. 60 AMO, which I'm assuming will make it stack up quick. Looking forward to playing around with all the different options available with these kinds of set ups. I'll probably work on getting up to a 62-64 inch length soon.

My chart says 62".

Enjoy. I got a inexpensive 66" target type bow a couple of weeks ago.

Stoof · 03-27-2021, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hpdrifter

My chart says 62".

Enjoy. I got a inexpensive 66" target type bow a couple of weeks ago.

I’m still confused. Still a wheel bow guy. But I feel the dark side creeping in.

Bisch · 03-27-2021, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoof

I’m still confused. Still a wheel bow guy. But I feel the dark side creeping in.

You have it all backwards! You are in the dark side now. Come to the light!!!!!

Bisch

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hpdrifter · 03-27-2021, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoof

I’m still confused. Still a wheel bow guy. But I feel the dark side creeping in.

Dark side? Light? whatever, I hear ya. I stopped bowhunting in early 2000's. Won't go into the reasons..... A few years ago I got the itch to go bowhunt again and broke down and bought a Mission Riot. I shot it some, but the itch subsided and I never hunted with it.

The itch returned and I'm now 67 with a almost 20 year layoff. Used to shoot 55-58 lb longbows and recurves. They may as well be 150 lbs now, so I ordered a 28lb 66" target type bow to start flinging arrows again. 25" riser with short limbs. Have a short draw so it's like 25 lbs.
Good luck on entering the "shining".

Stoof · 03-28-2021, 06:11 PM

Question on set up. No positive tiller on these bows really? Equal from the top and and bottom the fiddle from there?

hpdrifter · 03-28-2021, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoof

Question on set up. No positive tiller on these bows really? Equal from the top and and bottom the fiddle from there?

they are like any other bow, they will need tiller for your style of shooting: normal is a little positive tiller.

From what I've read, that is one of the pro's of ilf, people can dial in the tiller required.

Cenizo · 03-29-2021, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoof

Question on set up. No positive tiller on these bows really? Equal from the top and and bottom the fiddle from there?

Tiller depends on whether you're shooting split finger, 3-under, or crawling. Split shooters like positive tiller, even tiller for 3-under, and negative tiller for anything more than a short crawl.

03-26-2021, 09:29 AM	#1
Stoof Pope & Young Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wimberley Hunt In: Will work for hunts.	Aluminum ILF recurves, Talk some sense into me. I made the mistake of shooting a Satori a while back and it has haunted me ever since. I really like the feel of the more slender grip and overall feel compared to wooden risers. I am also on a budget at least a cash in hand budget. The issue I am having is the amount of 17-19" risers out there. Tons of Chinese stuff with prices all over the place. I am looking at risers and limbs for the build myself route. I have also been looking at the Samick Discovery and the Win and Win Black Elk. Both of these bows are hard to find in stock with the foam limbs. I have found a few Samicks with wood core limbs (50#) but It looks like they require some work to build up a strike plate for shelf shooting. Is it possible to build up a bow for $400? And can any of y'all steer me in the right direction? Or should I just eat a little CC debt and get a Satori? Thanks!

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03-26-2021, 11:23 AM	#2
jmark100 Ten Point Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fort Worth Texas	EXE risers are well made. I have a 25" blizzard and it is a great riser for the price. Mark

03-26-2021, 11:32 AM	#3
Bluedevil Four Point Join Date: Dec 2013	I feel you on the stocking issues. I am waiting to pull the trigger on the W&W Black Wolf. Lancaster says they hope to have more in in 3-weeks.

03-26-2021, 11:42 AM	#4
TXRebel Eight Point Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Texas Hunt In: Searching	If you are just starting out as a new recurve shooter, I would recommend finding a less expensive set up than the Satori. You won't be out as much money if you find out you don't like it. The only problem is being able to try the bow out before purchasing, there are not a lot of brick and mortars that stock trad equipment. You won't know if you like a bow until you've shot it. The aluminum riser shelf can be built up and out in numerous ways. Google, "building up a riser shelf", for some ideas. An OMP Night Ridge can be had for less than $400. I shot one for a year, with a built up shelf. I had no complaints with the bow, I just didn't like the side plate build out, and decided to go with a wood riser, cut closer to center. Don't let me talk you out of the Satori, if that's the bow you want.

03-26-2021, 12:07 PM	#5
Stoof Pope & Young Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wimberley Hunt In: Will work for hunts.	Thanks for the feedback. I have been shooting a Sarrels Ridgecat for a while. I did call Lancaster yesterday about back order times on the Win & Win and they couldn't get me a good timeline. Amazon has risers listed but they are all over the place price wise and there is little info on them to be found online.

03-26-2021, 12:31 PM	#6
TXRebel Eight Point Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Texas Hunt In: Searching	^^^^^^I'm shooting a Ridgecat as well and prefer it over the OMP.^^^^^^

03-26-2021, 01:05 PM	#7
Stoof Pope & Young Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wimberley Hunt In: Will work for hunts.	I just found The OMP Night Ridge in 50# for $279.00 from Bowhunting Outlet. Seemed to good to pass up for the price and the favorable reviews I found online. Thanks for the suggestion TXRebel.

03-26-2021, 01:13 PM	#8
TXRebel Eight Point Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Texas Hunt In: Searching	^^^^^Your Welcome! Hope you like it and I didn't guide you wrong.^^^^^^^

03-27-2021, 05:33 AM	#10
60 Deluxe Ten Point Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Coke County Hunt In: at home	I have a couple of Buffalo risers that I rigged out with carbon foam limbs on the cheap. Less than $400 in both of them. I found the limbs in the FITA classifieds on Archerytalk.com. Like new for $150 to $175. I still want to find an ILF riser so I can spend some more of my money on ILF limbs that come up at bargain prices. I've had the Satori already and did not really care for it. I'm looking hard at the Samick Discovery and just yesterday saw the Farmington Atlas 19" riser at 3Rivers Archery. The Atlas also has an option for the brass weight, if you think that it is necessary. I actually prefer the look of the Atlas over the Discovery.

03-27-2021, 07:54 AM	#11
TradAg02 Ten Point Join Date: Oct 2006	I have a pair of Win&Win Trad tech limbs I’m not shooting. 50# shorts. $100 These are the lower end wood limbs. I also have a pair of foam carbon I’m not shooting. 55# shorts. $400 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

03-27-2021, 09:53 AM	#12
Stoof Pope & Young Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wimberley Hunt In: Will work for hunts.	Bow should be here on Wednesday. 19 inch riser with medium limbs. 60 AMO, which I'm assuming will make it stack up quick. Looking forward to playing around with all the different options available with these kinds of set ups. I'll probably work on getting up to a 62-64 inch length soon.

03-27-2021, 11:59 AM	#13
Briar Friar Pope & Young Join Date: May 2015	Good luck on the setup Stoof.

03-28-2021, 06:11 PM	#18
Stoof Pope & Young Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wimberley Hunt In: Will work for hunts.	Question on set up. No positive tiller on these bows really? Equal from the top and and bottom the fiddle from there?