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#1 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Keller
Hunt In: Cisco, San Juan
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So I have shot the standard 4 bald broad head and they are great .
After adding weight to my arrows and hunting elk I want to try a broad head that would penetrate further . So with that said I have bought 6 they all rattle , yes washer in place put them on 4 different brands of arrows. ST sent me 6 more they are worse than the first 6 I bought . After hearing that warranty will no longer return my messages . That is too bad really . Here is a short video sorry I had to hold phone and shoot video at same time . I would suggest that other do not buy this model https://www.dropbox.com/s/d2y682k2bs..._3056.MOV?dl=0 |
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#2 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: TERRELL, TX
Hunt In: WHERE EVER I CAN
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I realize it isn't right but i bet a little bow wax in the right places would get them quite enough to use.
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#3 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Keller
Hunt In: Cisco, San Juan
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I did try that the blades are way too loose for that , I was able to get 3 of them to stop rattling by wrapping a small piece of Teflon tape around the ferrule and then slide the washer down and tighten it up .
But the point is this should NOT be an issue , this is nothing more than pure lack of QC plain and simple |
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#4 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Arlington
Hunt In: Any were i can
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Are the blades to short? Or what happens if you put a second feral under it just out of curiosity. Wonder if there not seating far enough into your insert
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#5 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: TERRELL, TX
Hunt In: WHERE EVER I CAN
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You are right, it shouldn't happen.
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#6 |
Eight Point
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Fort Worth
Hunt In: LBJ, Grapevine and Lake Meredith Nat. Rec.
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Sometimes they have a radius on the backside of the ferrule >>>>>> The leading edge of the washer hits this radius and never allows the face of the washer to press against the blades.
The washers have a little stamping curve to them like this: ) Put the curve of the washer towards the blades |\ .................................................. ............... |/ Picture with text: ) |\ >>>> ) |/ |
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#7 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Fair Oaks
Hunt In: Maverick County
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I had a similar issue and was able to fix it by making sure I had the broad heads screwed in as far as possible.
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#8 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Keller
Hunt In: Cisco, San Juan
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I machine and build engine for a living I have tried both ways on the washer trust me they are tight .
Too be clear not looking for a fix Its a machine process they are not following correctly |
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#9 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: DFW
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I like mine, but I did get a bad batch once. A little rattle and galled threads.
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#10 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montgomery
Hunt In: Rocky Mountains, Africa
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get some RMS cutthroats and be done with it.
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#11 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lindale
Hunt In: Behind the house and public in Texas; Kansas Unit 5
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That is a shame
Think a rubber o-ring between the washer and back of blades would let you salvage them to shoot? Company was sold if I remember correctly and I guess the new owners are cutting corners to make more $$$$ |
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#12 |
Six Point
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Oak Point
Hunt In: NTX
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weird, ive shot VT's for 3 years now and havent had that issue a single time. Wonder if they just made a bad batch
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#13 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Houston
Hunt In: Camo (Leon County) - Knifemaker<><
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I’ve like and have shot the standard st for years with no problems however I am having the same problem you described with the last package I bought. The blades are slightly loose and rattle. Major bummer.
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#14 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Colorado
Hunt In: CO and Texas when I can
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We have experienced the same thing, gave up on slick tricks and shoot other heads now. The new company does not have the quality control the old owner had. And they don't care. There is a rep on here I believe, wonder why he hasn't chimed in.
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#15 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Colorado
Hunt In: CO and Texas when I can
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I believe it would have to be a lot of bad batches, it's that there quality control has gone down the toilet, and they aren't going to do any thing about it, it looks like. Because we had this same thing happen a few years ago, and many people are still having the problem, and thinking it's just a bad batch. I don't think so. We have seen blades brake on some of the newer heads also, they used to be our go to head, but we gave up on them ( sold all the packages I had of them).
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#16 |
Four Point
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Henderson, Tx
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I just bought some viper tricks. No problems with tight fit
Or Blade movement , , great flight. Love them. Been shooting a bow 30 years. there are only a handful of broadheads on the market that do not do a ton of wind planing. |
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#17 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Keller
Hunt In: Cisco, San Juan
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Well I gave up leaving messages with the tech warranty guy. I have 12 heads that rattle , that simple . I plan switch to another brand , Viper trick SS 100 is what I am having issues with . I have 4 or so regular ST that do not rattle that I can still use I will get through this season but will be looking else where next year for sure
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#18 | ||
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Houston
Hunt In: Camo (Leon County) - Knifemaker<><
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#19 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Texas
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Dang. Just bought two new packs of viper tricks. Haven’t taken them out of the package yet. Guess I’ll hope for the best.
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#20 |
Ten Point
![]() Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Pearland
Hunt In: Warren, Tx
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Will you be selling them?
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#21 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Dang. Just got some 125s and no rattle? I've heard the same about cutting cost
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#22 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Keller
Hunt In: Cisco, San Juan
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#23 | |
Ten Point
![]() Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Pearland
Hunt In: Warren, Tx
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That was going to be my plan if you were going to get rid of them. Annoying to have to rig it up but glad you got it worked out. Keep a hot glue stick and a lighter in you bag and you can makeshift it in the field if necessary. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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#24 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Keller
Hunt In: Cisco, San Juan
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yes I could if I had to I guess but we all know what the real point of this post is about . For the cost of these broad heads this is not what you should have to deal with
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#25 |
Nubbin' Buck
Join Date: Jan 2021
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I had a similar problem, and I was able to fix it by making sure the wide heads were screwed in as deep as possible.
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#26 |
Nubbin' Buck
Join Date: Feb 2021
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I had a problem of this kind. I was able to solve it by making sure that the wide heads were screwed in as deep as possible. But if it doesn't work, you'd better throw it in the trash. When I was renovating, they brought me some tile. As it turned out, it was already in a damaged state. But I never got my money back for it. Yes, and a lot of leftover building materials. I rented containers from https://www.186needabin.com/disposal-bins/, I often order from them. They come when I need them and leave when I say. Very convenient, may be useful to you too.
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#27 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Quitman, Tx.
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When “the outdoor Group” buys a company.... quality begins to go down. I love the heads, but have to sharpen all of them I’ve bought in last few years
Outdoor Group SUCKS! |
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#28 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: lakeway
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I killed an elk w the viper trick 100gr
Great head he was dead within 20 steps of impact |
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#29 |
Four Point
![]() Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Orange, TX
Hunt In: Newton, Orange, Sabine Co
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Hoping the few packs i picked up last year won't give me these issues
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