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Old 03-14-2021, 04:50 PM   #1
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Anchor point vs draw length. The first can affect the second.

My question is, if you could change your anchor point and increase your effective accuracy distance from say 17 yards to 25 yards (for hunting purposes) but it cost you an inch of an already relatively short draw length, would it be worth the trade off to you and why?

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Old 03-14-2021, 05:22 PM   #2
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8 yards is a helluva jump one inch is about 3.5 pounds so just get a heavier bow


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Old 03-14-2021, 05:32 PM   #3
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8 yards is a helluva jump one inch is about 3.5 pounds so just get a heavier bow


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I'm already shooting as much as I feel I can control my shot with especially over a normal shooting session. Say 40 or 50 arrows.
But just experimenting some the last couple of afternoons I feel like I could figure out the gap thing and make it work. But it is an inch or so less. Putting me just over 25.5". But, I see the benefits being positive for hunting and 3D. I just wonder how many think that 8 yards is critical in their shooting needs.

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Old 03-14-2021, 06:08 PM   #4
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I'm just at the spot where when I shoot at 15 yards I can shoot respectable groups. 17 I can still feel confident on a pig.
But a 22 yard shot, while I have a real good chance of marking an 8, the chances of a 10 drop way off and there's no way I'd take the shot on game even though the bows I shoot have deliver enough energy to be ethical.
Guess I need to reread that sticky.

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Old 03-14-2021, 06:08 PM   #5
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Is the new anchor point consistent/repeatable? Does it still allow for good form?


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Old 03-14-2021, 07:05 PM   #6
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I think I could make it that way. Honestly I think I will get a lower poundage bow to work on it because I think it can work. But it's gonna take work.

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Most importantly it clears my nose.

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Old 03-14-2021, 08:17 PM   #8
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For hunting (for me) 25yds is the same as 2500yds. There is no way Iím taking a 25yd shot on a critter, with the exception to the rule being an elk size or bigger critter, and me being practiced up and confident in that scenario.

I canít remember the last critter I have shot at 20yds!

For 3D, that 8yds would make a heck of a big difference, and the shot DL has no consequence!

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Old 03-14-2021, 08:23 PM   #9
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17 yards was always my comfort zone. I'd stretch to 20 or 21 on deer sized targets.

Went elk hunting a couple of times and I had a 24-25 yard limit on my shot acceptance. Wouldn't you know it, a nice 6x6 hung up at about 30 yards. Went home empty handed, but happy.

I'd say if you can increase you "confidence" range, it'd be worth it. You could lose a couple of lbs of draw force thus a little cast, but another bow or limbs could recover that.

My only concern is such a short draw never gets near the potential of a set of limbs. I have a very short draw, or did. Of course, it's always nice to say, "I shoot a 60 lb longbow. When actually its about 54/55.

When I was building my own, I always wanted to experiment for short draw limb design.
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Old 03-15-2021, 05:15 AM   #10
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You short draw length guys just need to get a bow of the proper length so that you can utilize the full potential of the bow limbs. That may mean a 56" or 58" bow.

I have found that I do better with a slightly shorter anchor point, but old habits die hard and I can't do it consistently. I think at some point a guy has to stop experimenting and just focus on doing what comes naturally. For me, that is pulling the bow back to that old familiar anchor point time after time, utilizing muscle memory for that aspect of the shot sequence. I have plenty of other issues to deal with that I have to think about.

It is heartening to see that I'm in good company with a seventeen yard comfort zone. Mine was dictated by my eyes not being able to "pick a spot" beyond that distance. I could buy the best equipment fitted perfectly to me, use a textbook form, and still not be able to extend my range because of my physical limitations.
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Old 03-15-2021, 08:09 AM   #11
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I personally find that alignment lends way more to my accuracy than a specific anchor point. So I let my skeletal structure dictate where my hand sits on my face. In the end, I have to cant the bow over a bit to get the arrow under my eye, and I can't shoot a true gap off the arrow point. So I learned to gap off the riser of the bow instead. It's not as precise, but you learn quickly to quarter up the sight window and one of those imaginary lines will be dang close to correct at 20 yards.
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Old 03-15-2021, 09:18 AM   #12
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You short draw length guys just need to get a bow of the proper length so that you can utilize the full potential of the bow limbs. That may mean a 56" or 58" bow.
How about a 52" Kodiak Magnum??? Shot one for years.

Still 2" short of normal 28" draw, poundage drops off and the limbs don't reach full potential.

Maybe a bit more efficient, but still not specifically designed for shorter draw.
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Old 03-15-2021, 09:21 AM   #13
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You short draw length guys just need to get a bow of the proper length so that you can utilize the full potential of the bow limbs. That may mean a 56" or 58" bow.

I have found that I do better with a slightly shorter anchor point, but old habits die hard and I can't do it consistently. I think at some point a guy has to stop experimenting and just focus on doing what comes naturally. For me, that is pulling the bow back to that old familiar anchor point time after time, utilizing muscle memory for that aspect of the shot sequence. I have plenty of other issues to deal with that I have to think about.

It is heartening to see that I'm in good company with a seventeen yard comfort zone. Mine was dictated by my eyes not being able to "pick a spot" beyond that distance. I could buy the best equipment fitted perfectly to me, use a textbook form, and still not be able to extend my range because of my physical limitations.
I have two 58" and two 60" bows. The eye/distance/ spot focus is something I can relate to as well.
I'm not sure if it is necessarily just poor vision but I've noticed it. Even up closer when som of the FSC calls are just lines or dots on paper. I can't see them so it is just shooting at a blank page.

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Old 03-15-2021, 09:40 AM   #14
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I'll answer your question this way:

I can draw & anchor well at 32" without any trouble, but my most solid anchor, and best accuracy is at 29.5", so my preferred draw length is 29.5".

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Old 03-15-2021, 06:06 PM   #15
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Now it's a matter of shopping.

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Old 03-15-2021, 06:50 PM   #16
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How about a 52" Kodiak Magnum??? Shot one for years.

Still 2" short of normal 28" draw, poundage drops off and the limbs don't reach full potential.

Maybe a bit more efficient, but still not specifically designed for shorter draw.
I shot one for years as well. They are hard for me to shoot enough to get good with at my draw length. In your situation, either get a bow five pounds heavier or go with something that can be tailor built to your draw length. Border comes to mind. Another option is a riser with ILF limb fitment. There are now a few 17" ILF risers intended for hunting. Couple one of those with some short or extra short limbs and I'm sure that you can come up with a bow that excels at 26". I'm presently playing with carbon foam limbs and loving the smoothness and cast.

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Old 03-15-2021, 08:31 PM   #17
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There are now a few 17" ILF risers intended for hunting. Couple one of those with some short or extra short limbs and I'm sure that you can come up with a bow that excels at 26".
Already on order.

Of course, I'm just now getting back into a recurve. Haven't shot much of anything the last 10-12 years. I used to shoot longbow at 58#. The long layoff and being 67 now, kinda puts a stop to using all my old equipment... way too heavy.

If I really, really get back into it, I'll experiment with some limb designs that I myself can make.
Was on the verge of doing so when I stopped bow hunting.
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