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Old 06-10-2010, 10:15 AM   #1
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Cheez's post about German got me to thinking a bit. Where I grew up, there was still a good bit of Czech speaking going on. It was mostly by the old timers, but my father (who is 58) speaks it fluently, but he's about the last generation that does (Note: I don't consider my dad an old timer). Before my great grandfather died (at the ripe old agae of 102), my dad and great grandfather would talk entirely in Czech (it was his first language, and he felt most comfortable talking in Czech). Even though I did not understand the vast majority of it, it was pretty **** neat to listen to it.

Any of you folks speak Czech or recall hearing it a good bit growing up?
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:19 AM   #2
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We need to plan a trip to our homeland. I have a lot of family there. Before my grandpa died he made several trips.
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Not Czech, but I used to get a kick out listening to my Grandfather and his cousins speaking French. I've actually purchased several books and CD's trying to learn the language myself. I always thought it would be cool to be able to shoot the bull with my "Pop" in French.
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My great grandmother and father (on my mom's side) spoke fluent Czech.
My grannie, from that side, could carry on a conversation with them. After they both died, she used it less and less.
I haven't heard her speak Czech in at least 20 years.

It's a dieing art.

Oh, that same great grandpa, I called him MoreMore (he gave me a shot of Jack Daniels when I was about 3, and I asked for more ... more; it stuck) played the acordian in a polka band. Listening to them play, in his garage wasn't very cool back then, but I'd give anything to hear them again.
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I had an aunt that was Czech. Her mother also lived with my aunt and uncle. When we would go visit it was all her mother could speak. Her mother also only cooked on a wood stove. She refused to use the gas stove in the kitchen and durn could that woman cook! They lived a couple of miles from us in S. Dallas.
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:24 AM   #7
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My wife grew up in West, her Grandparents speak Czech fluently ,I have picked up a little along the way, But some of still makes no sense or maybe hey are making fun of me .My wife and I do enjoy a good polka band and she is always listening to the polka show on the radio in Rockdale and Taylor.
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:25 AM   #8
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Growing up ,y great grandmother spoke Italian and when she would get mad at me she would forget and slip into it at time's. I cant remember the phrase she would call me but translated it meant fart's for brains.
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My wife's family currently resides in a small Czech town just outside the Polish border. We go there every other year for Christmas. Small town and we have a great time. Family, friends, great times! Did I mention the beer? Added bonus - get to go Russian Boar hunting!

We send our kids over there for summer camp so they can learn the language. Unfortunately, the Czech kids all want to practice their english with my kids, so my kids learn very little Czech.
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:25 AM   #10
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My grandmother learned to speak english in school when she was 5yrs old. She would always tell us storys in czech and english my parents speak just enough to get get by on and I know all the bad words
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:31 AM   #11
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I lived in East Bernard for about 8 years. I learned a little...

"GDAGKI"

That's the key to the garage door!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:41 AM   #12
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My mother began life with Czech as her only language. Didn't learn English until she went to school. (dang rich immigrants! )

Anybody got a good Texas hookup for jaternice and jelitha?

Can still get some out of Chicago but it's muy expensive.

BTW De me pivo! (And I KNOW I spelled that wrong!) on edit: Dej mi pivo!!!
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my grandparents speak it fluently. i know a few words. when i was in high school i took a czech class. it was one of those things that if you don't use it you forget a lot. i looked at some translation books recently and i remember a few words. for some reason some of the words i should not use seem to stick better than others. the town i live near just had their National Polka Festival.
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:50 AM   #14
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my mothers family in Nada,TX spoke fluent czech, and my mom still does, but she has no one left to speak it too.
kinda like alan, i know the bad words and PIVO
wish i would have tried tolearn alittle when i was younger
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Vie gates! German is still spoke around our campfire in Fredericksburg. Landowner and a couple of our leasees.


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Ive always expected more people here to know what my Handle is,
since is pure Czech
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My wife is Czech, but I probably speak more of it than she does... Her dad is still pretty good at the language, but it's not used that much around West as it once was...
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:07 AM   #18
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We need to plan a trip to our homeland. I have a lot of family there. Before my grandpa died he made several trips.
Amen to that. My wife has been to Prague for work . . .was back on 1998. She claims it is the most beautiful city she's ever been to. My dad was there in the military . . . .he said it reminded him of how it was in the US growing up . . . like it was 20 years behind, but familiar. I mean to go back . . .maybe when my pending man child can travel . . .gonna take dad with me so he can translate.


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If you want some jaternice, we can make it happen. We make it every winter.
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:13 AM   #19
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Let's take a trip. 1st annual TBH CZECH OUT "ZADNE PIVO JE BEZPECNY!" (NO BEER IS SAFE!) had to call grandma for everything but the pivo part. Only problem is we can't go around callin each other bohemians around there. We might get jumped...

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That made me laugh Kulhanek! Not a bad idea . . . . may have to talk to Middleton and see if we can make it a sanctioned event.
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:34 AM   #22
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My great grandmother came over with her family when she was young and was completely fluent. My grandfather stills knows quite a bit but has lost some over the years. He tries to teach me but without using it on a regular basis you forget a lot of it. My dad tells stories of my great grandmother fixing kolaches and pull-aparts every Sunday for them when they visited.
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:35 AM   #23
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I think it could be a pretty cool family trip for everyone. Simek, your Dad will be the official TBH traslator! My old man and I have been wanting to go and see our family as I'm sure y'all would like to see yours. This would be the ultimate road trip!!!
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My mothers maiden name was Trpak and my dad is Patak. My mother who is 80 is still alive as well as her two sisters that speak fluent czech. I take care of her on Friday and she still will talk czech and tell me things in the czech I ask her. Funny you started this thread, yesterday I just made a czech dish (Kobrava Mocka (spelling may be wrong).. it is with potatoes and dill gravy.. i had some fresh dill in the garden and decided to use it.. my grandparents and my mom always then boiled eggs to go with it to make it go further.. break up a few eggs, put the soup over it and grab a few slices of homemade bread.. my mother still makes homemade bread to this day... thanks for starting this thread.. my husband and I need to make the jaternice .... we do everything else in our smokehouse that our czech grandparents taught us.. we even have his grandfather's smokehouse.. he left that to Steve in his will... that was cool...we also still have a czech and polka radio show here in Ellis on every sunday hosted by Johnny Krajca....
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Let's take a trip. 1st annual TBH CZECH OUT "ZADNE PIVO JE BEZPECNY!" (NO BEER IS SAFE!) had to call grandma for everything but the pivo part. Only problem is we can't go around callin each other bohemians around there. We might get jumped...

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I have always been told we are Czech not bohemians
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Old 06-10-2010, 11:46 AM   #26
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Regarding Czech music. . . . . growing up in eastern Williamson county, we have a family with the last name of Vrazel. Their kin started a pretty popular polka band . . . .the Vrazel Polka Band. Back in the day, they used to play at a place about a half mile from where my folks live . . .Moravian Hall in Corn Hill. My dad said that when they first started playing it was like when Led Zepelin released their first album in 1969 . . .mass hysteria. Pretty funny stuff . . . .
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Let's take a trip. 1st annual TBH CZECH OUT "ZADNE PIVO JE BEZPECNY!" (NO BEER IS SAFE!) had to call grandma for everything but the pivo part. Only problem is we can't go around callin each other bohemians around there. We might get jumped...

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Did I hear mention of pivo? Now you're speakin MY language! Dad's side of the family speaks a mixture of German and Czech, but I haven't picked up very much.
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We are, but since bohemians were the trashy gypsies of the Czech culture, it's kinda like any other race using a derogatory term to BS one another.
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My mother began life with Czech as her only language. Didn't learn English until she went to school. (dang rich immigrants! )

Anybody got a good Texas hookup for jaternice and jelitha?

Can still get some out of Chicago but it's muy expensive.

BTW De me pivo! (And I KNOW I spelled that wrong!) on edit: Dej mi pivo!!!
Yes I want a beer
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Old 06-10-2010, 12:56 PM   #30
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Heard a bunch growing up. The only way grandma Luchak (Victorin) knew the rosary was in czech. When I was at at young age my mothers parents (Petrash /Macha) spoke english in such a thick accent i thought they did not know english.Parents used to speak. I know a handful of words... Still have tons of relatives in Hungerford, Wallis, East Bernard, Wharton, etc.

i wish I knew more, It is a dying language in the US. At my wedding 2 years ago I played (CD) some Al Grebnic music (czech vocals etc) because I like it and for my aunts and uncles who were in attendance.
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Old 06-10-2010, 01:10 PM   #31
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Wait......Pivos and Czech food...........I'm IN!
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In our family, it still lives. While my mother doesn't speak it fluently anymore, her sister and most of my Shiner relatives (all age brackets) still can. This is because they are around others that contine to converse or can converse still.

Me - I know a few dirty words!

My relatives too, once had a polka band in Shiner area. Uncle Leon was lead singer and accordion player. Twin brothers played sax and cornet, while another played drums. Only non family member was tuba player and running joke as a kid was that was going to be my job one day. Many fond memories watching them play in Shiner area SPSJT or KC functions
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Its a shame us younger generations dont know more czech. When grandparents came to America they were forced to speak English and so it faded away. They were put down if they didnt know English. Why dont we do the same to all these Mexicans and others in America these days? Now we have to cater to them and give them everything and feel sorry for them.
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My Grandfather spoke fluent Czech.
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Regarding Czech music. . . . . growing up in eastern Williamson county, we have a family with the last name of Vrazel. Their kin started a pretty popular polka band . . . .the Vrazel Polka Band. Back in the day, they used to play at a place about a half mile from where my folks live . . .Moravian Hall in Corn Hill. My dad said that when they first started playing it was like when Led Zepelin released their first album in 1969 . . .mass hysteria. Pretty funny stuff . . . .
The Vrazel's were one of the bands I learned to dance to at Vrazel's Ballroom in Danbury.

They played my inlaws wedding and then thier 50th anniversary in 98.
My in-laws made a polka cruise or polka fest anytime the Vrazel's were involved. The band finally retired a couple of years ago.
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Its a shame us younger generations dont know more czech. When grandparents came to America they were forced to speak English and so it faded away. They were put down if they didnt know English. Why dont we do the same to all these Mexicans and others in America these days? Now we have to cater to them and give them everything and feel sorry for them.
It is a shame that folks were ridiculed for speaking their native tongue. Most ethnic stereotyping/racism stems from ignorance. By the way . . .forgot to mention that I'm also half Mexican.
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I know a Darrell Vrazel, from Shulenberg...
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Glad you started this thread. Since joining TBH I've always detected a strong Czech presence and personally think it's cool. I'm not really sure what my true heritage is (German probably) but am fascinated by the Czech culture. We always make it a point to go to West Fest each year and try to attend the polka festival in Ennis as well. On that note, what other events/festivals are there that celebrate Czech or German themes?
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My parents both spoke Czech at home when they wanted to speak about something at dinner and not have the kids understand what they were saying. My Grandparents were born there, so they spoke it fluently.

The Dentist I see has a dental hygienist who is a US citizen, but immigrated with her husband from Slovakia. She's cute and I have to tell you lying there in the chair, having her cleaning my teeth, with an accent that reminds me of my Grandmothers is a real treat! Her father who still lives in Slovakia is a hunter, and hunts red stag and wolves in the mountains on the northern border.

One last random thought. When I was about 5 years old, I was with my family at a Sokol camp in Connecticut. One of the other Czech Dad's (they were all sitting around drinking beer) said it's a shame how their kids can't speak Czech. I proudly said, "I can".

They reminded me 20 years later as guests at my wedding about it, and how I let out the longest string of Czech vulgarities and insults, obviously learned from my Dad in moments of weakness.

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It's kind of a shame that we didn't keep the old languages, it is, after all, part of our individual heritage.
I grew up with Italian grandparents and remember them speaking.
Many years later, I taught myself to speak the language.
Like the saying goes, "use it or lose it." And now my Italian is going the way of my Vietnamese and Japanese which wasn't that great to start with.
Guess we're all to busy these days.
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Glad you started this thread. Since joining TBH I've always detected a strong Czech presence and personally think it's cool. I'm not really sure what my true heritage is (German probably) but am fascinated by the Czech culture. We always make it a point to go to West Fest each year and try to attend the polka festival in Ennis as well. On that note, what other events/festivals are there that celebrate Czech or German themes?
Used to be one in Hallettsville but I can't say if it's still going or not..
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:00 PM   #42
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My maiden name is Janik...

Grandmother still speaks it, my Dad understands it, but doesn't speak it...


I remember being in my grandmothers kitchen in Crosby when I was younger while she was cooking and listening to the Czech radio station.

I too wish it would have been passed down!!
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I know a few sayings and 50% of those are bad!
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I heard it growing up from my grandparent's. Their last name is Zurovec and my grandmother's maiden name is Vinklarek. I loved to be around their siblings and other relatives at family reunion's. Sure wished I would've learned more of the language. I still have relatives living in the Schulenburg, Flatonia, and Cistern areas.
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I heard it growing up from my grandparent's. Their last name is Zurovec and my grandmother's maiden name is Vinklarek. I loved to be around their siblings and other relatives at family reunion's. Sure wished I would've learned more of the language. I still have relatives living in the Schulenburg, Flatonia, and Cistern areas.
I do a lot of fishing with Mark Vinklarek. He is from the big town of Cistern
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wish i had a nickle for every beer i had in moravian hall
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My grandparents on my fathers side all spoke Czech. My father still does a lot of the time. He still lives in Ennis and has a lot of friends in the area that commonly speak Czech as well. I got a new pup about this time last year and he decided that she should speak Czech too. So,, most of her commands are in Czech, with some English and a couple of Spanish words too so I can say she is trilingual.
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Danimal, what is your father's last name.. i live in Ennis..
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Originally Posted by simek View Post
Regarding Czech music. . . . . growing up in eastern Williamson county, we have a family with the last name of Vrazel. Their kin started a pretty popular polka band . . . .the Vrazel Polka Band. Back in the day, they used to play at a place about a half mile from where my folks live . . .Moravian Hall in Corn Hill. My dad said that when they first started playing it was like when Led Zepelin released their first album in 1969 . . .mass hysteria. Pretty funny stuff . . . .
IMO, they were by far the best polka band around, or at least the best that i have ever heard. We used to go see them all the time at the East Bernard Kolache Fest. What a blast! It was really ashame when they retired but man they were good. I might be wrong on this and ill have to check for sure but i think they all lived in Buckholts Texas and still do. I will actuall be up there this weekend for a family reunion. All my mothers side of the family is from there. Our own BubbaBowhunter lives there too!

Jak se Mas!!!!
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