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Old 06-04-2019, 08:16 PM   #1
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Default Please contact your senators to oppose the the new ATF nomination:

This guy is no friend it appears...gonna watch this one close & want to see where NRA stands. Please pass this along to your friends in other states.

Trump is going to lose wide spread support from gun owners if he doesn't correct his stance.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...-happy-ending/

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Old 06-04-2019, 08:29 PM   #2
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Done. This is upsetting.
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Old 06-04-2019, 08:30 PM   #3
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Old 06-04-2019, 09:02 PM   #4
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Old 06-04-2019, 09:49 PM   #9
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Old 06-05-2019, 10:34 AM   #12
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Old 06-05-2019, 10:43 AM   #13
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Done.

Maybe this will help spur the NRA to focus on something more important than LaPierre's wardrobe.

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Old 06-05-2019, 10:48 AM   #14
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:59 AM   #16
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Old 06-05-2019, 12:08 PM   #17
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Old 06-05-2019, 12:29 PM   #18
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Trump is going to lose wide spread support from gun owners if he doesn't correct his stance.
Sadly I don't think that's the case... Trump has been consistently poor on guns to straight up anti-gun the whole time and "our side" hasn't seem to care.

He just publicly stated that he wants to ban silencers... ugh
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Old 06-05-2019, 12:48 PM   #19
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Sadly I don't think that's the case... Trump has been consistently poor on guns to straight up anti-gun the whole time and "our side" hasn't seem to care.



He just publicly stated that he wants to ban silencers... ugh


Thatís not what I heard him say.


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Old 06-05-2019, 12:53 PM   #20
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Thatís not what I heard him say.


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We know what he means. Heís trying to impress his democrat friends.



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Old 06-05-2019, 01:08 PM   #21
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Old 06-05-2019, 01:13 PM   #22
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who cares? ATF is a crooked organization/branch regardless.
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Old 06-05-2019, 03:24 PM   #26
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this article was very uninformative. not saying he's the right guy for the job but hope that it isn't based on this one site.
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Old 06-05-2019, 04:15 PM   #27
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Sadly I don't think that's the case... Trump has been consistently poor on guns to straight up anti-gun the whole time and "our side" hasn't seem to care.

He just publicly stated that he wants to ban silencers... ugh
The waters are still a little muddy to me on that front & I'm going to be hopefully optimistic as I stated in another thread, there was some stated support for the Hearing Protection Act in the past within the admin & the NRA has been pro suppressor with their surge in the shooting sports & hunting applications & they have his ear to some degree. Heck, I would be willing to bet the Trump boys are all too well familiar with them seeing how much they enjoy hunting.

If anyone hears more on this ATF nominee, please pass it along...I ran across it on a shooting forum & the thread has since been deleted for some reason. Thanks!!
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Old 06-05-2019, 05:56 PM   #28
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I believe Trump is a friend of the NRA, and the NRA is not much of a friend of the 2nd Amendment. They show up to support weak watered down bills in the Texas Legislature. GOA and Texas Gun Rights seem to be the ones leading the fight for Constitutional Carry and other true 2nd Amendment rights. I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump go after suppressors after the next election. Reagan wasn't much different. They make some great 2A quotes, but their quotes don't tend to reflect what they do.
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Old 06-05-2019, 05:59 PM   #29
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Jr better get in his ear real quick

Let me put the tin foil on real quick. Trump wants to tighten up gun laws because once he's done bending the US over folks are gonna be mad at him
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Old 06-05-2019, 06:17 PM   #30
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Here's the vid with Morgan...worth a listen:


https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...g-suppressors/
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Old 06-05-2019, 06:34 PM   #31
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I believe Trump is a friend of the NRA, and the NRA is not much of a friend of the 2nd Amendment. They show up to support weak watered down bills in the Texas Legislature. GOA and Texas Gun Rights seem to be the ones leading the fight for Constitutional Carry and other true 2nd Amendment rights. I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump go after suppressors after the next election. Reagan wasn't much different. They make some great 2A quotes, but their quotes don't tend to reflect what they do.
NRA is way too political & they do throw the baby out with the bathwater, but played a major roll with the DC & Chicago rulings that are now precedent. I cannot state how much influence & $$$$ they spent on these two battles. If anyone is going to spend their $$$ for the fight then send it only to NRA-ILA branch & of course GOA.

I would be willing to wager Trump is going to walk back any anti-suppressor chatter if the conversation even continues...it's my hope that he is uneducated & ignorant on them & once he has all the 411 that they are a non issue in regards to public safety. The bump-stock deal was beyond stupid & glad to see it being fought in the courts. Personally, I think they are worthless & really don't care for them one way or another in regards to their availability but it's the principal & sad they made it a scapegoat due to vegas. It's just wrong to turn a piece of plastic into an automatic firearm overnight making all owners felons & hope we win.

Anyway, my main concern lies with finding the truth behind this ATF nomination & was hoping to get some good followup on that now deleted thread & hope more 411 surfaces. I understand many do not care for ATF in general, but all the inspecting agents I deal with being an FFL have simply been fantastic. Remember, it was a low tier ATF agent that blew up the Fast & Furious scandal with the top shelf guys at that time being the problem along with the Obama admin. Sorta like what is happening within the FBI today. The rank & file guys are for most part I assume to be solid patriots & just the brass that is going to give the org any bad name/rap.

Hoping more 411 comes out about this nomination & certainly wasn't my intent to bad mouth him inaccurately...we most certainly do not need the head to have genuine feelings as are being reported. Again, any new info that you guys run across & his pending appointment would be appreciated.

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Old 06-05-2019, 09:23 PM   #32
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Doesn't make sense for him to restrict means when he's opening up the where

http://www.fox26houston.com/news/tru...8snK2MX1ssHqzQ
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