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Old 01-12-2020, 03:38 PM   #1
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Saw this morning on Fox news that the FBI admitted illegally using the FISA court to spy on Trump and Associates during and after the campaign. Says they are sorry. Personally I would like to see some heads roll!
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Old 01-12-2020, 04:05 PM   #2
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If found guilty, they should pay the penalty just like anyone else. And terminated!
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Old 01-12-2020, 04:20 PM   #3
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Of course. And anyone who thinks this is the first time is naive.


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Old 01-12-2020, 04:29 PM   #4
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It isnt the first time that the Democrats have done this it's just the first time that they got caught.

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Old 01-12-2020, 04:53 PM   #5
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You're naive if you think anything is going to be done about it OR that anyone gets prosecuted for it.
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Old 01-12-2020, 05:02 PM   #6
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You're naive if you think anything is going to be done about it OR that anyone gets prosecuted for it.


Yup. Bureaucracy has the power. Not the President, Congress, Republicans, Democrats, you or me.


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Old 01-12-2020, 05:25 PM   #7
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Yeah, Prolly will go just like Hillary's E-mail scandal.
Never said I expected it, Just would like to see justice done. For once!
I expect the Bidens will get investigated too, Get caught and slapped on the wrist!

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it's a sad state of affairs when we have a dual justice system in this country.

we only have ourselves to blame.
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Old 01-12-2020, 07:03 PM   #9
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FISA appoints anti trump dude to look into it
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Old 01-12-2020, 07:06 PM   #10
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I still donít understand how something like the FISA court even exists in the USA. Itís the perfect setup for repeated abuse that no one will ever hear about. Almost like that was the intention all along.


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Saw this morning on Fox news that the FBI admitted illegally using the FISA court to spy on Trump and Associates during and after the campaign. Says they are sorry. Personally I would like to see some heads roll!
Heads roll? LOL That would 100% for sure happen if Trump or anyone close to him simply tried to spy on any Democrat.

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Yeah, Prolly will go just like Hillary's E-mail scandal.
Never said I expected it, Just would like to see justice done. For once!
I expect the Bidens will get investigated too, Get caught and slapped on the wrist!
Funny how we all know Biden will not be POTUS. They are simply keeping him the top runner to keep this impeachment BS in the spotlight.
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Old 01-12-2020, 08:30 PM   #12
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Didn't a President get impeached for spying on the other party???

Maybe it's not as big of a deal now.
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Old 01-12-2020, 11:42 PM   #13
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I still don’t understand how something like the FISA court even exists in the USA. It’s the perfect setup for repeated abuse that no one will ever hear about. Almost like that was the intention all along.


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FISA court established under the presumption we would always have integrity Throughout the judicial system. HA! Out the window!
End the FISA Courts
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Old 01-13-2020, 12:18 AM   #14
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Fruit of the poisonous tree should apply here, and everything that came as a result should be nullified.
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Saw this morning on Fox news that the FBI admitted illegally using the FISA court to spy on Trump and Associates during and after the campaign. Says they are sorry. Personally I would like to see some heads roll!
What?? You mean a "conspiracy"???? I thought the brain trust around here had established that there is no such a thing.... LMAO!!!!!!
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Old 01-13-2020, 04:43 AM   #16
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What?? You mean a "conspiracy"???? I thought the brain trust around here had established that there is no such a thing.... LMAO!!!!!!
Agreed 100%! Peeps just need to wake up to reality. The two party political system and all politicians can't be trusted. "Get a rope" comes to mind.

Everyone they appoint is going to try and scam/rig the system for benefit their party. This includes peeps at the Justice dept and any where else politics is involved.
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Old 01-13-2020, 06:49 AM   #17
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Didn't a President get impeached for spying on the other party???

Maybe it's not as big of a deal now.
No. He resigned the office before impeachment proceedings began. He knew he would be impeached and removed from office, so he saved everyone the time and money.
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You're naive if you think anything is going to be done about it OR that anyone gets prosecuted for it.
I think it is different this time. The tell tale sign to me that things were different was when they fired Andrew McCabe ONE day...that's right ONE day before he retired. In the past, they would have ridden into the sunset, and nothing done. That firing, told me something was different this time.
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Old 01-13-2020, 07:44 AM   #19
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I think it is different this time. The tell tale sign to me that things were different was when they fired Andrew McCabe ONE day...that's right ONE day before he retired. In the past, they would have ridden into the sunset, and nothing done. That firing, told me something was different this time.

We can only hope!
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Old 01-13-2020, 08:23 AM   #20
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What?? You mean a "conspiracy"???? I thought the brain trust around here had established that there is no such a thing.... LMAO!!!!!!
I'd pay good money to be able to see all those threads where you/we/us were called names for talking conspiracy. So many people just can't handle the truth it seems.

You know how many people would have to be involved? Local LEO, police chief, FBI blah blah blah... At least now there's a chance those people wake up some...
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:57 AM   #21
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No. He resigned the office before impeachment proceedings began. He knew he would be impeached and removed from office, so he saved everyone the time and money.
Very pragmatic.
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Old 01-13-2020, 10:39 AM   #22
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No. He resigned the office before impeachment proceedings began. He knew he would be impeached and removed from office, so he saved everyone the time and money.
This is not correct. Nixon was impeached and resigned after impeachment but before a Senate trial for removal.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:08 AM   #23
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This is not correct. Nixon was impeached and resigned after impeachment but before a Senate trial for removal.
No, the House did not impeach Nixon. The House Judiciary Committee, in July 1974, approved three articles of impeachment and sent them to the full House. But Nixon resigned before there was a vote by the House.

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No, the House did not impeach Nixon. The House Judiciary Committee, in July 1974, approved three articles of impeachment and sent them to the full House. But Nixon resigned before there was a vote by the House.
Yes, you are right, I stand corrected.
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:36 PM   #25
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I'd pay good money to be able to see all those threads where you/we/us were called names for talking conspiracy. So many people just can't handle the truth it seems.

You know how many people would have to be involved? Local LEO, police chief, FBI blah blah blah... At least now there's a chance those people wake up some...
Yep.. I could name a few but I won't.. They know who they are.. Sheople... Bless their hearts!! LMAO..
Folks just can't wrap their heads around how crooked and corrupt and how anti-American our government was until Trump made his debut.. Trump knew this too..

Drain that swamp Trump.. Expose them all regardless!!
Trump 2020, Trump 2024, Trump 2028!!!!!!!

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Old 01-14-2020, 07:00 AM   #26
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I don't comment much on the forum at all, especially on the political threads, but I read them all. Can't help but notice there is a certain few missing from this thread...

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Old 01-14-2020, 08:08 AM   #27
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Excellent point and they won't show up for anything that reinforces Trump's position. It really illustrates they just harbor hatred for the person that is our President. Their statements aren't backed by anything except their emotions.

But, we all already knew that about those commenters. They'd be littering these threads with replies if FISA abuse were perpetrated on anyone else.
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Old 01-14-2020, 08:16 AM   #28
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The funniest thing about this to me is how these guys speak about ďwire tappingĒ Trump campaign. Comey goes on every news channel and says no we didnít wire tap trumps campaign. Wire tap, wire tap, wire tap. And technically heís correct. They didnít wire tap a land line phone. However the FBI was investigating Carter Paige, and the FBI has the two hop rule. Which means whoever the target of an investigation speaks with on the phone, they can also look at that persons communication records and spy on them.


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Old 01-14-2020, 08:41 AM   #29
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If they'll do it to a Presidential candidate and The President of The United States, imagine what they would do to you and me. Also imagine who they've done it to before. The un-elected .gov has way too much power with way too little oversight.
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And Donny still kicked the Dems butt in the election, despite it being rigged in several ways. Kind of pulls the curtain back on why the swamp is fighting him so much.

Also shows how dirty and corrupt Barry Hussein was/is. I think it will take years before we know just how dirty....
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If they'll do it to a Presidential candidate and The President of The United States, imagine what they would do to you and me. Also imagine who they've done it to before. The un-elected .gov has way too much power with way too little oversight.
If they can smear Trump this bad imagine how easy it would be for them to do whatever they want to any one of us.

Even after all this people STILL believe what they see on TV. I'm 99% sure if any one of us were shown on TV as a wife beater 99% of TBH would be saying to get a rope!

But yet everyone has to know the media is mostly lies...Best case they far exaggerate the truth.
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:22 AM   #32
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So much for a nonpartisan agency huh?
Who gave the order is what I want to know. I would think underlings were following orders.
How I would love to see leftys go to jail over this. That would restore a lot of faith in federal justice proceedings.
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Yep. They only comment when the conversation can be manipulated to fit their party's crooked narrative....
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Yep. They only comment when the conversation can be manipulated to fit their party's crooked narrative....
Like all liberals. They cant stand to face facts or the truth.
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Who gave the order is what I want to know. .
Iíll let you in on a secret. It was Barack Hussein Obama.
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Didn't a President get impeached for spying on the other party???

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No, he was about to be impeached for trying to coverup that his campaign was spying on the other party illegally (breaking and entering). He resigned before he could be impeached.
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If they'll do it to a Presidential candidate and The President of The United States, imagine what they would do to you and me. Also imagine who they've done it to before. The un-elected .gov has way too much power with way too little oversight.
Not what they "would do" to us but what they are doing and they have been doing it for a very long time...
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Not what they "would do" to us but what they are doing and they have been doing it for a very long time...
Yup. It has been a corrupt organization since their founding. They don't need a FISA court to railroad someone, but i'm sure it comes in handy.
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No, he was about to be impeached for trying to coverup that his campaign was spying on the other party illegally (breaking and entering). He resigned before he could be impeached.
So the breaking and entering was the issue?
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So the breaking and entering was the issue?
The cover up was the issue.
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