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Old 12-27-2019, 11:33 PM   #1
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There are three things I have become completely convinced on about pigs:

(1) They are smarter than deer by far.

(2) They have better ears/hearing than deer by far.

(3) They have better noses, and pick up scent/smells better than deer by far.

And, for a #4 - I am about 90% convinced, that pigs eyesight is better than deer (by far) at distances of around 40 yards & closer.

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Old 12-27-2019, 11:35 PM   #2
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Ummmm.... yes sir absolutely...
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Old 12-27-2019, 11:36 PM   #3
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Agreed On first three.
What amazes me is how far they will travel and or relocate for food.
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Old 12-27-2019, 11:38 PM   #4
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Number 5, they eat more deer corn than deer by far
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Agreed On first three.
What amazes me is how far they will travel and or relocate for food.
Their one (and only I have seen) fallacy is, their inability to deny their belly, although I have even noticed them doing that to some degree.

They definitely seem to be evolving.

Fun critters to hunt from the ground. Deer are easy by comparison.

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Old 12-27-2019, 11:40 PM   #6
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Yep...
I’m not so sure about them being able to see better than deer though. I’ve never been able to walk within 30 yards of deer without having them pick me up
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Old 12-27-2019, 11:43 PM   #7
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Yeah I agree on those but not the sight part at least in my experience.
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Old 12-27-2019, 11:50 PM   #8
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My pigs will walk past corn some days and others they wonít. They have been pressured by neighbors and are had to find anymore. Iím out here at 1045 trying and have seen one pig that would t even slow down for sour corn


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Old 12-27-2019, 11:57 PM   #9
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When a deer picks me off, it's generally from seeing me move from a distance, but up close on them, and I get away with a lot.

Pigs on the other hand never notice me, unless they are inside 40 yards, then I swear, they can see my eyes blink from behind me.

Like I said, I'm only 90% convinced, but I've been testing it, and I get away with a lot more on deer, than I do with pigs.

I love hunting them. Love sneaking around trying to set an ambush where I think they will be traveling by. It's actually proven (for me) to be much more challenging than doing the same for deer, and way more exciting.

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Old 12-28-2019, 12:00 AM   #10
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You keep sitting out there and not shooting stuff Iím going to think youíve gone tree hugger or feral


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Old 12-28-2019, 12:05 AM   #11
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Pigs are funny. I’ve had males bust out from the woods and start snorting like they own the place. Other times, I’ve seen mothers let their piglets eat corn out of my feeder and wait to see if the piglets get killed...and then they slink out. My property is just for play...which means I love having hogs around to kill.

For some reason, corn is stacking up around my feeder. I don’t think it’s been touched for 4-5 days. No deer, no pigs...it’s weird, never seen this in 8 years.
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Old 12-28-2019, 06:52 AM   #12
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I don't quite agree with #4. Mature pigs that have been hunted are smart.
Small pigs are hungry.
But I've shot pigs at 5 yards kneeling by a 6" diameter tree when they passed by me. Or see me draw, look at me for 15 seconds then keep feeding.
But 1 through 3 there's no doubt.
The biggest thing I know about pigs is that I enjoy hunting them.

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Old 12-28-2019, 07:50 AM   #13
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Just don’t shoot them in the guts! In the butt is ok.
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Old 12-28-2019, 08:08 AM   #14
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LOL - Between the restrictions placed on me by the MIL, and my own personal restrictions, it makes it tough to kill a lot of critters, but it's never boring.

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Old 12-28-2019, 08:20 AM   #15
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Just donít shoot them in the guts! In the butt is ok.
Unnecessary.

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There are three things I have become completely convinced on about pigs:



(1) They are smarter than deer by far.



(2) They have better ears/hearing than deer by far.



(3) They have better noses, and pick up scent/smells better than deer by far.



And, for a #4 - I am about 90% convinced, that pigs eyesight is better than deer (by far) at distances of around 40 yards & closer.



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I don't agree with #1 per se. That is too subjective to ascertain. I have seen dumb deer and dumb hogs and vice versa.

I dont fully agree with #2 either... it depends on the noises. I have walked into a group of hogs, stomping in and they don't care.

#3 I can get on board... I think though this is why you think they are smarter... I just think they follow thier nose better.

#4 I disagree.

But honestly, I think it boils down to the way you hunt them likely skews how smart you think they are. Population size for your area makea a big difference too. I have one area where the dear are easier... and one area where the hogs are easier...
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Old 12-28-2019, 10:24 AM   #17
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I agree with you on #1 and #3. I don't know about #2 but it wouldn't surprise me.


Google says pigs are the 5th most intelligent animal

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Old 12-28-2019, 10:47 AM   #18
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# 1 . Lots of factors to this one such as pressure and age. I’ve had spikes walk right up to me in the woods just to see what I was and I’ve also had young pigs come running to me within a few feet while I was pouring corn on the ground. Hell I’ve even shot pigs at a feeder with my truck running just a few yards away while checking cameras.
But I do believe a big mature boar that has been hunted is one of the absolute smartest animals in the woods !

#2. I disagree with, but in or around a feeder or anywhere they have been pressured they are on high alert it’s hard to get away with anything.

#3. I absolutely agree with!! Best **** nose there is especially once they mature and Learn to use it!!

#4. I disagree with.
I do however believe they can pick up on movement very well!
I’ve shot hogs within 4-5 yards of me while sitting on the ground but I was able to get drawn while they walked behind cover and my movement was concealed . The biggest hog I’ve ever chased with a bow was 284# and had him at 10 yrds several times and he would stare me down but never spook. But as soon as I moved an inch he was gone. My brother eventually killed him with a rifle
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Old 12-28-2019, 11:02 AM   #19
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But honestly, I think it boils down to the way you hunt them likely skews how smart you think they are. Population size for your area makea a big difference too. I have one area where the dear are easier... and one area where the hogs are easier...
I agree completely on this. Competition for food is a huge factor.
Years like this when there is plenty of food available high population can still be tough to hunt.
On my lease we have plenty of each but we aren't getting much activity at feeders this year because of all the natural forage.
When there are 30 pigs in a group and they are hitting feeders hard they tend to be less wary.

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Old 12-28-2019, 11:28 AM   #20
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I am of the opinion that hogs see better than many realize - especially movement. A couple weeks ago I stood up in my tripod to stretch, turned around and saw hogs coming across the pasture 75 yards away. (Upwind) they stopped when I stood up, stared for a second or two then ran back the direction they came. I’m not saying they see as well as deer but the gap is not that big. One reason hogs don’t see us as well is because their eyes are so low to the ground and they are mostly looking directly in front of them. I don’t think their peripheral vision is anywhere as good as a deer
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Old 12-28-2019, 11:33 AM   #21
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LOL - Between the restrictions placed on me by the MIL, and my own personal restrictions, it makes it tough to kill a lot of critters, but it's never boring.



Rick


You and I are in a similar boat. Iím grateful for my little place to hunt but it comes with restrictions. Once I win the lottery Iíll have a place for the tbh crew to hang out.


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Old 12-28-2019, 11:50 AM   #22
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You and I are in a similar boat. Iím grateful for my little place to hunt but it comes with restrictions. Once I win the lottery Iíll have a place for the tbh crew to hang out.


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The MIL won't let us shoot the doe. I know others in the family ignore her rule, but I comply.

My own personal restrictions are - I won't shoot an immature buck, and it has to be at least an 8 point outside it's ears, plus right now I am only after mature boar with large tusk.

If not for that, it would be pure carnage almost every time I get out there.

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Old 12-28-2019, 04:56 PM   #23
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All but #4 in my experience. I can have a group of pigs below me and still draw without worrying about it. More than one deer and it gets pretty sporty. I do think they can hear better but they have trouble hearing too much over their own noise. They fall in to the smartest mammals list at #4. They for sure smell better and the pressured pigs play the wind better. I have a place that I can’t kill a pig because they circle the entire area to catch wind.
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Old 12-28-2019, 05:33 PM   #24
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Depending on the study you read, you will see anywhere from 5th most intelligent to 7th most intelligent.

A quote from one such study:

"Pigs are actually considered the fifth-most intelligent animal in the world—even more intelligent than dogs—and are capable of playing video games with more focus and success than chimps!

They also have excellent object-location memory. If they find grub in one spot, they’ll remember to look there next time. Pigs possess a sophisticated sense of direction too. They can find their way home from huge distances away.

Just last year, a five-month-old pig named Amy was dubbed the “top dog” in her canine agility class."

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Old 12-28-2019, 05:49 PM   #25
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And they are delicious too!!!

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Just because they are smart doesn't make them harder to hunt. In fact, IMO, it makes em more predictable.
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Old 12-28-2019, 06:53 PM   #27
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Just because they are smart doesn't make them harder to hunt. In fact, IMO, it makes em more predictable.
Never thought of it that way but I think your right!
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Old 12-28-2019, 07:14 PM   #28
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I agree with most of it except the sight and hearing. I think the extra noise that pigs inherently produce allows hunters to be louder than with deer. I do believe they can see very well at whatever they are looking directly at, but less peripheral. Deer I think are opposite, great peripheral but not the best “eyesight”.
From what I’ve noticed about pigs is that if anything is out of place to them, they take off and won’t be seen again. Sometimes I think deer are too curious or less skiddish.
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Old 12-28-2019, 07:21 PM   #29
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Yeah I agree on those but not the sight part at least in my experience.
same here, have walked up pretty close to them before, unintentionally.
Also, at least in my experience as well, they are rarely seen in the daylight, making them almost unhuntable on my part.
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Agree. They know when we get to came I believe!!!
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My opinion:
Noses are as good or better
Eyes not as good
Hearing as good when it’s one or two hogs, but groups make so much noise, especially eating, that they can’t hear as well
Smarter or more paranoid ? Lots of deer are not targets, but in most scenarios, pigs get shot, that makes them even more wary.

I know this, where a deer might hear or see something and hang around to identify it, the hogs I’m familiar with are just.......GONE !
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pigs are funny. Iíve had males bust out from the woods and start snorting like they own the place. Other times, iíve seen mothers let their piglets eat corn out of my feeder and wait to see if the piglets get killed...and then they slink out. My property is just for play...which means i love having hogs around to kill.

For some reason, corn is stacking up around my feeder. I donít think itís been touched for 4-5 days. No deer, no pigs...itís weird, never seen this in 8 years.

gmo corn?
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When a deer picks me off, it's generally from seeing me move from a distance, but up close on them, and I get away with a lot.

Pigs on the other hand never notice me, unless they are inside 40 yards, then I swear, they can see my eyes blink from behind me.

Like I said, I'm only 90% convinced, but I've been testing it, and I get away with a lot more on deer, than I do with pigs.

I love hunting them. Love sneaking around trying to set an ambush where I think they will be traveling by. It's actually proven (for me) to be much more challenging than doing the same for deer, and way more exciting.

Rick
I would say pigs have a sixth sense or at least the older wiser ones do. I hunted a group of pigs that were showing up on my mother's place some years back. Most of the group, would come in quickly and eat the acorns we put out for them. But there was one pig in the group, he was very wise and seemed to know I was there, without seeing me, hearing me or smelling me. He would always keep other pigs between me and him. Then once he did finally move in closer, where I might have a shot at him. He would then start getting skittish or jumpy. Then almost always would only hang around where the main pile of acorns were, for maybe two minutes, then he would take off. Eventually the bigger older sows would notice he was gone, then one by one they would start taking off. They knew when he left, it was a good idea to get out of there also. So I usually wound up killing the pigs that were slow learners or chose food over life. I tried very hard to kill him, but never got a clean shot at him. Had I killed him, it would have been easy to kill as many of the rest of the group as I wanted.
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