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Old 09-16-2020, 11:14 PM   #1
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Been looking into this Hunting with a Tree Saddle. Would like to see what green screen has to say about it.
From what I can see itís lighter, easier to carry, easier to move.

Just want to see from those who have experience with it, and what yíallís options are on this style of hunting.

The pros, and cons.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:23 PM   #2
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Im in on this one as well. Bought the new phantom saddle and cant wait to get in the woods with it. From everything i see i can tell that it has the POTENTIAL to be a very good thing. Time will tell.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:34 PM   #3
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I love it. Super light and very mobile. I never have to hunt the same tree twice. I have a H2 saddle, Hawk Helium 20Ē sticks, and a Ridge Runner platform. My only issue is my dumb a** didnít start hunting this way years ago.


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Old 09-16-2020, 11:35 PM   #4
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Setup in my new backyard. 16ft to platform.
Targets at 20, 30, and just added 40 and 50 tonight.

My son is 12. We are both new starting this year.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:46 PM   #5
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Last year was my first season in one and I love it. I hunt west Texas where trees are not easy to hang a traditional tree stand in, so this setup is much more adaptable to the crazy oaks we have. I also like the mobility. Last year was record acorn crop and deer stopped coming to the feeders for the most part, so I went after them. I had a Tethrd mantis and upgraded to the phantom. Also have the predator platform. I bought a used set of 12 wild edge steps which are enough to also pre set a couple trees with steps, and I have a set of light weight climbing sticks also.


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Old 09-17-2020, 08:54 AM   #6
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There is definitely a learning curve, but overall I really like saddle hunting. Practicing here in Iowa yesterday. Tethrd Phantom, Tethrd tree tether, Predator platform, homemade linesman's belt with rated carabiniers and a Ropeman 1 ascender.

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Old 09-17-2020, 09:47 AM   #7
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my question is how comfortable is it? How long can you stay in stand with this set up? If you wanted to sit all day, could you comfortably?
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Old 09-17-2020, 10:08 AM   #8
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Very nice, definitely looking into getting one.

2 questions to ask.
I know tree stands we would use a safety line to break our falls in case we were to fall. What’s the safety line on the saddles?
And what Are the chances of you falling While high in the tree on the saddle for whatever cause it could be?
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Old 09-17-2020, 10:15 AM   #9
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Very nice, definitely looking into getting one.

2 questions to ask.
I know tree stands we would use a safety line to break our falls in case we were to fall. Whatís the safety line on the saddles?
And what Are the chances of you falling While high in the tree on the saddle for whatever cause it could be?
The tether IS the safety line. There is no need for anything else if you have proper gear. You should use a lineman's rope when getting in the tree and if you are extra cautious you can use the lineman's rope as a backup but it is kind of redundant.
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Old 09-17-2020, 10:59 AM   #10
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The tether IS the safety line. There is no need for anything else if you have proper gear. You should use a lineman's rope when getting in the tree and if you are extra cautious you can use the lineman's rope as a backup but it is kind of redundant.
Okay thatís a clear explanation. Thanks
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Old 09-17-2020, 11:11 AM   #11
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Very nice, definitely looking into getting one.

2 questions to ask.
I know tree stands we would use a safety line to break our falls in case we were to fall. Whatís the safety line on the saddles?
And what Are the chances of you falling While high in the tree on the saddle for whatever cause it could be?
Also, as long as you're tether is connected you really cannot fall. I have seen some videos where guys have tried every way possible to fall (the one in the link below). You can basically flip completely upside down and not fall.

This video is pretty dang funny but it will answer your questions on tree saddle safety. Please watch you will enjoy.

https://youtu.be/f3SLXqt9aS4

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Old 09-17-2020, 11:20 AM   #12
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my question is how comfortable is it? How long can you stay in stand with this set up? If you wanted to sit all day, could you comfortably?
Same question here.
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Old 09-17-2020, 11:38 AM   #13
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There's a thing called getting into saddle shape. You have to practice and build muscles. Starting out we are rotating 2 hour sits while practicing shooting. 6-8 hours should be no problem. Next week I'm going to make a back support band. That will help as well.

Most new saddles have adjustable bridges which allow for bigger/smaller hip sizes and well as angle adjustments. Thats for sitters vs leaders. We love it and will be tag teaming come Oct.
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Old 09-17-2020, 01:03 PM   #14
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I love mine I didnt touch my 2 climbers once last year and only hunted out of a ladder stand twice. But I will say, its definitely harder for me to shoot out of. I have trouble staying steady past 40. But I'm not shooting that far at a deer anyways so its really a mute point.

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Old 09-17-2020, 01:20 PM   #15
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Same question here.
Most saddles are very comfortable. Especially with the newer saddles. There are many new companies out there and they are all competing to be the most comfortable user friendly saddle available. Take a look at the Tethrd Phantom, the Cruzr XC, Aero Hunter Kestral Flex, H2, Latitude, JX3 to name a few of the most popular saddles.

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Old 09-17-2020, 01:20 PM   #16
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I just got my JX3 Hybrid a couple days ago. I went with the JX3 because it's a saddle/seat in one. I haven't gotten up a tree with it yet but they're supposed to be extremely comfortable. Look it up on YouTube and there are a few demonstrations. I'll update when I practice a few times with it and let you know what it's like.
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Old 09-17-2020, 01:26 PM   #17
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Setup in my new backyard. 16ft to platform.

Targets at 20, 30, and just added 40 and 50 tonight.



My son is 12. We are both new starting this year.
Just FYI make sure ur carabiners are always facing up.

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Old 09-17-2020, 07:11 PM   #18
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Practicing from the saddle again this evening. I inavertantly placed my target in a tricky location and I was too lazy to get down and move it. A limb was basically directly in my way for a clear shot. The cool thing about a saddle is that you can manuver around the tree to get a shot. It takes some saddle time to get comfortable and to learn how to get into different shot positions. My target was at 25 yards.

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Old 09-17-2020, 08:08 PM   #19
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Doesn't look comfortable for an all day or extended hunt. Anyone have experience? Need it from someone preferably an older dude like me.
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Old 09-17-2020, 08:16 PM   #20
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Do they work well in twisted oaks? Do you have to have a certain length of relatively straight tree? Thx.
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Old 09-17-2020, 08:23 PM   #21
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I just donít see how it can be more comfortable than my climber.


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Old 09-17-2020, 08:32 PM   #22
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I never sat in a climber before, but I have lower back problems and sitting in a tree stand always gave me sciatic problems. Switched to a saddle and have not had a single flare up. I also donít hunt in trees that I could use a climber. I think itís all about preference. Longest I sat before is 6 hrs, not a single issue.
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Old 09-17-2020, 08:40 PM   #23
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Doesn't look comfortable for an all day or extended hunt. Anyone have experience? Need it from someone preferably an older dude like me.
I am 66. I usually do about 4 hour sits whether I am in a lock on or a saddle. You can easily do an all day sit in a saddle. You can stand, lean, sit with your knees against the tree, sit with your legs beside the tree. I was in the tree 3 hours this evening.

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certified fat guy here....checking in. Im 6'3" and 285. I went with the cruzr XC as it seemed to be the best option for the portly folk. Ive spent a little time in the saddle just off the ground and it seems extremely versatile. I will be getting it up in the tree this weekend and doing some shooting out of it. I dont think ill have any trouble spending a couple hours in it at this point but it will take some getting used to in order for me to do the longer sits like I want to be able to do.
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I never sat in a climber before, but I have lower back problems and sitting in a tree stand always gave me sciatic problems. Switched to a saddle and have not had a single flare up. I also donít hunt in trees that I could use a climber. I think itís all about preference. Longest I sat before is 6 hrs, not a single issue.


I would use it over a lock on any day. I have too many pines and yíall oaks to mess with all those moving parts.


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Old 09-17-2020, 10:00 PM   #26
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I have been hunting out of a saddle for going on 4 years. It has been a game changer for me. I hunt majority public land. its not cheap getting started in the saddle game but worth it if your hunting public land. I feel safer in a saddle than I ever have in any hang on or climber. When it comes to comfort its never going to be as comfortable as a comfy summit climber but it sure is a hell of alot lighter to carry/wear in to hunt plus your tree doesn't have to be straight.
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Old 09-17-2020, 10:34 PM   #27
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i have a cruzer xc on order
hopefully it will come in time for deer season!
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Old 09-18-2020, 06:18 AM   #28
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I was planning on going to that demo up around Denton back before the craziness started and everything got shut down

Interested but need some hands on before I jump in
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So how do you get up in the the tree? From what I see, it looks like you have to get a rope up in the tree above you. Then pull yourself up? Or are you using, something like lineman's climbers, that strap on your boots? The pictures and the video. I don't see anyone wearing those, so I would assume they are pulling themselves up with a rope. You are going to have to get that rope tied off up in the tree to pull yourself up.

It looks like something that would work great for me, more so, if I could just walk up to a tree, say this looks like a good tree and be up in that tree and ready to hunt, inside of 10 minutes. I guess you could use different ways to get up in different trees, but just curious what is the normal procedure?
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Doesn't look comfortable for an all day or extended hunt. Anyone have experience? Need it from someone preferably an older dude like me.
I'm 57 and could sit all day in mine. I got rid of all my hang on stands. You won't believe the comfort and versatilty.
Key is you can put the tree between you and the deer until you want to ease out and make the shot. It truly is a game changer.

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Old 09-18-2020, 09:30 AM   #31
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So how do you get up in the the tree? From what I see, it looks like you have to get a rope up in the tree above you. Then pull yourself up? Or are you using, something like lineman's climbers, that strap on your boots? The pictures and the video. I don't see anyone wearing those, so I would assume they are pulling themselves up with a rope. You are going to have to get that rope tied off up in the tree to pull yourself up.

It looks like something that would work great for me, more so, if I could just walk up to a tree, say this looks like a good tree and be up in that tree and ready to hunt, inside of 10 minutes. I guess you could use different ways to get up in different trees, but just curious what is the normal procedure?
I use screw in steps. Lots of people use portable hang on ladders. Some use lineman spurs..... basically the same way you get up to a hang on stand.
I use two lineman ropes to get the tree set up then tie a lifeline at the top and use a prusik knot to climb the tree after the steps are in. It's basically all the same as setting up a hang on but your sitting/leaning in a saddle. 10x more comfortable and versatile.

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So how do you get up in the the tree? From what I see, it looks like you have to get a rope up in the tree above you. Then pull yourself up? Or are you using, something like lineman's climbers, that strap on your boots? The pictures and the video. I don't see anyone wearing those, so I would assume they are pulling themselves up with a rope. You are going to have to get that rope tied off up in the tree to pull yourself up.

It looks like something that would work great for me, more so, if I could just walk up to a tree, say this looks like a good tree and be up in that tree and ready to hunt, inside of 10 minutes. I guess you could use different ways to get up in different trees, but just curious what is the normal procedure?
Climbing sticks, Rapid Rails, Wild Edge steps, screw in steps, pre set ladder sections, spurs, some guys use single rope and double rope climbing technique and rappel down.

I am using some aluminum Rapid Rails at this time because I have several sets. They are lightweight and easy to set. I have a set of lightweight climbing sticks ordered. If you are using conventional climbing methods (sticks, ladder sections, etc) you always need to use a lineman's climbing belt until you get your tether attached to the tree, attached to your bridge on your saddle and on your platform. I can be up in most trees in 10 minutes or less.

Some guys are "one sticking". One sticking is not for everyone but a lot of saddle guys are using this method.

Here is a video on using one stick to get to your desired platform height.

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Old 09-18-2020, 10:47 AM   #33
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Good info thanks. I want something small I could put everything in a back pack and take everything in on one trip. That saddle deal could work. I just need to pick the right, compact climbing method. Whatever I use, gas to fit in my backpack.
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Old 09-18-2020, 11:14 AM   #34
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I also just picked up the TETHRD system and Hawk Helium 20' sticks this summer and this will be my first time hunting out of this. From everything I read above and seen on utube with The Hunting Public crew and Tethrd crew themselves Saddle seems the way to go. I also hunt only Public lands and find it cumbersome to carry in my Summit. Headed to Wisconsin in a week to do some Grouse, Trout and I picked up some deer tags also while i'm there. ( pretty dam cheap for first time hunters) Gonna give it a try and hopefully I'm successful.
But I dont think your gonna be disappointing going the Saddle way.
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Old 09-18-2020, 01:43 PM   #35
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I am 48 and am switching to saddle hunting this year. I hunt public 95% of the time and just the weight savings(12lbs at least) of what I carry in is worth giving it a good hard try. Yes I still have my other methods(climber/lock-on) but don't plan on using any of it.

My practice so far has been fun and also eye opening on how wide open the tree choices will be.

I have a mixed menagerie of gear..... CRUZR XC, Tethrd Predator & tether, Muddy linemans rope, Hawk sticks w/amsteel rope mods & aiders.
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Old 09-30-2020, 03:01 PM   #37
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What’s a good platform that’s not over $100+.?

I got the saddle kit, just missing a platform.
I was curious what y’all use as a platform.
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Old 09-30-2020, 03:12 PM   #38
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Whatís a good platform thatís not over $100+.?

I got the saddle kit, just missing a platform.
I was curious what yíall use as a platform.
I use the predator platform.
The first two years I saddle hunted I just used screw in steps as my platform. Not the most comfortable thing in the world but it works in a pinch.
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Old 09-30-2020, 03:13 PM   #39
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Whatís a good platform thatís not over $100+.?

I got the saddle kit, just missing a platform.
I was curious what yíall use as a platform.
There's not one. I took a seat from a LW stand and made one. Works really well. I also have a OOAL Ridge Runner. Got it on sale for $125 I think. He runs flash sales from time to time.
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Okay thanks.
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Old 09-30-2020, 05:05 PM   #41
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i am interested in yalls preferred climbing method also.
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Old 09-30-2020, 05:08 PM   #42
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i am interested in yalls preferred climbing method also.
Screw in steps for me but I'm on private land.
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Old 09-30-2020, 05:16 PM   #43
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Also, as long as you're tether is connected you really cannot fall. I have seen some videos where guys have tried every way possible to fall (the one in the link below). You can basically flip completely upside down and not fall.

This video is pretty dang funny but it will answer your questions on tree saddle safety. Please watch you will enjoy.

https://youtu.be/f3SLXqt9aS4

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This is the best video I have seen in a while. lol
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Old 09-30-2020, 05:18 PM   #44
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Screw in steps for me but I'm on private land.
Just bought a set of Wild Edge steps for this season. Easy to use and lightweight.

https://www.wildedgeinc.com/steppladder.html#/
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Old 09-30-2020, 05:18 PM   #45
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Iíve been hunting out of saddles for 7 years, and the two guys I hunt with have been in them for 10+ each.

I wonít use anything else. I have a lone wolf assault that has been hanging in the close collecting dust for 6 years. I started with a few different DIY saddles and ended up upgrading to tethrd when they started up. I am running the Tethrd Phantom, Predator platform, and modified hawk helium sticks this season. I plan on picking up a set of 4 Tethrd One climbing sticks after season is over.


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Old 09-30-2020, 05:46 PM   #46
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How about something that doesn’t require screws due to public land?
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Old 09-30-2020, 06:28 PM   #47
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Iíve been hunting out of saddles for 7 years, and the two guys I hunt with have been in them for 10+ each.

I wonít use anything else. I have a lone wolf assault that has been hanging in the close collecting dust for 6 years. I started with a few different DIY saddles and ended up upgrading to tethrd when they started up. I am running the Tethrd Phantom, Predator platform, and modified hawk helium sticks this season. I plan on picking up a set of 4 Tethrd One climbing sticks after season is over.


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Me too. Need to start saving $$$ today.

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Old 09-30-2020, 07:41 PM   #48
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Iíve been hunting out of saddles for 7 years, and the two guys I hunt with have been in them for 10+ each.

I wonít use anything else. I have a lone wolf assault that has been hanging in the close collecting dust for 6 years. I started with a few different DIY saddles and ended up upgrading to tethrd when they started up. I am running the Tethrd Phantom, Predator platform, and modified hawk helium sticks this season. I plan on picking up a set of 4 Tethrd One climbing sticks after season is over.


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Hey man I was REALLY looking forward to the class your were putting together and this stupid COVID crap killed that, any chance you will try again after season?

I really want to move into a saddle but have questions and since no trade shows this year it has made it harder for my decision on what gear to go with
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Old 09-30-2020, 10:00 PM   #49
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Hey man I was REALLY looking forward to the class your were putting together and this stupid COVID crap killed that, any chance you will try again after season?

I really want to move into a saddle but have questions and since no trade shows this year it has made it harder for my decision on what gear to go with

If you havenít already, check out saddlehunter.com lots of great info there with good classified section but the stuff goes quick.


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Old 10-01-2020, 05:46 AM   #50
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Doesn't look comfortable for an all day or extended hunt. Anyone have experience? Need it from someone preferably an older dude like me.
Arrowsmith would know for sure, he is no spring chicken himself. Sorry Mike!!!
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