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Old 07-05-2019, 08:40 PM   #1
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The people that did the abusing are really dragging their feet to get investigated..
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Old 07-05-2019, 08:48 PM   #2
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Let's just hope as many guilty people go to prison and did innocent people.
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Old 07-05-2019, 09:24 PM   #3
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that d.h. Brennen should be sent to the gas chamber.
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Old 07-05-2019, 09:50 PM   #4
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There is a lot of well deserved outrage about abuse at the Justice Department around the election but the guilty - and the machine they control - will continue to delay and bog down the process until the whole thing slips down the memory hole. Americans have short memories and attention spans especially with no MSM coverage. Most have forgotten about it if they ever knew/cared at all. Eventually prosecutors leave their positions without getting anywhere and the new guy has neither the political capital or the stomach for the fight. That is just the way things work in Washington. Just another scandal that fizzled due to lack of interest
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:13 PM   #5
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There is a lot of well deserved outrage about abuse at the Justice Department around the election but the guilty - and the machine they control - will continue to delay and bog down the process until the whole thing slips down the memory hole. Americans have short memories and attention spans especially with no MSM coverage. Most have forgotten about it if they ever knew/cared at all. Eventually prosecutors leave their positions without getting anywhere and the new guy has neither the political capital or the stomach for the fight. That is just the way things work in Washington. Just another scandal that fizzled due to lack of interest
Exactly how i figured it would go down from the beginning.
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Old 07-05-2019, 11:10 PM   #6
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that d.h. Brennen should be sent to the gas chamber.
Wow. You first.
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Old 07-06-2019, 09:59 AM   #7
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If Trump gets another 4 years we may actually see someone go to jail. If not it will die on the vine.
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Old 07-06-2019, 10:43 AM   #8
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If Trump gets another 4 years we may actually see someone go to jail. If not it will die on the vine.
Yep
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Old 07-06-2019, 06:32 PM   #9
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Wow. You first.
I knew someone would get triggered.

you obviously don't understand the penalty for treason; right?

John Brennen is the ringleader for the false narrative that started all of this crap...it was his idea. everyone else was just following along.

and if you don't think this was treason, do tell what you think it was.
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Old 07-06-2019, 07:13 PM   #10
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I knew someone would get triggered.

you obviously don't understand the penalty for treason; right?

John Brennen is the ringleader for the false narrative that started all of this crap...it was his idea. everyone else was just following along.

and if you don't think this was treason, do tell what you think it was.
Just a little innocent white lie
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Old 07-06-2019, 08:18 PM   #11
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and if you don't think this was treason, do tell what you think it was.
I wouldn't say so, given that the constitution is very specific about what qualifies as treason: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."

It basically is geared towards acts committed during war, which is why only 14 people have ever been convicted of treason, and all for crimes during wartime or for armed insurrection. Hell, the Rosenbergs weren't even tried for treason, but rather under the espionage act.

There's plenty of other laws though.
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Old 07-06-2019, 08:20 PM   #12
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I wouldn't say so, given that the constitution is very specific about what qualifies as treason: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."

It basically is geared towards acts committed during war, which is why only 14 people have ever been convicted of treason, and all for crimes during wartime or for armed insurrection. Hell, the Rosenbergs weren't even tried for treason, but rather under the espionage act.

There's plenty of other laws though.
maybe we need to expand the definition.
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Old 07-06-2019, 08:35 PM   #13
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maybe we need to expand the definition.
Ha. Too many other laws they can use to bother with trying to amend the constitution.
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Old 07-06-2019, 08:39 PM   #14
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Ha. Too many other laws they can use to bother with trying to amend the constitution.
true, but I don't think you can get a severe a punishment for the others, can you??? idk
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Old 07-07-2019, 02:00 AM   #15
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true, but I don't think you can get a severe a punishment for the others, can you??? idk
Hmmm, basically to get a death penalty, you have to commit treason, murder, or espionage (and not the spying on a political opponent kind, the kind where you give info to a foreign gov't). Everything else is a prison sentence.

I also should say I foresee zero people ending up in jail.
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Old 07-07-2019, 10:23 PM   #16
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My gut feelings say nothing more than a hand slap and political banter.

I'd at least like to see the guilty parties loose their federal retirements.

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Old 07-08-2019, 09:32 AM   #17
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Hit them with RICO.

Its a corrupt organization if there ever was one.
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