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tradtiger · 02-28-2021, 01:07 PM

How about a windage and elevation target about now, shaped like a T....

Target is about 6 inches high, with the top bar 5.5 inches wide and 1.5 inch thick bars. Center on a piece of copy paper and put a dot at the top middle as shown below.

Shoot the first 4 shots of a day at the dot from 14 yards (7 for kiddos), any stance. Count the number of hits anywhere on the "T" (touching line counts). Measure the one closest arrow from shaft to center of dot as a tie-breaker. Up to four days' tries allowed.

Good luck and have fun!

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SJP51 · 02-28-2021, 02:51 PM

4 on the paper. Only one in the T.

Better luck tomorrow!

tradtiger · 03-01-2021, 05:32 PM

Day 1: 2 hits; closest 1-3/8"
First three shots went left to right in order, with final one on vertical bar.

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Briar Friar · 03-01-2021, 06:44 PM

Good target and good shooting T^2.

Day 1: 1/16” on first shot from the Duct Tape Turbulated with 3 on T.
(Tape measure wasnt cooperating with the small measure)

SJP51 · 03-01-2021, 07:21 PM

"Turbulated"????

DRT · 03-01-2021, 07:35 PM

You go Briar!

Grand Passage · 03-01-2021, 08:48 PM

Nice shot Briar!

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tradtiger · 03-01-2021, 10:04 PM

That a boy, Briar!

Grand Passage · 03-02-2021, 09:09 AM

Day 1

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DRT · 03-02-2021, 11:44 AM

Go yuh oure on fire

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Briar Friar · 03-02-2021, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJP51

"Turbulated"????

A turbulator breaks the laminar air flow along a shaft. Dr Ashby brought it up in his lectures on arrow construction...you can find the videos on GrizzlyStiks website. Essentially using a small raised band around the shaft in front of fletchings creates more turbulence and enhances the drag of the fletchings to aid in accuracy and stability. Dr Ashby said to use 1/8” pinstriping tape. Ive run my 1/8” duct tape turbulator through two critters so far.

Not many people consider or talk about that arrow wraps essentially do the same thing as an intentional turbulator...unwittingly create more turbulence and subsequently drag to aid in accuracy and arrow stability (...to be redundant).

Thanks Yall.

Briar Friar · 03-02-2021, 12:51 PM

Day 2: 2 strikes and measure not better than 1/16”
I was disappointed the turbulated didnt make a strike.

Good shooting GP!

tradtiger · 03-02-2021, 01:35 PM

Y'all are shooting nicely!

Briar: Hadn't thought of just cutting a thin piece of duct tape to use as a turbulator. I might try that. Heck, my whole hunting set up is based pretty much on principles that Dr. Ashby outlined. (600 grain arrow, with close to 30% FOC, amounting to about 9 GPI)

Bisch · 03-02-2021, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tradtiger

Y'all are shooting nicely!

Briar: Hadn't thought of just cutting a thin piece of duct tape to use as a turbulator. I might try that. Heck, my whole hunting set up is based pretty much on principles that Dr. Ashby outlined. (600 grain arrow, with close to 30% FOC, amounting to about 9 GPI)

9gpi, or 9gpp??? I see no way possible to build a 9gpp arrow with 30% FOC.

Please list your arrow specs.

Bisch

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tradtiger · 03-02-2021, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bisch

9gpi, or 9gpp??? I see no way possible to build a 9gpp arrow with 30% FOC.

Please list your arrow specs.

Bisch

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Thanks for the catch, Bisch. Was intending to say it's about 9 gpp (600 grain arrow in 67-lb bow). Mis-stated FOC; not nearly 30%, rather, it's actually 26.2%.

Just checked, using AMO Method 1: 29" length from nockpoint to back of fieldpoint; with 22.1" from nockpoint to balance point.
So, it's below the 30% threshold defining Ultra-Extreme FOC, but well up in the range of Extreme FOC of 19-29%. Hits pretty hard, still flies fast.

BTW, nice to see you at Cowtown TBOT.

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tradtiger · 03-02-2021, 07:54 PM

Here's Day 2: 1 hit, no measure.
Close with shots 1 and 4.

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Briar Friar · 03-03-2021, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tradtiger

Thanks for the catch, Bisch. Was intending to say it's about 9 gpp (600 grain arrow in 67-lb bow). Mis-stated FOC; not nearly 30%, rather, it's actually 26.2%.

Just checked, using AMO Method 1: 29" length from nockpoint to back of fieldpoint; with 22.1" from nockpoint to balance point.
So, it's below the 30% threshold defining Ultra-Extreme FOC, but well up in the range of Extreme FOC of 19-29%. Hits pretty hard, still flies fast.

BTW, nice to see you at Cowtown TBOT.

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Those are some sexy stats T^2.

Briar Friar · 03-03-2021, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bisch

9gpi, or 9gpp??? I see no way possible to build a 9gpp arrow with 30% FOC.

Please list your arrow specs.

Bisch

“Always watching.”

Thanks for keeping us between the lines Jerry.

TXRebel · 03-03-2021, 02:18 PM

^^^Nice shooting, gentlemen ^^^^^^

Day 1

Grand Passage · 03-03-2021, 05:16 PM

Day 2

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Briar Friar · 03-03-2021, 09:36 PM

Good shooting fellas! GP...Im hoping you find a way to slip that 4th arrow in the T.

T^2...I need a call made on my ugly Day 3...shots went bottom to left to top to right... clockwise. Shot 2 seems to dent the line (no white between hole and line)...and shot 4 plugged the aim point dot.

Day 3: 2 or 3 on T...aim point strike dead on

My 2yo joined us for 2 shots. First from 9 and second from 6. Second shot he was on target butt but off paper. Two shots was enough when the tree swing became priority.

DRT · 03-03-2021, 09:40 PM

Ellis is a very generous lineman. But even I would say that one is touching.

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tradtiger · 03-04-2021, 12:58 AM

Oh, yeah. That's 3 hits, Briar. Very nice. And you obliterated the tie-breaker spot. So, it will take 4 hits to beat you.

Briar Friar · 03-04-2021, 09:41 AM

Okey Dokey

TXRebel · 03-04-2021, 01:13 PM

Day 2

tradtiger · 03-04-2021, 08:08 PM

Day 3: 2 hits

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tradtiger · 03-05-2021, 03:16 PM

Day 4: 2 hits.
First and 4th shots good; 2nd and 3rd not so much.

Briar Friar leads.

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Grand Passage · 03-06-2021, 09:32 AM

Shot twice yesterday since I knew I wouldn’t have an opportunity to shoot today. Wind yesterday afternoon wasn’t helping, but I did center punch the aiming dot.

Round 3

Round 4

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Briar Friar · 03-06-2021, 09:49 AM

Dang good shooting Peoples. I havent shot in two days...Ill finish out the week later. I “installed” some turbulators on my other arrows and moved the existing turbulator away from the fletchings by a half inch or so. Im sooper excited for the virgin run!

tradtiger · 03-06-2021, 01:01 PM

Excellent shooting, GP! And, while not specifically stated, there is precedent for shooting another day's round in advance. In other words, your 4-hit round, with the punched dot, counts and leads.

If we get another one similar, I'll probably consider completeness of arrows in the T (as opposed to cutting lines). Carry on.

Briar Friar · 03-06-2021, 09:21 PM

Giggity. Good call TT.

Day 4: 1 in the T

tradtiger · 03-07-2021, 10:22 AM

Good shooting y'all.
Congrats to Grand Passage! Your call for week 10.

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02-28-2021, 01:07 PM	#1
tradtiger Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Austin Hunt In: Lee Co., Granger	Traditional FSC Week 9 How about a windage and elevation target about now, shaped like a T.... Target is about 6 inches high, with the top bar 5.5 inches wide and 1.5 inch thick bars. Center on a piece of copy paper and put a dot at the top middle as shown below. Shoot the first 4 shots of a day at the dot from 14 yards (7 for kiddos), any stance. Count the number of hits anywhere on the "T" (touching line counts). Measure the one closest arrow from shaft to center of dot as a tie-breaker. Up to four days' tries allowed. Good luck and have fun! Draw your own target or print mine: Sent from my SM-J337V using Tapatalk

03-01-2021, 06:44 PM	#4
Briar Friar Pope & Young Join Date: May 2015	Good target and good shooting T^2. Day 1: 1/16” on first shot from the Duct Tape Turbulated with 3 on T. (Tape measure wasnt cooperating with the small measure) Attached Images

03-02-2021, 12:51 PM	#12
Briar Friar Pope & Young Join Date: May 2015	Day 2: 2 strikes and measure not better than 1/16” I was disappointed the turbulated didnt make a strike. Good shooting GP! Attached Images Last edited by Briar Friar; 03-02-2021 at 12:55 PM. Reason: GPnoT2Spake

03-03-2021, 09:36 PM	#21
Briar Friar Pope & Young Join Date: May 2015	Good shooting fellas! GP...Im hoping you find a way to slip that 4th arrow in the T. T^2...I need a call made on my ugly Day 3...shots went bottom to left to top to right... clockwise. Shot 2 seems to dent the line (no white between hole and line)...and shot 4 plugged the aim point dot. Day 3: 2 or 3 on T...aim point strike dead on My 2yo joined us for 2 shots. First from 9 and second from 6. Second shot he was on target butt but off paper. Two shots was enough when the tree swing became priority. Attached Images

03-06-2021, 09:21 PM	#31
Briar Friar Pope & Young Join Date: May 2015	Giggity. Good call TT. Day 4: 1 in the T Attached Images

02-28-2021, 02:51 PM	#2
SJP51 Four Point Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Nacogdoches Hunt In: Menard, Nacogdoches, Bryan	4 on the paper. Only one in the T. Better luck tomorrow!

03-01-2021, 05:32 PM	#3
tradtiger Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Austin Hunt In: Lee Co., Granger	Day 1: 2 hits; closest 1-3/8" First three shots went left to right in order, with final one on vertical bar. Sent from my SM-J337V using Tapatalk

03-01-2021, 07:21 PM	#5
SJP51 Four Point Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Nacogdoches Hunt In: Menard, Nacogdoches, Bryan	"Turbulated"????

03-01-2021, 07:35 PM	#6
DRT Pope & Young Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Hunt In: Jones County and Missouri	You go Briar!

03-01-2021, 08:48 PM	#7
Grand Passage Eight Point Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Boerne Hunt In: Hill Country & South TX	Nice shot Briar! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-01-2021, 10:04 PM	#8
tradtiger Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Austin Hunt In: Lee Co., Granger	That a boy, Briar!

03-02-2021, 09:09 AM	#9
Grand Passage Eight Point Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Boerne Hunt In: Hill Country & South TX	Day 1 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-02-2021, 11:44 AM	#10
DRT Pope & Young Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Hunt In: Jones County and Missouri	Go yuh oure on fire Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk

03-02-2021, 01:35 PM	#13
tradtiger Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Austin Hunt In: Lee Co., Granger	Y'all are shooting nicely! Briar: Hadn't thought of just cutting a thin piece of duct tape to use as a turbulator. I might try that. Heck, my whole hunting set up is based pretty much on principles that Dr. Ashby outlined. (600 grain arrow, with close to 30% FOC, amounting to about 9 GPI)

03-02-2021, 07:54 PM	#16
tradtiger Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Austin Hunt In: Lee Co., Granger	Here's Day 2: 1 hit, no measure. Close with shots 1 and 4. Sent from my SM-J337V using Tapatalk

03-03-2021, 02:18 PM	#19
TXRebel Eight Point Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Texas Hunt In: Searching	^^^Nice shooting, gentlemen ^^^^^^ Day 1

03-03-2021, 05:16 PM	#20
Grand Passage Eight Point Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Boerne Hunt In: Hill Country & South TX	Day 2 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-03-2021, 09:40 PM	#22
DRT Pope & Young Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Hunt In: Jones County and Missouri	Ellis is a very generous lineman. But even I would say that one is touching. Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk

03-04-2021, 12:58 AM	#23
tradtiger Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Austin Hunt In: Lee Co., Granger	Oh, yeah. That's 3 hits, Briar. Very nice. And you obliterated the tie-breaker spot. So, it will take 4 hits to beat you.

03-04-2021, 09:41 AM	#24
Briar Friar Pope & Young Join Date: May 2015	Okey Dokey

03-04-2021, 01:13 PM	#25
TXRebel Eight Point Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Texas Hunt In: Searching	Day 2

03-04-2021, 08:08 PM	#26
tradtiger Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Austin Hunt In: Lee Co., Granger	Day 3: 2 hits Sent from my SM-J337V using Tapatalk

03-05-2021, 03:16 PM	#27
tradtiger Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Austin Hunt In: Lee Co., Granger	Day 4: 2 hits. First and 4th shots good; 2nd and 3rd not so much. Briar Friar leads. Sent from my SM-J337V using Tapatalk

03-06-2021, 09:32 AM	#28
Grand Passage Eight Point Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Boerne Hunt In: Hill Country & South TX	Shot twice yesterday since I knew I wouldn’t have an opportunity to shoot today. Wind yesterday afternoon wasn’t helping, but I did center punch the aiming dot. Round 3 Round 4 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-06-2021, 09:49 AM	#29
Briar Friar Pope & Young Join Date: May 2015	Dang good shooting Peoples. I havent shot in two days...Ill finish out the week later. I “installed” some turbulators on my other arrows and moved the existing turbulator away from the fletchings by a half inch or so. Im sooper excited for the virgin run!

03-06-2021, 01:01 PM	#30
tradtiger Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Austin Hunt In: Lee Co., Granger	Excellent shooting, GP! And, while not specifically stated, there is precedent for shooting another day's round in advance. In other words, your 4-hit round, with the punched dot, counts and leads. If we get another one similar, I'll probably consider completeness of arrows in the T (as opposed to cutting lines). Carry on.

03-07-2021, 10:22 AM	#32
tradtiger Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Austin Hunt In: Lee Co., Granger	Good shooting y'all. Congrats to Grand Passage! Your call for week 10. Sent from my SM-J337V using Tapatalk

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