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Old 01-20-2022, 03:47 PM   #1
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Okay, so to make my long story as short as possible - I was trying to get a new TRX a few months ago. I was going to trade my Jeep Trackhawk. When the dealer that was going to buy my vehicle looked it up, they said it was just sold at an auction and listed for sale and Grubbs Infiniti in DFW. I told them that wasn't possible. It was sitting in the parking garage and I just drove it to work.

After tons of work with the TX DMV, FL DMV and Tarrant Co Autotask force, we were able to get things resolved for the most part. Tarrant Co Autotask force found the stolen vehicle with my cloned vin and I turned in all the documents to the the TX DMV to reclaim me vehicle history.

But now their is still a problem. When I pull an auto check, the mileage listed is 28k. My vehicles actual mileage is 55K. The vehicle still shows being bought and sold in FL which it never was. but shows me again as the current owner. How do I explain all this to a dealer? What else can be done so that the carfax reflects the actual history of the car? Will I ever be able to get rid of this vehicle for fair market value?

Its a cluster and I just want to get a different ride! The only thing I can think of is selling it to a shady dealer that would have some way of rolling back the odo to match the carfax! But I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

Any suggestions or help from the TBH braintrust?

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Old 01-20-2022, 04:23 PM   #2
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Just roll with it...go get what you want and don’t bring anything to the table that’s not needed. The shady dealer idea is a poor one...
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Old 01-20-2022, 04:27 PM   #3
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Just roll with it...go get what you want and donít bring anything to the table thatís not needed. The shady dealer idea is a poor one...
When they run a carfax they will see 28k miles and my vehicle is double that. What should my response be?

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Old 01-20-2022, 04:34 PM   #5
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Old 01-20-2022, 04:42 PM   #6
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When they run a carfax they will see 28k miles and my vehicle is double that. What should my response be?

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Do you have documentation from the Auto task force and from the DMVs?
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Old 01-20-2022, 04:43 PM   #7
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Do you have documentation from the Auto task force and from the DMVs?
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Old 01-20-2022, 04:45 PM   #8
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When they run a carfax they will see 28k miles and my vehicle is double that. What should my response be?

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You could tell them you just got back from a long road trip. lol
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Old 01-20-2022, 04:47 PM   #9
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If you have all,the documentation call carfax, send them the info and they can remove items off the report. I had a oil change place put the wrong mileage on a truck I had and it showed as a discrepancy on the report. Luckily I still had the inspection sticker that was correct on it and sent them that and they removed the mileage alert. Ran the report again and everything was good to go when it got traded.
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You could tell them you just got back from a long road trip. lol
Driven the country cost to cost 4 times in the last 6 months.

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Make sure youíve got that documentation with you when you go to the dealership, and keep copies of it all even if you trade it.
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Driven the country cost to cost 4 times in the last 6 months.

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If you got over 9 mpg you were doing it wrong👍😃
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If you have all,the documentation call carfax, send them the info and they can remove items off the report. I had a oil change place put the wrong mileage on a truck I had and it showed as a discrepancy on the report. Luckily I still had the inspection sticker that was correct on it and sent them that and they removed the mileage alert. Ran the report again and everything was good to go when it got traded.
I've talked to them via email. They don't have a number posted and wouldn't give me a number to call. They said they won't change anything without it coming from a dmv (as it relates to still showing 1 buy/sell in fl). The last mileage reported is based on the one buy/sell from Florida. Florida updated a bunch of items but that one is still there. Not sure why it wasn't removed and the other 3 times it was sold in auction were. FL dmv says they've talked with tx and based on thier records with tx everything is filed correctly.

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Old 01-20-2022, 04:55 PM   #14
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If you got over 9 mpg you were doing it wrong
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Old 01-20-2022, 04:56 PM   #15
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I don't think it will be an issue since your odometer shows more than the carfax. Now if the odometer showed less than the carfax flags might fly.
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I don't think it will be an issue since your odometer shows more than the carfax. Now if the odometer showed less than the carfax flags might fly.
Would you pay fair market value for a vehicle that had double the milage of a car Fax report? And I mean fair market based on obo not carfax report.

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Old 01-20-2022, 05:36 PM   #17
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Would you pay fair market value for a vehicle that had double the milage of a car Fax report? And I mean fair market based on obo not carfax report.

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As long as there was proof of maintenance history, I wouldnít hesitate.
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Old 01-20-2022, 05:40 PM   #18
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CALL CARFAX AT 1-866-655-5362 explain the issue most can be fixed on their end in 1 day
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Old 01-20-2022, 05:48 PM   #19
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I don’t think anyone cares about if it has more miles than it says. Not every oil change place or whatever reports maintenance. And no one cares where it was bought. Is someone giving you grief trading it in now that things are resolved? Have you tried? I’d see if there was an issue first.
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Put it up on jack stands, put it in reverse and place a brick on the gas peddle. Keep the rpms above 2K. Check it every couple days.

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When you go to get it inspected, the mileage will be updated to reflect the actual mileage.
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Old 01-20-2022, 07:32 PM   #22
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Put it up on jack stands, put it in reverse and place a brick on the gas peddle. Keep the rpms above 2K. Check it every couple days.

Ymmv
If that did work it'd take about 75 days and 5 oil changes and 9k in gas to get it to match

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Old 01-20-2022, 08:32 PM   #23
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Carfax fixed a mileage issue on my truck with just a couple emails. It actually was a lot easier than I expected it to be.

I suspect they have to deal with that a lot. Mine was just an inspection tech who was too lazy to go back to my truck and look at the odometer instead he put 150,000 miles in the computer when it actually had around 54,000.
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I've talked to them via email. They don't have a number posted and wouldn't give me a number to call. They said they won't change anything without it coming from a dmv (as it relates to still showing 1 buy/sell in fl). The last mileage reported is based on the one buy/sell from Florida. Florida updated a bunch of items but that one is still there. Not sure why it wasn't removed and the other 3 times it was sold in auction were. FL dmv says they've talked with tx and based on thier records with tx everything is filed correctly.

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Itís really is crap that everything is moving to where you canít talk to a person anymore. My issue was in 2014 and I called the about it, so I guess theyíve gone completely online support now. Possible to sell it to an individual and turn over paperwork of whatís happened? Dealers will low ball you and then put the legwork into getting the issue fixed to sell for top dollar, so I know thatís an issue.
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It shows less mileage than what’s on the dash, there won’t be any issues. If it was more than what’s on the dash they may look into it a little further. But the last truck I sold had 120000 on the dash and car fax had it at an estimated 100k if I recall correctly. The salesman said “they’re always wrong anyways”
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Put it up on jack stands, put it in reverse and place a brick on the gas peddle. Keep the rpms above 2K. Check it every couple days.

Ymmv

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How much do you want for the trackhawk? I'm in the market soon and that's on my list of owns before i die
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How much do you want for the trackhawk? I'm in the market soon and that's on my list of owns before i die
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Just roll with it...go get what you want and donít bring anything to the table thatís not needed. The shady dealer idea is a poor one...
Agree. Carfax is like internet Doctors. Non valid
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It's probably going to need a new set of brakes before long.
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