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JBJTX81 · 01-20-2022, 03:47 PM

Okay, so to make my long story as short as possible - I was trying to get a new TRX a few months ago. I was going to trade my Jeep Trackhawk. When the dealer that was going to buy my vehicle looked it up, they said it was just sold at an auction and listed for sale and Grubbs Infiniti in DFW. I told them that wasn't possible. It was sitting in the parking garage and I just drove it to work.

After tons of work with the TX DMV, FL DMV and Tarrant Co Autotask force, we were able to get things resolved for the most part. Tarrant Co Autotask force found the stolen vehicle with my cloned vin and I turned in all the documents to the the TX DMV to reclaim me vehicle history.

But now their is still a problem. When I pull an auto check, the mileage listed is 28k. My vehicles actual mileage is 55K. The vehicle still shows being bought and sold in FL which it never was. but shows me again as the current owner. How do I explain all this to a dealer? What else can be done so that the carfax reflects the actual history of the car? Will I ever be able to get rid of this vehicle for fair market value?

Its a cluster and I just want to get a different ride! The only thing I can think of is selling it to a shady dealer that would have some way of rolling back the odo to match the carfax! But I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

Any suggestions or help from the TBH braintrust?

Kingfisher789 · 01-20-2022, 04:23 PM

Just roll with it...go get what you want and don’t bring anything to the table that’s not needed. The shady dealer idea is a poor one...

JBJTX81 · 01-20-2022, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingfisher789

Just roll with it...go get what you want and don’t bring anything to the table that’s not needed. The shady dealer idea is a poor one...

When they run a carfax they will see 28k miles and my vehicle is double that. What should my response be?

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Blownshelby · 01-20-2022, 04:31 PM

What year is your Hawk?

JBJTX81 · 01-20-2022, 04:34 PM

2018

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91cavgt · 01-20-2022, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JBJTX81

When they run a carfax they will see 28k miles and my vehicle is double that. What should my response be?

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Do you have documentation from the Auto task force and from the DMVs?

JBJTX81 · 01-20-2022, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 91cavgt

Do you have documentation from the Auto task force and from the DMVs?

Yup...lots

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justletmein · 01-20-2022, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JBJTX81

When they run a carfax they will see 28k miles and my vehicle is double that. What should my response be?

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You could tell them you just got back from a long road trip. lol

KDinTX · 01-20-2022, 04:47 PM

If you have all,the documentation call carfax, send them the info and they can remove items off the report. I had a oil change place put the wrong mileage on a truck I had and it showed as a discrepancy on the report. Luckily I still had the inspection sticker that was correct on it and sent them that and they removed the mileage alert. Ran the report again and everything was good to go when it got traded.

JBJTX81 · 01-20-2022, 04:47 PM

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You could tell them you just got back from a long road trip. lol

Driven the country cost to cost 4 times in the last 6 months.

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91cavgt · 01-20-2022, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JBJTX81

Yup...lots

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Make sure you’ve got that documentation with you when you go to the dealership, and keep copies of it all even if you trade it.

Blownshelby · 01-20-2022, 04:53 PM

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Driven the country cost to cost 4 times in the last 6 months.

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If you got over 9 mpg you were doing it wrong👍😃

JBJTX81 · 01-20-2022, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KDinTX

If you have all,the documentation call carfax, send them the info and they can remove items off the report. I had a oil change place put the wrong mileage on a truck I had and it showed as a discrepancy on the report. Luckily I still had the inspection sticker that was correct on it and sent them that and they removed the mileage alert. Ran the report again and everything was good to go when it got traded.

I've talked to them via email. They don't have a number posted and wouldn't give me a number to call. They said they won't change anything without it coming from a dmv (as it relates to still showing 1 buy/sell in fl). The last mileage reported is based on the one buy/sell from Florida. Florida updated a bunch of items but that one is still there. Not sure why it wasn't removed and the other 3 times it was sold in auction were. FL dmv says they've talked with tx and based on thier records with tx everything is filed correctly.

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JBJTX81 · 01-20-2022, 04:55 PM

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If you got over 9 mpg you were doing it wrong

11. Most mountain roads were too twisty...lol

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Old Bald Guy · 01-20-2022, 04:56 PM

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When they run a carfax they will see 28k miles and my vehicle is double that. What should my response be?

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I don't think it will be an issue since your odometer shows more than the carfax. Now if the odometer showed less than the carfax flags might fly.

JBJTX81 · 01-20-2022, 05:00 PM

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I don't think it will be an issue since your odometer shows more than the carfax. Now if the odometer showed less than the carfax flags might fly.

Would you pay fair market value for a vehicle that had double the milage of a car Fax report? And I mean fair market based on obo not carfax report.

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91cavgt · 01-20-2022, 05:36 PM

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Would you pay fair market value for a vehicle that had double the milage of a car Fax report? And I mean fair market based on obo not carfax report.

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As long as there was proof of maintenance history, I wouldn’t hesitate.

wdixon · 01-20-2022, 05:40 PM

CALL CARFAX AT 1-866-655-5362 explain the issue most can be fixed on their end in 1 day

Rubberdown · 01-20-2022, 05:48 PM

I don’t think anyone cares about if it has more miles than it says. Not every oil change place or whatever reports maintenance. And no one cares where it was bought. Is someone giving you grief trading it in now that things are resolved? Have you tried? I’d see if there was an issue first.

Traildust · 01-20-2022, 06:27 PM

Put it up on jack stands, put it in reverse and place a brick on the gas peddle. Keep the rpms above 2K. Check it every couple days.

Ymmv

Texas Grown · 01-20-2022, 07:03 PM

When you go to get it inspected, the mileage will be updated to reflect the actual mileage.

JBJTX81 · 01-20-2022, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Traildust

Put it up on jack stands, put it in reverse and place a brick on the gas peddle. Keep the rpms above 2K. Check it every couple days.

Ymmv

If that did work it'd take about 75 days and 5 oil changes and 9k in gas to get it to match

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adam_p · 01-20-2022, 08:32 PM

Carfax fixed a mileage issue on my truck with just a couple emails. It actually was a lot easier than I expected it to be.

I suspect they have to deal with that a lot. Mine was just an inspection tech who was too lazy to go back to my truck and look at the odometer instead he put 150,000 miles in the computer when it actually had around 54,000.

JBJTX81 · 01-21-2022, 10:21 AM

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CALL CARFAX AT 1-866-655-5362 explain the issue most can be fixed on their end in 1 day

That 866 number is the holiday inn

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wdixon · 01-21-2022, 04:13 PM

servicenetworksupport@carfax.com

KDinTX · 01-21-2022, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JBJTX81

I've talked to them via email. They don't have a number posted and wouldn't give me a number to call. They said they won't change anything without it coming from a dmv (as it relates to still showing 1 buy/sell in fl). The last mileage reported is based on the one buy/sell from Florida. Florida updated a bunch of items but that one is still there. Not sure why it wasn't removed and the other 3 times it was sold in auction were. FL dmv says they've talked with tx and based on thier records with tx everything is filed correctly.

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It’s really is crap that everything is moving to where you can’t talk to a person anymore. My issue was in 2014 and I called the about it, so I guess they’ve gone completely online support now. Possible to sell it to an individual and turn over paperwork of what’s happened? Dealers will low ball you and then put the legwork into getting the issue fixed to sell for top dollar, so I know that’s an issue.

Mac · 01-21-2022, 04:28 PM

It shows less mileage than what’s on the dash, there won’t be any issues. If it was more than what’s on the dash they may look into it a little further. But the last truck I sold had 120000 on the dash and car fax had it at an estimated 100k if I recall correctly. The salesman said “they’re always wrong anyways”

bobc · 01-21-2022, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Traildust

Put it up on jack stands, put it in reverse and place a brick on the gas peddle. Keep the rpms above 2K. Check it every couple days.

Ymmv

That didn’t work out too well for Ferris Bueler

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kingranch · 01-21-2022, 07:01 PM

How much do you want for the trackhawk? I'm in the market soon and that's on my list of owns before i die

JBJTX81 · 01-21-2022, 07:17 PM

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How much do you want for the trackhawk? I'm in the market soon and that's on my list of owns before i die

72500
In perfect shape
55k mi
New breaks
Borla exhaust
Jl sub
Dark tint

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JBJTX81 · 01-21-2022, 07:22 PM

305 wide low profile tires
0-60 3.3
Qtr mi 11.5

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Big Lee · 01-21-2022, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingfisher789

Just roll with it...go get what you want and don’t bring anything to the table that’s not needed. The shady dealer idea is a poor one...

Agree. Carfax is like internet Doctors. Non valid

skulleton · 01-21-2022, 07:25 PM

It's probably going to need a new set of brakes before long.

JBJTX81 · 01-21-2022, 07:27 PM

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It's probably going to need a new set of brakes before long.

Read post 30

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JBJTX81 · 01-21-2022, 07:29 PM

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New drilled rotors that are upgrade from factory slotted

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01-20-2022, 03:47 PM	#1
JBJTX81 Ten Point Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Wise Co Hunt In: Where the wife gives me permission to go.	Cloned VIN - Need help from the auto industry experts. Okay, so to make my long story as short as possible - I was trying to get a new TRX a few months ago. I was going to trade my Jeep Trackhawk. When the dealer that was going to buy my vehicle looked it up, they said it was just sold at an auction and listed for sale and Grubbs Infiniti in DFW. I told them that wasn't possible. It was sitting in the parking garage and I just drove it to work. After tons of work with the TX DMV, FL DMV and Tarrant Co Autotask force, we were able to get things resolved for the most part. Tarrant Co Autotask force found the stolen vehicle with my cloned vin and I turned in all the documents to the the TX DMV to reclaim me vehicle history. But now their is still a problem. When I pull an auto check, the mileage listed is 28k. My vehicles actual mileage is 55K. The vehicle still shows being bought and sold in FL which it never was. but shows me again as the current owner. How do I explain all this to a dealer? What else can be done so that the carfax reflects the actual history of the car? Will I ever be able to get rid of this vehicle for fair market value? Its a cluster and I just want to get a different ride! The only thing I can think of is selling it to a shady dealer that would have some way of rolling back the odo to match the carfax! But I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Any suggestions or help from the TBH braintrust? Last edited by JBJTX81; 01-20-2022 at 04:46 PM.

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01-20-2022, 04:23 PM	#2
Kingfisher789 Ten Point Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Austin. Jim Ned Creek Hunt In: Tivydale. Nix. Brownwood	Just roll with it...go get what you want and don’t bring anything to the table that’s not needed. The shady dealer idea is a poor one...

01-20-2022, 04:31 PM	#4
Blownshelby Six Point Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Central Texas	What year is your Hawk?

01-20-2022, 04:34 PM	#5
JBJTX81 Ten Point Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Wise Co Hunt In: Where the wife gives me permission to go.	2018 Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk

01-20-2022, 04:47 PM	#9
KDinTX Ten Point Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Hewitt Hunt In: Bosque Co., Henderson Co.	If you have all,the documentation call carfax, send them the info and they can remove items off the report. I had a oil change place put the wrong mileage on a truck I had and it showed as a discrepancy on the report. Luckily I still had the inspection sticker that was correct on it and sent them that and they removed the mileage alert. Ran the report again and everything was good to go when it got traded.

01-20-2022, 05:40 PM	#18
wdixon Eight Point Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Yoakum Hunt In: Dewitt,Goliad co.	CALL CARFAX AT 1-866-655-5362 explain the issue most can be fixed on their end in 1 day

01-20-2022, 05:48 PM	#19
Rubberdown Ten Point Join Date: May 2015 Location: Houston	I don’t think anyone cares about if it has more miles than it says. Not every oil change place or whatever reports maintenance. And no one cares where it was bought. Is someone giving you grief trading it in now that things are resolved? Have you tried? I’d see if there was an issue first.

01-20-2022, 06:27 PM	#20
Traildust Pope & Young Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alvin, Texas Hunt In: Pow Pow!	Put it up on jack stands, put it in reverse and place a brick on the gas peddle. Keep the rpms above 2K. Check it every couple days. Ymmv

01-20-2022, 07:03 PM	#21
Texas Grown Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burleson, Texas Hunt In: Kick CoViD's tail!	When you go to get it inspected, the mileage will be updated to reflect the actual mileage.

01-20-2022, 08:32 PM	#23
adam_p Ten Point Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Pilot Point Hunt In: Cooke, Denton, Oklahoma	Carfax fixed a mileage issue on my truck with just a couple emails. It actually was a lot easier than I expected it to be. I suspect they have to deal with that a lot. Mine was just an inspection tech who was too lazy to go back to my truck and look at the odometer instead he put 150,000 miles in the computer when it actually had around 54,000.

01-21-2022, 04:13 PM	#25
wdixon Eight Point Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Yoakum Hunt In: Dewitt,Goliad co.	servicenetworksupport@carfax.com

01-21-2022, 04:28 PM	#27
Mac Ten Point Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Antonio Hunt In: Edwards, Kendall	It shows less mileage than what’s on the dash, there won’t be any issues. If it was more than what’s on the dash they may look into it a little further. But the last truck I sold had 120000 on the dash and car fax had it at an estimated 100k if I recall correctly. The salesman said “they’re always wrong anyways”

01-21-2022, 07:01 PM	#29
kingranch Ten Point Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: lakeway	How much do you want for the trackhawk? I'm in the market soon and that's on my list of owns before i die

01-21-2022, 07:22 PM	#31
JBJTX81 Ten Point Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Wise Co Hunt In: Where the wife gives me permission to go.	305 wide low profile tires 0-60 3.3 Qtr mi 11.5 Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk

01-21-2022, 07:25 PM	#33
skulleton Four Point Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Fort worth Hunt In: North Texas	It's probably going to need a new set of brakes before long.