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Death from Above · 01-13-2022, 08:27 AM

East Texas deer

Curious on age

slayr · 01-13-2022, 08:35 AM

Dead

Leon County Slayer · 01-13-2022, 08:39 AM

Young, but fully aged

Deerguy · 01-13-2022, 08:48 AM

3.5. dentine as wide as the enamel on the 4th tooth but not the others.

Sippy · 01-13-2022, 08:50 AM

Needs to be a view from the top.

Death from Above · 01-13-2022, 08:53 AM

Another pic

Sippy · 01-13-2022, 08:57 AM

3.5-4.5

rtp · 01-13-2022, 08:58 AM

3.5 in my book

AntlerCollector · 01-13-2022, 08:58 AM

3.5-3.8

GarGuy · 01-13-2022, 09:05 AM

I need to see his rack. I bet he was an 8pt judging from the teeth. Let's call him barely 4

Gumbo Man · 01-13-2022, 09:11 AM

Without history my money is on 4 1/2

Death from Above · 01-13-2022, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GarGuy

I need to see his rack. I bet he was an 8pt judging from the teeth. Let's call him barely 4

One measuring has him at 140 6/8

On the hoof i had him older and am kicking myself for putting a arrow in him

I thought he was a different deer that I had misjudged

Death from Above · 01-13-2022, 09:17 AM

I thought this was him…granted it is tough to get mature deer pics in ET

GarGuy · 01-13-2022, 09:35 AM

He is nice. The deer in that pic sure looks mature. It's very possible he us older than those teeth show. All our known age mature bucks have teeth better than known age.

kruppa24 · 01-13-2022, 09:39 AM

4

ttaxidermy · 01-13-2022, 09:40 AM

3-5

txtimetravler · 01-13-2022, 09:50 AM

About 4.

But the rings on his ears and the dark hocks say 5-6.

Burnadell · 01-13-2022, 09:56 AM

Nice buck, no matter the age!

GarGuy · 01-13-2022, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burnadell

Nice buck, no matter the age!

That was my point. Dang nice regardless of teeth.

Snowflake Killa · 01-13-2022, 09:59 AM

Tooth wear means absolutely nothing in east Texas. We kill 6 year old deer that we know for a fact are 6 and the teeth look like that. Congratulations on hell of a deer.

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RMW · 01-13-2022, 10:06 AM

Book says 3, deer probably older

SaltwaterSlick · 01-13-2022, 10:06 AM

"age the teeth"... by that question in your original post, he's a classic 3 1/2 year old... but like some have said may or may not be accurate... Only 2 age deer can absolutely be aged 100%... Fawn and 1 1/2 year old... Fawns only have 5 teeth, and a yearling has a 3-cusped 4th tooth... all other age classes are judged by wear... All deer do not eat the same food/chew the same way, etc... many variables. However teeth aging a specific herd is still a good management tool especially if you can kill known aged deer and extract their jawbones as a model for YOUR herd. One area/herd will be pretty consistent.

Death from Above · 01-13-2022, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowflake Killa

Tooth wear means absolutely nothing in east Texas. We kill 6 year old deer that we know for a fact are 6 and the teeth look like that. Congratulations on hell of a deer.

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I think this what I an dealing with.

A deer that browses for its life versus months on end of grinding corn will wear a bit different…

We are really trying to shoot some older deer in the 6.5 and up age bracket.

What we are finding is that ET deer in that age are huge monsters…and does that age are impossible to kill lol

Snowflake Killa · 01-13-2022, 10:16 AM

Most all the deer we kill are 6 plus and tooth wear is a joke to me. We have to pull jaw bones from every deer and they vary so much. It's hard to go by body size too. We have 225 lb. deer that are 6 and 160 lb. deer that are 6. The best way is to know your deer from one deer to the next and keep a folder on them.

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muzzlebrake · 01-13-2022, 10:30 AM

I always go by the ear tags to know for certain

MdStrutnRut · 01-13-2022, 10:32 AM

I used to do some deer aging for MD's Wildlife Administration MANY YEARS back(I'm NOT a biologist) and still have friends that swing by and do same for the state,. They age fawn, 1-1/2, older than 1-1/2 for their purposes. Fawn and 1-1/2 are almost 100% after that it's an educated guess depending on jaw/teeth alignment and other factors. Book would say 3-1/2 on yours like already said but diet and soil type do make a difference. Send in front incisor if you still have it for a better guess and yes they also can be off a year or two as I've witnessed from trailcam pics of same deer for multiple years but more accurate than web experts LOL

Chance Love · 01-13-2022, 10:34 AM

Don't beat yourself up over it. Most likely your field guess is more accurate than the teeth. Going by the out-dated, inaccurate, bogus teeth aging book/chart...most will say that deer was 3 or 4.

GarGuy · 01-13-2022, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowflake Killa

Most all the deer we kill are 6 plus and tooth wear is a joke to me. We have to pull jaw bones from every deer and they vary so much. It's hard to go by body size too. We have 225 lb. deer that are 6 and 160 lb. deer that are 6. The best way is to know your deer from one deer to the next and keep a folder on them.

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Virtually every year, I post examples of this.

GarGuy · 01-13-2022, 10:43 AM

I have given Top Of Texas a lot of grief over this topic. Truth is I respect him and understand where he is coming from. In recent years, he has taken the stance that noone should beat themselves or others up over a dead deers teeth. He is right on that.

He has also stated that a deer has not reached maximum antler growth unless he has at least one dished molar. I think that's right as well, however that can easily be at 9 or 10 years old in East Tx.

ArcherAG 93 · 01-13-2022, 10:44 AM

He's as old has he's gonna get. Congrats on a great deer!

01-13-2022, 08:27 AM	#1
Death from Above Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Henderson, Texas	Age this ones teeth please. East Texas deer Curious on age Attached Images

01-13-2022, 08:53 AM	#6
Death from Above Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Henderson, Texas	Another pic Attached Images

01-13-2022, 09:17 AM	#13
Death from Above Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Henderson, Texas	I thought this was him…granted it is tough to get mature deer pics in ET Attached Images

01-13-2022, 10:32 AM	#26
MdStrutnRut Four Point Join Date: Dec 2021	I used to do some deer aging for MD's Wildlife Administration MANY YEARS back(I'm NOT a biologist) and still have friends that swing by and do same for the state,. They age fawn, 1-1/2, older than 1-1/2 for their purposes. Fawn and 1-1/2 are almost 100% after that it's an educated guess depending on jaw/teeth alignment and other factors. Book would say 3-1/2 on yours like already said but diet and soil type do make a difference. Send in front incisor if you still have it for a better guess and yes they also can be off a year or two as I've witnessed from trailcam pics of same deer for multiple years but more accurate than web experts LOL Last edited by MdStrutnRut; 01-13-2022 at 10:33 AM. Reason: fix

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01-13-2022, 08:35 AM	#2
slayr Ten Point Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Conroe Hunt In: Hill Country	Dead

01-13-2022, 08:39 AM	#3
Leon County Slayer Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Houston Hunt In: Camo (Leon County) - Knifemaker<><	Young, but fully aged

01-13-2022, 08:48 AM	#4
Deerguy Ten Point Join Date: Oct 2014	3.5. dentine as wide as the enamel on the 4th tooth but not the others.

01-13-2022, 08:50 AM	#5
Sippy Pope & Young Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tyler Hunt In: Burnet, Smith, Eastland	Needs to be a view from the top.

01-13-2022, 08:57 AM	#7
Sippy Pope & Young Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tyler Hunt In: Burnet, Smith, Eastland	3.5-4.5

01-13-2022, 08:58 AM	#8
rtp Pope & Young Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Fulshear, Texas Hunt In: open range	3.5 in my book

01-13-2022, 08:58 AM	#9
AntlerCollector Pope & Young Join Date: Apr 2014 Hunt In: Votaw, Del Rio, Eldorado, Bon Wier	3.5-3.8

01-13-2022, 09:05 AM	#10
GarGuy Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2011	I need to see his rack. I bet he was an 8pt judging from the teeth. Let's call him barely 4

01-13-2022, 09:11 AM	#11
Gumbo Man Ten Point Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Livingston Texas Hunt In: Onalaska Texas	Without history my money is on 4 1/2

01-13-2022, 09:35 AM	#14
GarGuy Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2011	He is nice. The deer in that pic sure looks mature. It's very possible he us older than those teeth show. All our known age mature bucks have teeth better than known age.

01-13-2022, 09:40 AM	#16
ttaxidermy Pope & Young Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brazoria county Hunt In: Brady,McCulloch Cnty, Brazoria cnty, South Africa, Namibia Nebraska	3-5

01-13-2022, 09:39 AM	#15
kruppa24 Pope & Young Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: gholson, tx Hunt In: currently looking	4

01-13-2022, 09:50 AM	#17
txtimetravler Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tx Hunt In: Wilco	About 4. But the rings on his ears and the dark hocks say 5-6.

01-13-2022, 09:56 AM	#18
Burnadell Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: White Oak Hunt In: Bee County	Nice buck, no matter the age!

01-13-2022, 09:59 AM	#20
Snowflake Killa Pope & Young Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Shepherd Hunt In: East Texas	Tooth wear means absolutely nothing in east Texas. We kill 6 year old deer that we know for a fact are 6 and the teeth look like that. Congratulations on hell of a deer. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk

01-13-2022, 10:06 AM	#21
RMW Pope & Young Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Burr Hunt In: Down South	Book says 3, deer probably older

01-13-2022, 10:06 AM	#22
SaltwaterSlick Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006	"age the teeth"... by that question in your original post, he's a classic 3 1/2 year old... but like some have said may or may not be accurate... Only 2 age deer can absolutely be aged 100%... Fawn and 1 1/2 year old... Fawns only have 5 teeth, and a yearling has a 3-cusped 4th tooth... all other age classes are judged by wear... All deer do not eat the same food/chew the same way, etc... many variables. However teeth aging a specific herd is still a good management tool especially if you can kill known aged deer and extract their jawbones as a model for YOUR herd. One area/herd will be pretty consistent.

01-13-2022, 10:16 AM	#24
Snowflake Killa Pope & Young Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Shepherd Hunt In: East Texas	Most all the deer we kill are 6 plus and tooth wear is a joke to me. We have to pull jaw bones from every deer and they vary so much. It's hard to go by body size too. We have 225 lb. deer that are 6 and 160 lb. deer that are 6. The best way is to know your deer from one deer to the next and keep a folder on them. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk

01-13-2022, 10:30 AM	#25
muzzlebrake Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Euless, Texas Hunt In: Sterling County	I always go by the ear tags to know for certain

01-13-2022, 10:34 AM	#27
Chance Love Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leander, Texas Hunt In: Hill Country and South Texas	Don't beat yourself up over it. Most likely your field guess is more accurate than the teeth. Going by the out-dated, inaccurate, bogus teeth aging book/chart...most will say that deer was 3 or 4.

01-13-2022, 10:43 AM	#29
GarGuy Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2011	I have given Top Of Texas a lot of grief over this topic. Truth is I respect him and understand where he is coming from. In recent years, he has taken the stance that noone should beat themselves or others up over a dead deers teeth. He is right on that. He has also stated that a deer has not reached maximum antler growth unless he has at least one dished molar. I think that's right as well, however that can easily be at 9 or 10 years old in East Tx.

01-13-2022, 10:44 AM	#30
ArcherAG 93 Ten Point Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lindale, Texas	He's as old has he's gonna get. Congrats on a great deer!