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Old 06-29-2020, 08:57 AM   #1
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Found this state by state report of balance out vs. balance in with regard to federal taxes.

https://rockinst.org/issue-areas/fis...yments-portal/

Quite a few points to be made from this data, but I'll start with this one:
Folks freak out about federal dollars when secession is mentioned.

Going its own way would cost Texas 5%. We'd keep our money in Texas, cut 5% off of what we "get back." Do you think the federal machine eats up more than 5% to administer giving us our money back?

We could have roughly equal military, social services, etc. It would only take a 5% cut from what we already pay.
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Old 06-29-2020, 12:18 PM   #2
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Look at the electrical grid. We need significantly more infrastructure to power Texas reliably. How much natural gas leaves Texas vs what is needed?

I'd be curious how many military members come from Texas vs other states.

Not saying you're wrong, but there is far more to it than a 5% variance in receipts and expenditures.
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Old 06-29-2020, 12:29 PM   #3
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Look at the electrical grid. We need significantly more infrastructure to power Texas reliably. How much natural gas leaves Texas vs what is needed?

I'd be curious how many military members come from Texas vs other states.

Not saying you're wrong, but there is far more to it than a 5% variance in receipts and expenditures.
Mostly this. I mean you could simply eliminate unnecessary handout/welfare programs and save way more than the 5%, BUT, its not that simple.

Remember what happened the last time a state (or group of states) decided to leave the union?
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Old 06-29-2020, 12:56 PM   #4
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Look at the electrical grid. We need significantly more infrastructure to power Texas reliably. How much natural gas leaves Texas vs what is needed?

I'd be curious how many military members come from Texas vs other states.

Not saying you're wrong, but there is far more to it than a 5% variance in receipts and expenditures.
Isn't Texas the only state in the US with its own entire electrical grid powered from within?
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Old 06-29-2020, 12:58 PM   #5
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How much will the Texas military cost?
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Old 06-29-2020, 01:06 PM   #6
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How much will the Texas military cost?
I'm feeling like maybe we can cut the costs back a little bit by not blowing up countries on the other side of the world. Just a hunch.
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Old 06-29-2020, 01:08 PM   #7
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United we stand divided we fall.
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Old 06-29-2020, 01:12 PM   #8
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United we stand divided we fall.
Well it is starting to look like united we fall also. What then?
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Old 06-29-2020, 01:26 PM   #9
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Well it is starting to look like united we fall also. What then?
I think we will see a huge turnout come November but in the event Trump was to lose, well let's cross that bridge when we get there.
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Old 06-29-2020, 04:29 PM   #10
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Isn't Texas the only state in the US with its own entire electrical grid powered from within?
Sort of. Will try to keep the explanation simple. All electrical grids in North America operate at ~60 hertz. However, Texas 60 hertz is different from the USA 60 hertz, so much so that when Texas ties into the US power grids, an ACDC conversion station is required, which fixes the hertz variance and marries the systems up. This is a super simplified explanation, but generally is what's happening.

Texas 60 hertz actually matches Mexico's 60 hertz far more closely.
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Old 06-29-2020, 09:10 PM   #11
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Found this state by state report of balance out vs. balance in with regard to federal taxes.

https://rockinst.org/issue-areas/fis...yments-portal/

Quite a few points to be made from this data, but I'll start with this one:
Folks freak out about federal dollars when secession is mentioned.

Going its own way would cost Texas 5%. We'd keep our money in Texas, cut 5% off of what we "get back." Do you think the federal machine eats up more than 5% to administer giving us our money back?

We could have roughly equal military, social services, etc. It would only take a 5% cut from what we already pay.
Another way to think about it is Back the USA, instead of a pipe dream. Be an American first, nothing wrong with being proud of being a Texan, but this is the United States of America.
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Old 06-30-2020, 09:35 AM   #12
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But is it truly the UNITED States of America anymore? Historically this country has been bound by common ideals and beliefs that transcended the states. In the last 10 to 15 years the US has slowly begun to evolve into arguably 3 separate regions (East and West coast plus Middle America). In the last 4 years this evolution has increased rapidly and the argument could be made that we are fast approaching a state of "irreconcilable differences".
What do you do when the ruling class is diametrically opposed to the beliefs and will of the governed? I'm afraid we are a lot closer to the end of the Republic than the vast majority of the population realizes.
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Old 07-01-2020, 08:12 PM   #13
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Give em both coasts and build a wall around austin instead of mexico,It Would work
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