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Old 06-28-2020, 06:58 PM   #1
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Has anyone used a 45-70 on a Nilgai? I see outfitters recommending 300mag or bigger.
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Old 06-28-2020, 07:01 PM   #2
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It should do the trick, but you would have to be pretty close.
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Old 06-28-2020, 07:17 PM   #3
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My favorite cartridge and rifle. I’d be comfortable up to 100yds with my guide gun. Not really sure what load I’d shoot, I bet any of the garret +p loads would do the trick nicely.
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Old 06-28-2020, 07:47 PM   #4
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Guys have killed Cape buffalo with a 45-70. I can’t imagine nilgai are tougher than that. I have killed a nilgai with bow so I know a 45-70 will work.
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Old 06-28-2020, 07:50 PM   #5
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Shot a Buffalo 1” high right between the eyes with one. He didn’t take a step.
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Old 06-28-2020, 08:46 PM   #6
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Plenty of gun. Be sure to let whoever you are hunting with know you plan on using it before hand though.
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Old 06-28-2020, 08:53 PM   #7
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A 45-70, is plenty gun for nilgai. Depending on what rifle or pistol you have, will determine how hot the 45-70 can be loaded. Even the milder 45-70 loads, are plenty for a nilgai, but the hotter loads for some of the stronger guns, would be very capable. Hotter 45-70 loads are close to 458 Win. Mag. loads.
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Old 06-28-2020, 09:15 PM   #8
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45-70 is what a lot of the buffalo were slaughtered with in the late 1800's. Should be plenty for Nilgai.

I've shot a Henry 45-70 and it's a magnificent weapon.
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Old 06-28-2020, 09:17 PM   #9
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45-70 will kill pretty much anything. You’ll be set
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Old 06-28-2020, 09:17 PM   #10
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Id recommend using a 350gr JSP or a heavy hardcast.


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Old 06-28-2020, 09:29 PM   #11
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Not all 45-70 are the same. Off-the-shelf-Sharps Trapdoor-safe rounds are much weaker (gentler, too, I shoot them on small hogs and does) than hotter factory rounds and well below hot hand loads.

If your gun can handle the hot loads like a Ruger 1895, then you have many options.
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Old 06-28-2020, 10:31 PM   #12
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Not all 45-70 are the same. Off-the-shelf-Sharps Trapdoor-safe rounds are much weaker (gentler, too, I shoot them on small hogs and does) than hotter factory rounds and well below hot hand loads.

If your gun can handle the hot loads like a Ruger 1895, then you have many options.
100% this ^^^

But the options are numerous.

If you do some range time, you can easily get comfortable at 150-200 yards.

I mean its gonna drop 4' but that's ok.
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Old 06-29-2020, 05:10 AM   #13
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Not all 45-70 are the same. Off-the-shelf-Sharps Trapdoor-safe rounds are much weaker (gentler, too, I shoot them on small hogs and does) than hotter factory rounds and well below hot hand loads.

If your gun can handle the hot loads like a Ruger 1895, then you have many options.
You mean like a Ruger #1 or #3 correct?
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Old 06-29-2020, 06:48 AM   #14
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You mean to tell me you can't shoot accurately out to 1000yds with a 45-70?

That guy on the movie Wind River made out like you could

Seriously though, I think 45-70 should do the trick on a nilgai
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:31 AM   #15
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45-70 should do very well just don't use a hollow point or the lever revolution stuff. stick with a jsp or a solid lead. I wouldn't use the cowboy action stuff either
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:56 AM   #16
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You mean to tell me you can't shoot accurately out to 1000yds with a 45-70?

That guy on the movie Wind River made out like you could

Seriously though, I think 45-70 should do the trick on a nilgai
Well depends on the shooter. It's going to have a lot of bullet drop, but they still seem to have plenty of energy left, way out there. I have read a lot from the late 1800s where they did shoot buffalo out to some very long ranges with 45-70s and larger calibers. I think the 45-70 was on the light end, but got the job done. I think they preferred calibers such as the 45-100 and 45-110. Then in mountains of Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia and I think Missouri, they used to set out bait for bears on one mountain, then sit up on another mountain, to try and shoot the bears. They would set up a ranges, I want to say upwards o 1700 yards, from what I read. But typically 800 to 1100+ yards. They did this as competition. Again the 45-70 was one of the smaller calibers used, but it was used.
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:30 AM   #17
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Lots of American bison were killed with 44-77’s, the most popular cartridge of the early Sharps rifle company. The 45-70 did see some use on the Buffalo fields and a 45-70 with a heavy cast bullet, even at black powder velocities like I shoot them, will shoot clean through a Buffalo longways, that being said, the buffalo hunters of the late 1870’s and 80’s were not necessarily concerned with ethical kills, and tracking a giant Buffalo over a prairie was not as painstaking a task as tracking them in thickets per say. BUT with a heavy hard cast blunt point bullet (with a Govt nose or meplat) I think 45-70 would work adequately for a Nilgai as long as you’re close.
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:40 AM   #18
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I went for nilgai once, the guides truck gun was an open sight 45-70
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:41 AM   #19
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10 inches of drop @200 yards
But some 350 grain + P loads should knock the you know what out of one
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:44 AM   #20
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45-70 should do very well just don't use a hollow point or the lever revolution stuff. stick with a jsp or a solid lead. I wouldn't use the cowboy action stuff either
Do you have any experience with the flex tip bullet from the leverevalution ammo?

My 1895 is minute of hog to 300 yards but I too question how it would perform on big tough game. I'm sure there are better bullets regarding terminal performance but I don't know of any that shoot better than the Hornady.

I do agree with above a heavy simi-jackected soft point of about 400 grains would be brutal.

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Old 06-29-2020, 09:32 AM   #21
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I think it would definitely take them down. I'd be worried about the range, though.
Most of the time, nilgai shots are long ... and quick.

FTR, I did shoot mine, at night, less than 100 yards, with a 6.8 SPC.
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Old 06-29-2020, 09:37 AM   #22
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Do you have any experience with the flex tip bullet from the leverevalution ammo?

My 1895 is minute of hog to 300 yards but I too question how it would perform on big tough game. I'm sure there are better bullets regarding terminal performance but I don't know of any that shoot better than the Hornady.

I do agree with above a heavy simi-jackected soft point of about 400 grains would be brutal.

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The bullets blow up on hogs at short range. they are really accurate but dot constructed well at all
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:04 AM   #23
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I think it would definitely take them down. I'd be worried about the range, though.
Most of the time, nilgai shots are long ... and quick.

FTR, I did shoot mine, at night, less than 100 yards, with a 6.8 SPC.
Any witnesses?
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:15 AM   #24
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I took mine down with a Ruger .375 no problem.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:18 AM   #25
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Any witnesses?
Nope. It was dark!
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:20 AM   #26
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Nope. It was dark!
Me and Chad heard it, so that counts I guess
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Old 06-30-2020, 07:01 AM   #27
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Don't overthink it. 45-70 is plenty for all but the biggest of critters.
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Old 06-30-2020, 07:44 AM   #28
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Been plenty of elephants taken with the old 45/70
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