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Old 07-12-2019, 02:14 PM   #1
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Had an AC guy out today and got a few estimates for different options on replacement system. Wondering what enveryones thoughts are as far as if hey may be somewhat high or not.

Currently have a 2006 model Frigidaire 3ton outside and Frigidaire air handler with electric heat. 1650 sq foot house in Bullard Texas with 0 shade.

Was quoted 3 & 3.5ton RUUD with electric or heat pump. Said I was borderline needing a 3.5 ton and I agree and thought it’s a bit undersized myself.

3 Ton or 3.5 ton with electric or heat, installed with new thermostat, wiring, electrical, copper tubing and setup. Ranged from $6,500 - $7,200. I was expecting more along the lines of $4500-$5500. Does that sound right? Going to get a few more bids but not sure what to expect.

And is RUUD a good brand, great brand, ****hole?

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Old 07-12-2019, 02:25 PM   #2
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Sounds a little pricey. I had new ducts, 4 ton coastal outside unit, new blower put in last summer for 1700 sf. $7k

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Old 07-12-2019, 02:32 PM   #3
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16 seer 5 ton. $7800 2 months ago. Had hell with rude/reem for 14 years. Went with Daikan.
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Old 07-12-2019, 02:33 PM   #4
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Oh and they are listed RUUD 14 Seer
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Old 07-12-2019, 02:42 PM   #5
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And is the heat pump worth it? I hear goods and bads on those
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Old 07-12-2019, 02:45 PM   #6
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I am not in the trade, but heard RUUD is not a reliable brand. Cheaply made.
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Old 07-12-2019, 02:56 PM   #7
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I personally don't like Ruud/Rheem. Doesn't seem too high if its a heat pump. A properly setup heat pump can save lots on electricity. Electric heat puts out 3.41 btu per watt input. A heat pump can put out triple as much. Don't install one without a lockout to prevent the heat strips from operating when the heat pump can carry the load by itself. Get some more bids from different dealers on different mfg's. Use the contractor that leaves you with the best feelings. I don't believe any mfgs make 16 seer 2 stg units in 1/2 ton increments, so you cant get a 3 1/2 ton. Bit that's ok, a 2 stg unit runs at 60% on the first stg, so it will be there most of the time.
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:03 PM   #8
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Assume with parts and labor with a touch of overhead most companies will be around 2500 for 3-5 tons, using existing lineset and duct work. Anything above 3k is for sure profit so get to work knowing that.

On the other hand, some homeowners will pay 10k for that system and finance it happily so the company may not want to work with the informed.
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:04 PM   #9
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Heat pump is great and very efficient until about 35 degrees, then your emergency heat (electric strips) come on. Personally, I would go with a trane unit.
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:20 PM   #10
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That price sounds fair. We had a new heat pump installed 4 years ago for almost $9K with no duct work. Although, I am in the Austin area where everything is higher.
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:22 PM   #11
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I am in the business.
Tell me your preference of brand...because youíve had one 20yrs with zero problems...and Iíll tell you 20 people that will cuss that brand in the ground because they had one and it sucked.
Ford/Chevy
John Deer/Kubota
Coke/Pepsi

To the OP...Those prices are NOT out of line
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:30 PM   #12
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Price is ok depending on what all it is coming with.

Have someone VERIFY what size your house needs. Don’t buy from anyone not doing a Manual J to determine size. I find it comical that someone would quote 2 different sizes on the same house. It’s like admitting to doing it wrong.

Don’t worry too much about the brand. They all have their goods and bads and every AC guy will swear by the brand he sells.

Definitely go with the heat pump. Well worth it and saves a ton on heating costs, depending on how you use heat.

To me, must-haves on a new HVAC system are: Reliable trustworthy contractor installing it, heat pump, media filter (such as Aprilaire or IQ air), UV system, properly sized return, sealed ducts, parts AND LABOR warranty, and then 2-stage or variable speed if your budget allows.
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:32 PM   #13
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jdavidson is right. any mfg can make a lemon, and a bad install can make any system a lemon. But I still don't like rheem/ruud, or any of the nordyne products.
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:43 PM   #14
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Seems fair. I paid in Feb 2019 $5800 for a new 4 ton 16 SEER Rheem outside and 4 ton Rheem inside unit. Added 2 new drops in rooms.
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:44 PM   #15
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Iíve said this before...when it comes to AC equipment...and Iíve installed every brand there is...itís a race to the bottom. Tons of money invested in controls and gimmicks...then wrap it all up in the cheapest poorest quality cabinet possible...and then sell the homeowner a extended parts/labor warranty policy.
And then when it does break...find a reason to void that warranty.
Say and think what you will...but thatís the reality of todayís new breed of AC Techs
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:45 PM   #16
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Get the 5" filter and heat pump
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:46 PM   #17
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Sorry OP...my rant ainít helping you one bit
Iím gonna back out of here and let the rest steer you along
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:56 PM   #18
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Big plus is improve air filtration. Honeywell f100 filter system at the very least. doesn't add more than $150 to the contractors cost. I put one in every job I do. don't even give them the option. Most like it when they discover they only have to change filters once or twice a year, which is what they have been doing anyway.

Most mfg's, give a 10 yr (at least) parts warranty for a matched system. In the fine print they mention that you have to perform regular maintenance to keep this warranty up. So, I recommend you buy a maintenance agreement from your contractor after the install. This will only cost $130 to $150 a year, excluding filters or other maint parts (uv air purifier bulbs, humidifier pads). Most also offer priority service and price breaks for maintenance contract customers.
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Old 07-12-2019, 04:10 PM   #19
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Like said above, I'd find a different brand. Price seems a bit steep for 14 seer AC, closer to HP prices I would guess. You definitely want to go with heat pump and like said above I'd throw in the HW F100 air cleaner. I believe all brands will offer a 10 year parts warranty when registered.

I'm partial to American Standard heating and air conditioning products. Take a look at consumer reports.
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Old 07-12-2019, 06:30 PM   #20
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Nolan Ryan recommends American Standard. A fellow Texan wouldn't lie.
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Old 07-12-2019, 06:44 PM   #21
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My Rheem lasted over 30 years in the unit installed in the original build. I went back with a Rheem, but get it serviced 2 times per year. No problems so far. Not sure what I paid but I got varying prices from cheap to expensive for the same unit!
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Old 07-12-2019, 06:46 PM   #22
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I’m in the business and those prices are fair.
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Old 07-13-2019, 07:42 AM   #23
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Old 07-13-2019, 10:06 AM   #24
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I am local to you, about the same size house.

When the wife gets home later I will let you know who we used and what it costs.

American Standard unit and I am pretty sure we didn't pay what you were quoted
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Old 07-13-2019, 10:21 AM   #25
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I've already responded to similar posts. I just got a 20 seer Carrier Infinity installed for 13k. Saving me already $100 monthly and it is awesome at keeping the house comfortable.
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