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Old 06-10-2019, 08:50 AM   #1
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Default Water Softener killing grass?

I have a feeling my WS is killing my grass, I bought the home a year ago and the WS came with the house. I never had to water the grass since it always looked good. But during the summers when I start watering the grass looks worse than before. My neighbors to both sides have nice grass but mine looks like bad... I know the grass is always greener on the other side. What do y’all think?
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:01 AM   #2
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Your water softener will definitely not help your grass. I was talking with the plumbing company we use about getting a water softener recently and they told me they would plumb it so that line to the sprinkler system was separate from the line going through the water softener.
I don't remember the specifics but they definitely said you do not want to water your lawn with water going through the softener system.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:03 AM   #3
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You think your hose bibs/sprinklers are attached to the softener?
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:09 AM   #4
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Salt from a softener will not help your grass at all.
The University is starting to use these are they are great.
Vulcan descaler :http://vulcan-scale-free.com/
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:14 AM   #5
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I wouldn’t think my outdoor faucets would be connected to the WS but I read on google that it has happened to others. I might just have to switch the WS to off while watering or pull the whole system out.

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Old 06-10-2019, 09:17 AM   #6
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I wouldn’t think my outdoor faucets would be connected to the WS but I read on google that it has happened to others. I might just have to switch true WS to off while watering or pull the whole system out.
Is the house older or fairly new?
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:22 AM   #7
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Typically your outside hose bibs are not tied into the water softener. Do you have the same kind of grass as your neighbors, do they fertilize and you don't, spray for insects etc. I would ask them what there lawn care routine is. I have the same routine Winterizer in the fall weed and feed in the spring, regular fertilizer late June early July. I put granulated Triazicide down in the spring with my weed and feed.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:25 AM   #8
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Home was built in 07.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:28 AM   #9
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I have fertilized twice within the year, I don’t cut the grass low. I have never seen my neighbors fertilize or do much more than water.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:41 AM   #10
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Let’s see a pic of the grass, hard to believe your sprinkler system is hooked up to your water softener.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:42 AM   #11
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Water softener should not be tied to sprinklers.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:43 AM   #12
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I don’t have a sprinkler system, sorry if I wasn’t clear about that. I water with a hose and attachments.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:44 AM   #13
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I’m not at home, maybe I can get my wife to send one later.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:47 AM   #14
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Most newer houses have a soft water loop separating hose bibs and the sprinklers. WS installed by "the guy" driving around the neighborhood dropping off fliers are a crapshoot...
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:02 AM   #15
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So glad I saw this discussion. I was about to install a water softener just for my grass.... I installed underground drip irrigation and don't want the weep holes to clog from my extremely hard water. I'm going with the descaler now...
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:15 AM   #16
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If your water softener is tied to the inlet of your house then more than likely everything runs through it. My old house was that way but the sprinkler system for the yard was tied in before the softener.
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:17 AM   #17
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Just get a hardness test kit off amazon and test the water at the spigot compared to your kitchen faucet.
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:35 AM   #18
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Water softener should not be tied to sprinklers.
And never to the hose bibs. This one must have been added after original construction.
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Old 06-10-2019, 11:40 AM   #19
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Salt from a softener will not help your grass at all.
The University is starting to use these are they are great.
Vulcan descaler :http://vulcan-scale-free.com/
I went with this one, haven't tied it in yet

https://www.scaleblaster.com/residential/
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Old 06-10-2019, 11:53 AM   #20
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Yea I’m sure it was put in after construction.
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Old 06-10-2019, 12:25 PM   #21
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Seems like the water softener would have an isolation valve for service. Turn it off and see if you have water at the spigots.
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Old 06-10-2019, 01:13 PM   #22
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Will try that thanks fellas.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:29 PM   #23
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As far as I know, the water in the softener is not friendly to the lawn. The lawn does not like salty water. My advice is that you should ask your neighbors how to get the lawn as good as they are. The water they use is probably not from a water softener or has undergone some sort of treatment.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:47 PM   #24
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Seems like the water softener would have an isolation valve for service. Turn it off and see if you have water at the spigots.
Most systems have a bypass valve. Or a loop that can be opened to run water around the unit incase of leaks or need of unit being removed. It all depends on how the house is plumbed some the whole house is hooked to the soft water some are not best way to know is like others have said test the kitchen sink then compare the test to the one you do on the outside water.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:12 PM   #25
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Where is your back charge drain line. That is the salty water not the water that goes through to the house.
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:16 PM   #26
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I have a feeling my WS is killing my grass, I bought the home a year ago and the WS came with the house. I never had to water the grass since it always looked good. But during the summers when I start watering the grass looks worse than before. My neighbors to both sides have nice grass but mine looks like bad... I know the grass is always greener on the other side. What do y’all think?


What time are you watering your grass?


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Old 06-13-2019, 07:21 AM   #27
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As far as I know, the water in the softener is not friendly to the lawn. The lawn does not like salty water. My advice is that you should ask your neighbors how to get the lawn as good as they are. The water they use is probably not from a water softener or has undergone some sort of treatment.
Water from a water softener is not “salty.” That’s a myth. Soft water is not good on lawns because of what a softener takes out of the water, not anything it adds to it.


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Old 06-13-2019, 07:24 AM   #28
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Watering grass thru a water softener is basically watering it with salt water, I’m doing a sprinkler system and will be hooking to my water line before the softener
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Watering grass thru a water softener is basically watering it with salt water, I’m doing a sprinkler system and will be hooking to my water line before the softener
Not true. A water softener adds very little salt to the water, certainly not enough to kill grass. The vast majority of salt/brine used in the regeneration process ends up going down the drain during the regeneration process.


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Not true. A water softener adds very little salt to the water, certainly not enough to kill grass. The vast majority of salt/brine used in the regeneration process ends up going down the drain during the regeneration process.


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Ive heard this a bunch and can not find my self to believe it. We didn’t have a softener for the first year and I could taste salt as soon as we added one. A guy I work with had someone look at his pool and was told he needed to add a little salt, then after a conversation the guy found out he didn’t have a salt system and the only thing that could of happened is the fact that his pool is filled after it goes thru his softener..
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