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Old 09-11-2019, 09:39 PM   #1
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I need some help with picking out a tree to plant in my backyard. I want something that grows fast and puts out some nice shade. I live in spring branch, right north of San Antonio. Thanks
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Old 09-11-2019, 09:43 PM   #2
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Live oak. The end

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Old 09-11-2019, 09:44 PM   #3
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Cedar Elm or Chinese Pistache

Or maybe a chinquapin oak

Red oak and Live oak grow too slow
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Old 09-11-2019, 09:45 PM   #4
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I like to grow Live oaks. Water and fertilize
I have been amazed how nice they quickly they grow after they take root.
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Old 09-11-2019, 09:47 PM   #5
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One of my buddies also recommended the cedar elm
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Old 09-11-2019, 09:56 PM   #6
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This is a simple question. Something that feed the block -even better if it feeds you.
There is everything from a 5 year persimmon to a 8 year pecan.
A pine tree is the 2nd to the worst tree to plant, any cedar or juniper is the worst to plant. A live oak at least feeds a few critters........
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:00 PM   #7
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Monterrey Oak! Planted two here in Blanco about a year and a half ago and they are doing great. Fast growing stay green most of the year...never completely lose all leaves. Did a lot of research and chose the Monterrey Oak. Look into them.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:27 PM   #8
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Monterrey Oak! Planted two here in Blanco about a year and a half ago and they are doing great. Fast growing stay green most of the year...never completely lose all leaves. Did a lot of research and chose the Monterrey Oak. Look into them.
I will check them out, thanks for all the replies
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:31 PM   #9
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Monterrey Oak! Planted two here in Blanco about a year and a half ago and they are doing great. Fast growing stay green most of the year...never completely lose all leaves. Did a lot of research and chose the Monterrey Oak. Look into them.
Iíve planted several Monterrey Oaks over the years, and they are great trees.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:50 PM   #10
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Monterey live oak, will not get oak wilt.
Or a Mexican sycamore.
Go visit Fanick's or Shades of Greenfor what your looking for.
I listen alot to South Texas Gardening on 550 AM on Sat/Sun. People are always asking this question, and these are Bob Webster's two too answers.

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Old 09-11-2019, 10:58 PM   #11
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I have four Chinese Pistache trees on my place. Great shade trees and fall colors.

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Old 09-11-2019, 11:04 PM   #12
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Monterrey Oak (Quercus polymorpha) or Lacebark Elm.
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Old 09-11-2019, 11:09 PM   #13
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Tallow Tree aka China Ball Tree, fast grower, you will have lots of shade, because you will have a bunch of trees.
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Old 09-11-2019, 11:25 PM   #14
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Tallow Tree aka China Ball Tree, fast grower, you will have lots of shade, because you will have a bunch of trees.
Donít do this.
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Old 09-12-2019, 12:31 AM   #15
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I have four Chinese Pistache trees on my place. Great shade trees and fall colors.

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Do these have the shallow roots that stay at/just below the surface and kill the grass?
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Old 09-12-2019, 04:50 AM   #16
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I have four Chinese Pistache trees on my place. Great shade trees and fall colors.

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How fast do these grow??
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Old 09-12-2019, 05:29 AM   #17
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Live oak. The end

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I really wish we had them up here. I really like them.
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Old 09-12-2019, 05:48 AM   #18
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google up texas tree selector

Should provide some good ideas

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Old 09-12-2019, 06:12 AM   #19
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I really wish we had them up here. I really like them.
Yeah they grow really fast and are beautiful trees. I have one in my front yard that toutches the ground really a show piece

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Old 09-12-2019, 06:18 AM   #20
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http://texastreeplanting.tamu.edu/

I have always been a fan of Maples.

Donít plant a Chinese Tallow... I donít think itís even legal...
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Old 09-12-2019, 06:21 AM   #21
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x5 on Monterrey oaks (a.k.a. Mexican white oak). almost evergreen, disease resistant, fast-growing. Little maintenance compared to live oaks and water oaks which don't self prune.
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Old 09-12-2019, 06:31 AM   #22
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Fastest growing tree I have seen is the Chinese Parasol Tree. Has giant leaves and provides a lot of shade.
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Old 09-12-2019, 07:00 AM   #23
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How fast do these grow??
Chinese Tallow Trees they are a invasive tree kinda like HOGs
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Do these have the shallow roots that stay at/just below the surface and kill the grass?
No
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Old 09-12-2019, 07:02 AM   #25
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Chinese Tallow Trees they are a invasive tree kinda like HOGs
Truth ,ask the folks that live on the prairie.

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Old 09-12-2019, 07:33 AM   #26
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Monterrey Oak! Planted two here in Blanco about a year and a half ago and they are doing great. Fast growing stay green most of the year...never completely lose all leaves. Did a lot of research and chose the Monterrey Oak. Look into them.
This! Monterrey Oaks are a morphing oak so get one that has been grown next to Live Oaks and it will cross pollenate with them and take on the evergreen and smaller leaf characteristics. If they are grown by a Burr oak they will have Large leafs and Large acorns. One of my favorite oaks for sure. They grow fast and are hardy trees.
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Old 09-12-2019, 08:50 AM   #27
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One of my buddies also recommended the cedar elm
I planted 3 of these at my ranch for shade grew real nice, then some sort of beatle got them and killed them
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Old 09-12-2019, 09:02 AM   #28
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What time if year would you plant the monterry live oak. And any ground prep
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Old 09-12-2019, 09:03 AM   #29
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royal empress tree can grow 15' a year.
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Old 09-12-2019, 09:11 AM   #30
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What time if year would you plant the monterry live oak. And any ground prep
You want to plant trees in the fall, so roots can establish before they have to bear the texas summers.

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Old 09-12-2019, 09:14 AM   #31
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Sycamore...you could go with the silver ones but I like the native yellow/green ones.
Monterrey Oaks are a great choice.

Do not plant an ash tree, pear tree, chinese tallow or maple. They grow super fast and die fast. The faster they grow, the less dense the wood, the shorter the life.

Cedar elms are tough but brittle, rot in the very center starting from a young age and are shallow rooted. I had a major scaffold limb break on one two nights ago and the remaining top snapped last night with storms.

Cottonwoods will get up there quick. Super quick...5 yrs 30ft tree.
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Old 09-12-2019, 12:46 PM   #32
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How fast do these grow??
"Ugly Duckling To Beautiful Swan

Although considered by many experts to be near perfect for this area of the U.S., the Chinese pistache does have a couple of minor faults. First, young pistache in 5–gallon containers (a nice size to purchase) are often rather awkward and gangling in appearance. Rest assured that after 5–6 years of tender loving care in your landscape, this “ugly duckling” will have been magically transformed into a most “beautiful swan” as its canopy develops and begins to mature. Secondly, shaping and pruning your tree when it's young may be necessary to encourage proper branch spacing and structure and for best crown development. Even without such pruning however, the vast majority of pistache will eventually make very nicely shaped trees on their own.

Buying Tips
Trees 6–8 feet in height, trunk diameter of 1.5 inches, are probably the ideal size for most homeowners to purchase.
There can be seedling variation in fall color of pistache, with color intensity normally ranging from good to spectacular. Thus, shop in late October, early November when most pistache are exhibiting their fall color. At this time, you can easily select a specimen with the most attractive foliage coloration."
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Old 09-12-2019, 02:38 PM   #33
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The two I have had great success with are Red Oak or Mexican Sycamore. One of my sycamores planted 2 years ago actually has caught up to a live oak that we planted 15 years ago. If you don't mind the leaves that is...
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Old 09-12-2019, 02:41 PM   #34
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Oh and please no Chinese Tallows. When we first moved I had planted like 12, they grew great and a lot of shade. Big mistake, as of last year they have all been cut down but I literally have a small spray bottle in my shop full of Clean Slate, I have to walk around the yard every couple weeks killing little Tallow trees still sprouting from the roots or old seeds. Major pain in the **s.
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Old 09-12-2019, 02:44 PM   #35
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Since you live pretty close to Boerne you might want to check this out. I buy 3-4 trees from them a year. The sale is coming up soon.


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Old 09-12-2019, 02:52 PM   #36
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You can't go wrong with a cedar elm or Live Oak. I prefer the cedar elm because I like watching the leaves fall in the Fall, and the color change, and they seem to grow faster in my area. Don't spend a lot on a big tree. A small cedar elm in full sun will take off fast, and the more you prune it to have a straight trunk, the taller it will be before it branches. Prune it before leaf out each spring where you just have a tiny whip at the top and those things will grow a whole new canopy each year until they get to the desired height.( be careful not to overdo the pruning, and make sure you have at least a three branch split at the top, you can cut everything else off) I've hade live oaks die on me, but I also live on a lime stone hill. You want the tree to have it's roots in the ground good too, before you prune the heck out of it. The pruning is to keep it from being so bush-like, and make it a more towering stately tree.

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Old 09-12-2019, 02:55 PM   #37
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Donít do this.
Tallowtree would be a huge mistake.

For your area, Monterrey Oak is one of the faster growing oaks. Live Oak is awesome but aren't the fastest growers.

Cedar Elm is another good option
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Old 09-12-2019, 03:33 PM   #38
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I’m close to you. Four years ago I planted a Chinese pistachio, a Monterrey oak, and a Burr oak. The Burr has the huge acorns, correct? If so, the Burr has outperformed the other two by miles. Has almost doubled in size. The Monterrey on the other hand, has struggled. Now part of that is I didn’t get protection around it as fast as the other two and the dang Axis bucks have pretty much stunted it’s growth I think. It has lost its leaves again this summer as it did last year. Maybe stress? Hopefully it comes back. The Burr is healthy as a horse. The Chinese has done ok also but just not in same class as the Burr.
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I need some help with picking out a tree to plant in my backyard. I want something that grows fast and puts out some nice shade. I live in spring branch, right north of San Antonio. Thanks
Shumard Red Oak or a Lacebark Elm
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You want to plant trees in the fall, so roots can establish before they have to bear the texas summers.

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this ... very important. When I plant trees, if I can, I always follow this rule.
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Old 09-12-2019, 04:09 PM   #42
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Tallow Tree aka China Ball Tree, fast grower, you will have lots of shade, because you will have a bunch of trees.
Noooooooo!!!!!! Have you ever tried to walk barefoot on the whatever it is they drop? When they are green itís almost like walking on marbles and when they dry out and peel itís like walking on a nail bed. I will admit it has great fall colors but that is the only positive you get
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Old 09-12-2019, 04:25 PM   #44
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I recommend you at least look into October Glory Maples. I have a couple in my front yard and they have done great and are stunning in the Fall. I'm well north of you so your milage may vary.
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Old 09-12-2019, 04:29 PM   #45
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Old 09-12-2019, 10:42 PM   #48
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Actually a good suggestion...if you dont like walking barefoot in your yard. Some people aint barefooters...not a big deal.
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