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Old 02-28-2021, 01:07 PM   #1
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How about a windage and elevation target about now, shaped like a T....

Target is about 6 inches high, with the top bar 5.5 inches wide and 1.5 inch thick bars. Center on a piece of copy paper and put a dot at the top middle as shown below.

Shoot the first 4 shots of a day at the dot from 14 yards (7 for kiddos), any stance. Count the number of hits anywhere on the "T" (touching line counts). Measure the one closest arrow from shaft to center of dot as a tie-breaker. Up to four days' tries allowed.

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Old 02-28-2021, 02:51 PM   #2
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4 on the paper. Only one in the T.

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Old 03-01-2021, 05:32 PM   #3
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Day 1: 2 hits; closest 1-3/8"
First three shots went left to right in order, with final one on vertical bar.


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Good target and good shooting T^2.

Day 1: 1/16” on first shot from the Duct Tape Turbulated with 3 on T.
(Tape measure wasnt cooperating with the small measure)
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"Turbulated"????
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You go Briar!
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Old 03-01-2021, 08:48 PM   #7
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Nice shot Briar!


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Old 03-01-2021, 10:04 PM   #8
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That a boy, Briar!
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Old 03-02-2021, 09:09 AM   #9
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Go yuh oure on fire

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"Turbulated"????
A turbulator breaks the laminar air flow along a shaft. Dr Ashby brought it up in his lectures on arrow construction...you can find the videos on GrizzlyStiks website. Essentially using a small raised band around the shaft in front of fletchings creates more turbulence and enhances the drag of the fletchings to aid in accuracy and stability. Dr Ashby said to use 1/8” pinstriping tape. Ive run my 1/8” duct tape turbulator through two critters so far.

Not many people consider or talk about that arrow wraps essentially do the same thing as an intentional turbulator...unwittingly create more turbulence and subsequently drag to aid in accuracy and arrow stability (...to be redundant).

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Day 2: 2 strikes and measure not better than 1/16”
I was disappointed the turbulated didnt make a strike.


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Old 03-02-2021, 01:35 PM   #13
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Y'all are shooting nicely!

Briar: Hadn't thought of just cutting a thin piece of duct tape to use as a turbulator. I might try that. Heck, my whole hunting set up is based pretty much on principles that Dr. Ashby outlined. (600 grain arrow, with close to 30% FOC, amounting to about 9 GPI)
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Y'all are shooting nicely!

Briar: Hadn't thought of just cutting a thin piece of duct tape to use as a turbulator. I might try that. Heck, my whole hunting set up is based pretty much on principles that Dr. Ashby outlined. (600 grain arrow, with close to 30% FOC, amounting to about 9 GPI)


9gpi, or 9gpp??? I see no way possible to build a 9gpp arrow with 30% FOC.

Please list your arrow specs.

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9gpi, or 9gpp??? I see no way possible to build a 9gpp arrow with 30% FOC.

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Thanks for the catch, Bisch. Was intending to say it's about 9 gpp (600 grain arrow in 67-lb bow). Mis-stated FOC; not nearly 30%, rather, it's actually 26.2%.

Just checked, using AMO Method 1: 29" length from nockpoint to back of fieldpoint; with 22.1" from nockpoint to balance point.
So, it's below the 30% threshold defining Ultra-Extreme FOC, but well up in the range of Extreme FOC of 19-29%. Hits pretty hard, still flies fast.

BTW, nice to see you at Cowtown TBOT.

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Old 03-02-2021, 07:54 PM   #16
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Here's Day 2: 1 hit, no measure.
Close with shots 1 and 4.

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Thanks for the catch, Bisch. Was intending to say it's about 9 gpp (600 grain arrow in 67-lb bow). Mis-stated FOC; not nearly 30%, rather, it's actually 26.2%.

Just checked, using AMO Method 1: 29" length from nockpoint to back of fieldpoint; with 22.1" from nockpoint to balance point.
So, it's below the 30% threshold defining Ultra-Extreme FOC, but well up in the range of Extreme FOC of 19-29%. Hits pretty hard, still flies fast.

BTW, nice to see you at Cowtown TBOT.

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9gpi, or 9gpp??? I see no way possible to build a 9gpp arrow with 30% FOC.

Please list your arrow specs.

Bisch

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Thanks for keeping us between the lines Jerry.
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Old 03-03-2021, 02:18 PM   #19
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^^^Nice shooting, gentlemen ^^^^^^

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Old 03-03-2021, 05:16 PM   #20
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Old 03-03-2021, 09:36 PM   #21
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Good shooting fellas! GP...Im hoping you find a way to slip that 4th arrow in the T.

T^2...I need a call made on my ugly Day 3...shots went bottom to left to top to right... clockwise. Shot 2 seems to dent the line (no white between hole and line)...and shot 4 plugged the aim point dot.

Day 3: 2 or 3 on T...aim point strike dead on

My 2yo joined us for 2 shots. First from 9 and second from 6. Second shot he was on target butt but off paper. Two shots was enough when the tree swing became priority.
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Ellis is a very generous lineman. But even I would say that one is touching.

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Old 03-04-2021, 12:58 AM   #23
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Oh, yeah. That's 3 hits, Briar. Very nice. And you obliterated the tie-breaker spot. So, it will take 4 hits to beat you.
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Okey Dokey
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Old 03-04-2021, 08:08 PM   #26
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Old 03-05-2021, 03:16 PM   #27
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Day 4: 2 hits.
First and 4th shots good; 2nd and 3rd not so much.

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Old 03-06-2021, 09:32 AM   #28
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Shot twice yesterday since I knew I wouldn’t have an opportunity to shoot today. Wind yesterday afternoon wasn’t helping, but I did center punch the aiming dot.

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Dang good shooting Peoples. I havent shot in two days...Ill finish out the week later. I “installed” some turbulators on my other arrows and moved the existing turbulator away from the fletchings by a half inch or so. Im sooper excited for the virgin run!
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Old 03-06-2021, 01:01 PM   #30
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Excellent shooting, GP! And, while not specifically stated, there is precedent for shooting another day's round in advance. In other words, your 4-hit round, with the punched dot, counts and leads.

If we get another one similar, I'll probably consider completeness of arrows in the T (as opposed to cutting lines). Carry on.
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Old 03-06-2021, 09:21 PM   #31
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Giggity. Good call TT.

Day 4: 1 in the T
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Good shooting y'all.
Congrats to Grand Passage! Your call for week 10.




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