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    Stained Hocks - Bucks Age

    I will post a pic tomorrow as I'm already laying in bed and don't have my computer handy. I have a deer that I'm guessing is 4 - 5. He's new and I have no history with him. He has no staining on his hocks at all. You can easily see the tuff of hair on each leg but its the same color as the rest of is coat.

    Aside from a deers body, traditionally I've noticed that the larger and darker the hocks of a buck are stained, generally, the older they are. I've also noticed that older bucks keep some permanent staining on their hocks even in the summer time.

    Seeing no staining his really throwing me for a loop. Again, I'll post pics tomorrow but I'm curious how everyone ages this buck.

    So from the vast knowledge of the green screen why wouldn't he have stained hocks?

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    Here are a few examples of the above mentioned deer.

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      #3
      I’d say, just looking at his body, 4 or 5, leaning toward 4. No staining is curious to me, but he may not be a breeder. He might have problems from birth.

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        #4
        He may not be a breeding buck. Also I've never used "stained hocks" as any indication of age. He looks dang old to me.

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          Compare these 2 as examples.

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            Originally posted by Walker View Post
            He may not be a breeding buck. Also I've never used "stained hocks" as any indication of age. He looks dang old to me.
            I think after looking at 1000s of pictures of bucks throughout my life I've seen a decent pattern that would indicate the greater the staining the more likely the deer is a mature deer. Id just like variation with body shape and sizes there will be variations with it as well but i still think its an additional indicator to help validate age.

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              Another example of the buck i posted abt.

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                #8
                I don't think that is an indicator of age, but could be an indicator of scrape activity and maybe dominance.

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                  #9
                  Maybe it is a she-he and does not mate...

                  Have no idea, I have never seen that before sir, but does appear to be 4 (+/-).

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                    Depending on the place, hock staining is absolutely ONE of the things to look for on age. In those first two pics you posted you can’t even see his hocks. I see they are Snow White in that last pic. Sometimes when they get really old, they can look like that. Of course it could be because of other factors as well, which is likely the case here. He should have some kind of color there. Any injuries that you can notice?

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                      Originally posted by Chance Love View Post
                      Depending on the place, hock staining is absolutely ONE of the things to look for on age. In those first two pics you posted you can’t even see his hocks. I see they are Snow White in that last pic. Sometimes when they get really old, they can look like that. Of course it could be because of other factors as well, which is likely the case here. He should have some kind of color there. Any injuries that you can notice?
                      Indeed. I will see if I can find a picture of a post-mature deer from this year (llano) with no staining at all. Really odd. Is usually a very good indicator of age at our place. Post mature viagra free bucks may tend to get more worked up over corn and protein than the does.

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                        His knees and face don't look post mature. I'll find more pics of him tonight. No injuries that I can see in any pics but none give a good angle of his goods. He is 100% hard horned.

                        Again no history with the deer but I'm leaning towards injuried or defective 4-5 yr old vs post mature but guess I'll never know till he's on the ground.

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                          I also use the staining as a factor when aging. The older they get...the farther the stains go down their legs and the darker they become imo. I’ve also noticed it depends on the area and the buck to doe ratio. At my lease we are pretty dang close to a 1:1 ratio and as a result the bucks show a lot more sign of of rut activity(thicker necks and stained hocks)
                          40 miles away at the house the ratio is more like 4 does to every buck and even our more dominant bucks have thinner necks and not much on the stained hocks side either.

                          That being said I’d agree with the others that there’s probably something wrong with him...or her...or whatever it identifies as. He also looks to be fattening up like a steer...especially for this time of the year. Is he normal size for your place?


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