Coleman treasures

[Buckshot-73]

Originally Posted by 2050z

200A are awesome lantern. I got a Coleman accessory try for mine. I keep my extra mantles in there. Some sellers want way too much money for those little reds.

You need to find your birth month and year lantern.

I got one earlier this year. It's being restored into a very cool looking lantern.

Timm, just curios... When you restore one, as in new paint and such, is there a special color paint Coleman used??

Like the J. D. Green and yellow...

Or do you just get as close to original you can.

[2050z]

Originally Posted by Buckshot-73

Timm, just curios... When you restore one, as in new paint and such, is there a special color paint Coleman used??

Like the J. D. Green and yellow...

Or do you just get as close to original you can.

Coleman does not sell their paint so the closest I could find was at Lowes Hunter Green. The ventilators are different. You have to use a high heat paint and then bake it. I have a source that will restore the ventilators but the wait is a long time.

I have not messed with the 200A red because I only have one and I like the way it looks now. I have repainted stoves and lanterns only. It's pretty easy. Now the paint will only take so much abuse before you have to shoot it again. The nickel plated 228D is getting polished, but not repainted. I've decided to use it after I got back from Colorado elk hunt.

My only working lantern (I brought three) was 1941 242B. My 288's would not light at all. Brought them home and they worked fine. Must have been altitude sickness.

Have fun with it and don't be afraid of taking them apart. It's pretty easy. If you need help just ping me.

[Goldeneagle]

I used Rustoleum Hunter Green on my stove.

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...=Coleman+stove

[2050z]

Originally Posted by Goldeneagle

I used Rustoleum Hunter Green on my stove.

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...=Coleman+stove

Yep that is the paint I use.

[Goldeneagle]

Might have to load up the wife and do some garage selling this weekend.

[2050z]

Originally Posted by Goldeneagle

Might have to load up the wife and do some garage selling this weekend.

I have a lead on three 2 burner stoves and two single burner stoves if you are interested.

[Arrowsmith]

Here is a 51 (1964 model 220E) year old font that I just finished repainting. I used Rustoleum Hunter green and two coats of clear. I bake the paint for about an hour at 200 degrees in an old toaster oven.

[Arrowsmith]

I have a restoration going on a 1959 220E also. I will post some pictures when I get it put back together and burning.

[2050z]

Looks good Mike

[BTLowry]

Originally Posted by 2050z

200A are awesome lantern. I got a Coleman accessory try for mine. I keep my extra mantles in there. Some sellers want way too much money for those little reds.

You need to find your birth month and year lantern.

I got one earlier this year. It's being restored into a very cool looking lantern.

Well I will have to do some looking to find one

I found something the other day that I need to get a pic of, old box of mantles in individual packages

[2050z]

Originally Posted by BTLowry

Well I will have to do some looking to find one

I found something the other day that I need to get a pic of, old box of mantles in individual packages

That sounds like a nice find.

[Jethro]

Guys, I think I just scored, but want you to tell me for sure. This has been in my shop for probably 10 years, it came from an old disbanded local boy scout troop. I have never used it, but after this thread I want to clean it up and get it running. Is this what I think it is?

[2050z]

Originally Posted by Jethro

Guys, I think I just scored, but want you to tell me for sure. This has been in my shop for probably 10 years, it came from an old disbanded local boy scout troop. I have never used it, but after this thread I want to clean it up and get it running. Is this what I think it is?

Huge score!!

[BTLowry]

Nice Jethro

[BTLowry]

Here is a pic for you Timm


Not sure how old it is, can't find date on box anywhere. Pretty full too

[2050z]

That is a great find right there buddy. Great for your collection.

[Jethro]

So, I don't know much about them, but from what I have seen it looks like maybe that is a 1948-1953 model? That is the original old style tank, correct? What is something like that worth? I plan to keep it, but just curious...

[2050z]

Value is based on what the collector is willing to pay. Probably a couple hundred bucks if that is a working stove. Just a huge guess though.

[Jethro]

I kind of figured in the 100-200 range. Doesn't really matter though since I am keeping it, but I was curious. It is probably going to take a bit of work to get it running, I need to start by cleaning everything out good and then go from there. You got a good link on how to rebuild one? I figure I will just strip down all the valves, etc and clean them good, then try to fire it up.

The pump is stuck, and the main tank valve is froze up, but the valve for the second burner moves free. Tank probably needs to be cleaned too. Seems I read something about soaking it in vinegar for a few days?

[2050z]

I use Metal Rescue to soak the parts now. Take the generator off tank and clean/soak it. Be very careful pulling it apart because there is needle at the end.

[2050z]

Originally Posted by Jethro

I kind of figured in the 100-200 range. Doesn't really matter though since I am keeping it, but I was curious. It is probably going to take a bit of work to get it running, I need to start by cleaning everything out good and then go from there. You got a good link on how to rebuild one? I figure I will just strip down all the valves, etc and clean them good, then try to fire it up.

The pump is stuck, and the main tank valve is froze up, but the valve for the second burner moves free. Tank probably needs to be cleaned too. Seems I read something about soaking it in vinegar for a few days?

No link really.
Stoves are simple.
remove the burner first. Soak burner and rings for a few hours. Set aside to dry
Remove plumbing. Wipe down with a good cleaner to remove the grease. Soak if you want to.

Remove plumbing shelf. Scrub down with good cleaner. Soak it if you want.

*Tank*
Be careful here. Parts are brass, but the tank is not. Just take your time removing the generator. I have never messed with a tank like yours, but you should be okay.

is there a model number and date code on that case?

[Jethro]

Well, I just screwed it up.

I went to Old Coleman Parts and was using his tutorial, pretty good. I went to remove the valve from the tank, it was stuck pretty hard. I was twisting on it, and instead of the brass fitting coming out of the tank, the metal boss in the tank itself spun. So I guess the tank is ruined now. Unless I can get someone to braze it back. I used to do that in the Navy, I know it can be done. It will ruin my paint though, which I was hoping to keep original. Everything else cam apart fine, and was cleaning up real well.

Only thing on that case is Coleman, 425, Wichita Kansas. The video I saw said it wasn't until much later they started stamping dates on them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2TmTDvqdSU

Here is where the fitting spun. I should have put some heat on that thread locker to turn it loose.

[2050z]

Ouch. Go to Coleman Collector forum and join. Post there and see what the experts can do to help. You can find some great collectors on FB as well.

[Arrowsmith]

It can be braised. Just make sure you test it before using.

[Goldeneagle]

That pic looks like it was soldered in not brazed.

[Jethro]

So I got on the Coleman Collector forum, and a guy had done pretty much the same thing on a tank that looked just like mine. He had soldered a new fitting in his. So I busted out the torch and silver solder that we use doing the piping inside tanks, and went to work. First time I got it a little crooked, then I had to heat it again and straighten it up. But it is back in, everything is back together, and it works fine and is all sealed up. I tested it real well.

I am back in business, minus some factory paint I really wanted to keep. But I guess I can just re-paint the tank and not mess with the green case. I would like to leave it alone.

They talk about the tanks on these being bronze, but mine isn't bronze, it is a brown with no metallic in it. 99% sure that is factory paint too. I guess I willl just match it as good as I can and spray it.

[2050z]

Great job!!!

[Jethro]

And now that I have destroyed the paint on the tank...

I have looked and looked for another one with a brown tank like that. All of the round tanks like that are bronze. Except I found a picture of ONE that wasn't bronze, but brown. The caption on it said "probably from late 1947 or early 1948." So, maybe I had one from the very first year of the 425, in good shape, and boogered it. Where is that banging head on the wall emoji when you need it?

I still think I will just go ahead and repaint it. I won't be selling it anyways.

The valve handle was messed up too, you can see where it is just brass and not the plastic wheel. So I ordered one of those from Old Coleman Parts, as well as a new generator and filler gasket.

[2050z]

It will serve you well for years. I have one shelf queen stove. It's brand new never used three burner with all the paperwork. I have that never fired lantern above but I plan on using it.

I got carried away collecting this stuff, but now I only go after certain ones. I will get a heat drum for my 502 stove and a couple more accessory trays for the bigger lanterns.

[BTLowry]

I have a heat drum, need to find a 502 stove

Wife bought it at a garage sale in a pile of stuff and I didn't know what it was until later on

[Buckshot-73]

Jethro, just being nosy... Did you try lighting the stove prior to working on it??

As reliable as these are, it may have fired up with nothing but fresh fuel.

[2050z]

Originally Posted by BTLowry

I have a heat drum, need to find a 502 stove

Wife bought it at a garage sale in a pile of stuff and I didn't know what it was until later on

Don't go bragging Mr. LOL

I will get one when I find the right one. 502's are nice little one burners.

[2050z]

A collector is FT worth was selling off a lot of lanterns today. Picking up a nice 228 this week.

[BTLowry]

Originally Posted by 2050z

Don't go bragging Mr. LOL

I will get one when I find the right one. 502's are nice little one burners.

Oh I am not bragging, I thought it was some kind of charcoal starter and it got put in the barn with some more stuff. About 3mos later I saw one while looking at some old coleman stuff online and finally figured out what it was

Growing up we had a 2burner stove, a little 200A lantern and occasionally we would use the catalytic heater
Lots of good memories

[2050z]

2 burners and double mantles is what we had growing up. I have one of the lanterns. Not sure what happened to our stove, but like most it was probably sold at a garage sale.

Might have get a that heat drum in a couple of weeks. I am going to calm down on collecting for awhile. I need to finish my birth lantern, 1948 228D lantern, and 413G stove.

I need to start making the Coleman boxes for the kids. Each kid will get a stove and two lanterns. My oldest wants the three burner and the other two have picked the 413G's. They have not decided on what lanterns because I keep getting new ones.

[BTLowry]

Pretty sure dad still has the stove and lantern in a camping box he made. Set on 2 saw horses and opened up to work on
Had spaces made for lantern, stove, dishes and a number of other things needed for a camp kitchen

[2050z]

That's my goal is to make a camp kitchen box for each of them. Trying to make a lot of fun camping memories.

[Jethro]

Originally Posted by Buckshot-73

Jethro, just being nosy... Did you try lighting the stove prior to working on it??

As reliable as these are, it may have fired up with nothing but fresh fuel.

No, I didn't because some of it was froze up. The air pilot valve was fine, but the needle valve on the generator was stuck. There was some light rust in the fuel tank too, so I decided I would clean it up before I tried. It looks like that valve was not original either, so I ordered a few parts from Old Coleman parts. They came in today, so it is time to go to work I guess.

The case I will just clean good and leave alone. Burner parts and tubes I may leave alone for now, or I may throw them in the blast cabinet and blast and paint them. Not sure.

Mainly, I have to work over that tank, get the junk out of it and get the new parts on. I may just fire it up from there and see where I am at.

[2050z]

Jethro you have a nice stove project. Looking forward to seeing the blue flames.

[Jethro]

I need to run by mothers house and get Dad's old lantern. I think it is probably an early to mid 70's. I think he had my grandfathers old lantern too, it was older than that. I just need to see what is there and go from that point. Dads should be in good shape, it might be in running condition as-is.

I'm going to start work on the stove tank tonight. I went by the hardware store and got a few things to get me started. The tank is dry so I think I will start with shaking some small screws in it, using a magnet to get them out, blow the rust out, then maybe a vinegar soak for a day or three. As soon as it is clean I will blast the paint off in my blast cabinet and shoot it with some brown that I think is about right. Then I will bake it in the smoker I use for curing Cerakote.

I have really, really thought about Cerakoting that tank instead of painting it. Burnt bronze would match the typical color for that model very well, or patriot brown would be really close to what it is now.

[2050z]

Originally Posted by Jethro

I need to run by mothers house and get Dad's old lantern. I think it is probably an early to mid 70's. I think he had my grandfathers old lantern too, it was older than that. I just need to see what is there and go from that point. Dads should be in good shape, it might be in running condition as-is.

I'm going to start work on the stove tank tonight. I went by the hardware store and got a few things to get me started. The tank is dry so I think I will start with shaking some small screws in it, using a magnet to get them out, blow the rust out, then maybe a vinegar soak for a day or three. As soon as it is clean I will blast the paint off in my blast cabinet and shoot it with some brown that I think is about right. Then I will bake it in the smoker I use for curing Cerakote.

I have really, really thought about Cerakoting that tank instead of painting it. Burnt bronze would match the typical color for that model very well, or patriot brown would be really close to what it is now.

We used bb's inside the tanks/founts. Metal Rescue does a better job of removing the rust though.

[Jethro]

I live in a small town, I can find any of it here. I have looked for the metal rescue, but no luck.

[2050z]

Home Depot is only place I can find it.

[bowhuntertex]

I have 3 old coleman lanterns and 2 stoves. no idea on years, but once I get the house built they will go in my mancave. All were working when I put them in storage a couple of years ago.

[2050z]

Originally Posted by bowhuntertex

I have 3 old coleman lanterns and 2 stoves. no idea on years, but once I get the house built they will go in my mancave. All were working when I put them in storage a couple of years ago.

Put some oil in each pump well and let them soak it up. Check the bottom of the stove and lanterns for date codes. Month and year

[ultralite09]

Well Timm got me all fixed up with a new stove and gave me advice on how to get my old lantern working again. Had positive news on the condition of the lantern and got it lit tonight! This lantern, the hissing and the smell of burning campfuel brings back memories tracking my first deer with it and countless nights fishing for crappie under the bridges.

Thanks for all the help Timm! These 2 will be put to a lot of use feeding my friends and I in the duck blind

[ultralite09]

[2050z]

Glad to help out. Two very dependable items right there. Maybe I will get to see them again on a duck hunt.

Welcome to the Coleman addiction.

[Jethro]

Those are some nice items there Ultralight.

I had to swing by mothers last night to put license plates on her car for her. I found Dad's fishing lantern, but forgot he had broke the globe on it fishing one night. It isn't quite as old as I thought either. It is a 220K from 3/81. Other than the glass though it is in pretty good shape. It will pump and hold pressure, and hiss when I open the valve. No rust in the tank. I bet it will fire up with some mantels and a globe.

My grandpas wasn't right there with it, I think maybe it is out in the shed or something. It may take some digging to find it.

[2050z]

220k's are nice lanterns.