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Old 11-26-2019, 09:12 PM   #1
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We have a hunter on our lease that has a deer feeder about 60 feet away from a property line / fence line. This feeder Ė well Ė several feeders over the years Ė has been in this location for over 6 years.

So today Ė said hunter found the attached note in the timer motor box, with the battery disconnected from the timer.

So yes we all at the lease are all bees nest hopping mad. The landowner was called and he of course is not happy. It has yet to be determined if he is upset with said hunter or trespassing neighbor. I suspect both.

What is the thought process for someone to cross fence lines, trespass and disable a feeder that is near but not on a fence line?

Does anyone recognize the paper form that the nextdoor.com like request is written on?

Yes we are all hopping mad but I want to think if all parties met at the same campfire and plenty of brews any disagreements could be easily and quickly settled.

I want to think if I was said donkey-hole in question I would have included my cellphone and email address in the note.

Hereís the suspense hook: There might be perp pics coming soon.

Disclosure: I myself had a feeder about 25 feet away from a fence line on the other side of the property - different neighbor/landowner. After reading several fence line etiquette posts here on TBH I eventually moved it away more than 100 yards away. But Iím a new guy still learning.

Also, for you TBH super-sleuths out there that can figure out the area that Iím talking about, just donít. Please. I would like to keep the drama at a minimum.

update: we will be moving said feeder another 50 yards away from the fence line this weekend.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:18 PM   #2
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Involving the landowner was probably not the best route. Most don’t want to get caught up in drama, and would rather the “drama” just go away (no longer a place for you and your clan to hunt). Just my thoughts.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:19 PM   #3
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Oh boy, here we go...
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:19 PM   #4
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Your decision to move it or land owner request? Thanks
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:19 PM   #5
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I’d move it closer and put a lock on the motor. I’ve never understood the whole don’t hunt on a fence line deal. Rifles go 100’s or yards weather you are 60 yards or 200 yards away.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:21 PM   #6
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Involving the landowner was probably not the best route.
My thoughts exactly. But I'm not the manager.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:22 PM   #7
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You didn't have a camera looking at the feeder?
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:25 PM   #8
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Move it closer about 10yards from fence and lock it up
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:26 PM   #9
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As long a projectile is not crossing the fence, no law is broken.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:27 PM   #10
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Your decision to move it or land owner request? Thanks
It's complicated. I wasn't involved in the decision.

I can say, that this years lease agreement he specifically added that all feeders and blinds must be at least 100 feet away from property lines.

So if said hunter had moved the feeder after signing the latest lease agreement this probably would not be an issue.

I'm not looking to draw anyone offsides with the post. Just want level headed thoughts. Thank you
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:27 PM   #11
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I wouldn’t move the feeder. You lease every square inch of that land. My theory is this. Feeders inside fence 30yds plus and stands on fence hunting that feeder shooting into the property you lease. Now if feeder is on the fence and your stand is yards away shooting towards property line then I have a problem. As long as the projectile doesn’t cross property line then leave it how it is.

Whoever left that note needs an arse whoopin and a visit from the local GW!

Move it closer or leave it where it’s at and set up multiple cams in the area.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:28 PM   #12
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Another thought is to post a reply on a fence post saying you're just trying to keep your deer off his property.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:29 PM   #13
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How about hang your own note that reads trespassers will be reported to the GW.

There is nothing wrong with a feeder 60 yds from a fence, there is nothing wrong with a blind on the fence looking onto your property. In some circumstances it might be a pud move but not a reason for someone to break the law
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:29 PM   #14
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Oh boy, here we go...
I know... I don't want to stoke the hornets nest... would like some thoughts from the TBH think tank.

Yes I was mad at first... but I just want to know others thinking process.

Thank you
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:29 PM   #15
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It's complicated. I wasn't involved in the decision.

I can say, that this years lease agreement he specifically added that all feeders and blinds must be at least 100 feet away from property lines.

So if said hunter had moved the feeder after signing the latest lease agreement this probably would not be an issue.

I'm not looking to draw anyone offsides with the post. Just want level headed thoughts. Thank you
100'? Or, 100 yards?
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:30 PM   #16
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:31 PM   #17
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He trespassed and messed with personal property, to me that is criminal. We had a new guy lease next to us and we left a note on the gate to call us, after a friendly conversation we know where each other's feeders and shot directions.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:31 PM   #18
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The manner in which the “donkey hole” made his request would have severely ****** me off I admit. My first inclination would be , uh, something not good, and if I had caught him in the act........ I like to think I’m better than I used to be and mostly I am, but not always.

Apparently there are two schools of thought on fenceline hunting. Either it’s ok because it’s your land/lease, or it’s not because you’re too close to his land/lease. The law just says no projectile can cross said fence. The rest is up to the two parties to figure out. I think there’s a third option. Face your stand away from their fence and have your feeder no closer than 150 yards away from it. From that standpoint I don’t think the neighbor has a valid argument, although a real “donkey hole” probably still would. Good luck settling this.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:33 PM   #19
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I know a landowner that would shoot the motor/spinner on a feeder if he thought they were to close to the fence, this same jackwagon shared windmills on several pastures and there were water troughs 50' from the fence on both sides. Some folks you just got to shake your head. I seriously doubt anybody will run out of deer on either side of the fence.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:34 PM   #20
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No matter what I think about a feeder/stand being on a fence line, I'd be fired up if someone trespassed and messed with my equipment.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:35 PM   #21
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100'? Or, 100 yards?
100 feet.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:36 PM   #22
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I did not know there was a feeder made that could sling corn 60yds out!!!
Bow hunting that, you would have to build the stand on top of the feeder!!
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:37 PM   #23
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He did say thanks ,so he's probably a really nice guy.

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Old 11-26-2019, 09:40 PM   #24
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Had the guy left a number I could send him pics of one of our sets. He'd loose it!

The feeder and stand are on opposite sides of the fence

But we have granted access of the land between the fence and a creek

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Old 11-26-2019, 09:42 PM   #25
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I have duck hunters On a pond 40ft off the fence and they shoot constantly. Annoying As heck but what are you going to do. I was hunting my tower stand nearby one morning and I heard a shot whizz overhead. I yelled a few choice words and it hasn’t happened since. If I see their lights on when I walk in, I now keep walking to the next stand.
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I would paint a big middle finger on the feeder facing that fence.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:45 PM   #27
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I wouldnít move the feeder. You lease every square inch of that land. My theory is this. Feeders inside fence 30yds plus and stands on fence hunting that feeder shooting into the property you lease. Now if feeder is on the fence and your stand is yards away shooting towards property line then I have a problem. As long as the projectile doesnít cross property line then leave it how it is.

Whoever left that note needs an arse whoopin and a visit from the local GW!

Move it closer or leave it where itís at and set up multiple cams in the area.
You and I think alike. I lease every inch of a piece of property and fence lines happen to be fantastic travel routes. Iíd never set up to where Iím shooting into the neighboring property but Iíll hunt my side however the hell I want to.

That said, if a lease agreement has been signed and agreed to about 100í interior boundaries then that agreement needs to be met.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:46 PM   #28
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He did say thanks ,so he's probably a really nice guy.
I want to think he is a nice guy. He didn't steal the feeder.

Again, a little conversation between parties could go a long ways.

We are in Callahan county, there is no on-x or huntstand owner/contact info available.

Our property owner talked to perp property owner, but I have no details other than there was a conversation. I really wished our property owner was left out of this.
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I want to think he is a nice guy. He didn't steal the feeder.
He disabled the feeder!!!
Yeah, he's a swell guy!!!!
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:52 PM   #30
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Put yourself in his shoes..
How "bee hive pizzed" are ya'll going to be if he now puts one 20 feet from the fence, on his side? And don't say ya'll wont be either..
This is exactly how silly nonsense gets started but its great for the high fence builders..
Its much easier to just be respectful of each other..

Just because it legal doesn't mean its right..
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:56 PM   #31
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I'm not a huge fan of feeders within 50 yards of property lines but that's just a personal preference. I don't think it really becomes an issue until your shots have the potential to stray on neighboring property.

That being said, under no circumstances should the neighbor trespass and touch personal property. That's just ****ty.

I'd never move it closer just to irk the guy, that's super petty and does nothing for solving the problem. Call the guy and see what he has in mind for a reasonable distance. If it's moving the feeder 50 yards that's a pretty easy fix. It takes too much energy to stay mad... Sort it out and move on.

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Old 11-26-2019, 09:56 PM   #32
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We have neighbor that has no brush on his place till the back 30 yds or so. They have had a feeder 15 yds from the fence and the stand 40 yds from that quartering into our pasture. I don’t necessarily like it, but it’s their place and they can do what they want. On another note the neighbor that joins them is a target shooter and used to shoot a lot. Which is okay until the bullets started zinging over our heads in an oak Mott one day. Long story short, I was showing the GW what happened and he got to experience it first hand. GW visited the neighbor and he made some adjustments to his range. It’s all low fence, so just do what you have to do to keep it safe. They should NOT have trespassed.
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I would paint a big middle finger on the feeder facing that fence.
Ding ding. We have a winner!!!

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Old 11-26-2019, 09:57 PM   #34
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I wouldnít move the feeder. You lease every square inch of that land. My theory is this. Feeders inside fence 30yds plus and stands on fence hunting that feeder shooting into the property you lease. Now if feeder is on the fence and your stand is yards away shooting towards property line then I have a problem. As long as the projectile doesnít cross property line then leave it how it is.

Whoever left that note needs an arse whoopin and a visit from the local GW!

Move it closer or leave it where itís at and set up multiple cams in the area.
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This SECOND!!!
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:57 PM   #35
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Looks like the paper is from an animal treatment record book. Handy books but an expensive piece of scrap paper to leave a note.

https://www.pbsanimalhealth.com/prod...tmnt-rcrd-book

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Old 11-26-2019, 10:04 PM   #36
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He shouldn’t be on your property, but the feeder shouldn’t be that close to the fence if there is a provision in the lease agreement for it to be further. Your land owner very well could’ve already talked to the neighbor about this issue, which is probably why he added the distance restriction to the lease. Now the land owner has to deal with a trespassing neighbor and a lease holder who’s not upholding the lease agreement, so yeah, I’m sure he’s not real happy right now.
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He shouldnít be on your property, but the feeder shouldnít be that close to the fence if there is a provision in the lease agreement for it to be further. Your land owner very well couldíve already talked to the neighbor about this issue, which is probably why he added the distance restriction to the lease. Now the land owner has to deal with a trespassing neighbor and a lease holder whoís not upholding the lease agreement, so yeah, Iím sure heís not real happy right now.
This is sounds reasonable and probably what happened
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:19 PM   #38
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Put yourself in his shoes..
How "bee hive pizzed" are ya'll going to be if he now puts one 20 feet from the fence, on his side? And don't say ya'll wont be either..
This is exactly how silly nonsense gets started but its great for the high fence builders..
Its much easier to just be respectful of each other..

Just because it legal doesn't mean its right..
Its his property. It might annoy me and I would talk with them if itís a safety issue, but ultimately itís their land.
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:24 PM   #39
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I know itís not your place... But I think a couple dozen big ďno trespassingĒ signs along that fence line are in order. Put them on trees or t-posts about a foot off his fence.

If I was a landowner, a trespassing neighbor vandalizing my paying hunterís equipment would not be taken lightly.
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We have a hunter on our lease that has a deer feeder about 60 feet away from a property line / fence line. This feeder Ė well Ė several feeders over the years Ė has been in this location for over 6 years.

So today Ė said hunter found the attached note in the timer motor box, with the battery disconnected from the timer.

So yes we all at the lease are all bees nest hopping mad. The landowner was called and he of course is not happy. It has yet to be determined if he is upset with said hunter or trespassing neighbor. I suspect both.

What is the thought process for someone to cross fence lines, trespass and disable a feeder that is near but not on a fence line?

Does anyone recognize the paper form that the nextdoor.com like request is written on?

Yes we are all hopping mad but I want to think if all parties met at the same campfire and plenty of brews any disagreements could be easily and quickly settled.

I want to think if I was said donkey-hole in question I would have included my cellphone and email address in the note.

Hereís the suspense hook: There might be perp pics coming soon.

Disclosure: I myself had a feeder about 25 feet away from a fence line on the other side of the property - different neighbor/landowner. After reading several fence line etiquette posts here on TBH I eventually moved it away more than 100 yards away. But Iím a new guy still learning.

Also, for you TBH super-sleuths out there that can figure out the area that Iím talking about, just donít. Please. I would like to keep the drama at a minimum.

update: we will be moving said feeder another 50 yards away from the fence line this weekend.

There seem to be contradictions here.
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:30 PM   #42
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I’ve shot deer across my neighbors fence. They’ve shot deer across mine. In my opinion, it’s a strange thing to get bent out of shape over.

I find it far more strange (and sad) that people don’t KNOW their neighbors!
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:31 PM   #43
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Iíd move it closer and put a lock on the motor. Iíve never understood the whole donít hunt on a fence line deal. Rifles go 100ís or yards weather you are 60 yards or 200 yards away.
Its not his land and he has no say where the feeders are but he could high fence you out, its happened before.
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:36 PM   #44
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Back in my younger days there would have been a mid week covert mission into the heart of their property to disable every feeder I knew of.

Nightvision surveillance will reveal camera locations with IR sensors


I own EVERY SQUARE INCH of my property and will hunt where I want. I will not shoot across a property lines and I will be respectful until you trespass and mess with my property
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Its his property. It might annoy me and I would talk with them if itís a safety issue, but ultimately itís their land.
You are correct but nothing good ever comes from hunters crowding boundary fence lines.. It never has and never will.. And it is NOT safe either.
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:41 PM   #46
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Trespassing
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:49 PM   #47
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You are correct but nothing good ever comes from hunters crowding boundary fence lines.. It never has and never will.. And it is NOT safe either.
Itís safer than hiding a stand 100 yards in and then shooting towards the property. Iíd rather know whatís there.
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Back in my younger days there would have been a mid week covert mission into the heart of their property to disable every feeder I knew of.

Nightvision surveillance will reveal camera locations with IR sensors


I own EVERY SQUARE INCH of my property and will hunt where I want. I will not shoot across a property lines and I will be respectful until you trespass and mess with my property
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:51 PM   #49
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Move the feeder without saying a word. The Monday before next year's opener go disconnect every feeder battery on his property.

I'd bet $100 your note writer is over 55yo.
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:53 PM   #50
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I don’t have any problem with neighbors setting up close to the fence line.. that’s what it’s for.. If someone had a problem with me doing it I’d hope they would come discuss it or leave a phone number to call and talk about it.. what’s the next “rule” don’t shoot deer unless they are 100 yards on your property? Cause I bet no one here is gonna pass up a 170” because it’s not “far enough in their side”
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