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Old 11-20-2019, 03:46 PM   #1
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I'm in the market for a gun safe and with Black Friday coming up, figured it might be a good time to pick one up. Any recommendations on places to shop or models to look at? Looking for at least a 40 gun model.
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:52 PM   #2
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Tractor supply has good deals
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:56 PM   #3
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:57 PM   #4
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Tractor supply has good deals
They have a sale starting Friday.
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:59 PM   #5
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Get it delivered. I am still carrying my nuts in the back pocket of my britches from the last safe I dragged around.
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Old 11-20-2019, 04:03 PM   #6
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Look at safes on these 2 websites and read up about them. Depending upon the level of
security you desire, you may not want to look at the box store safes.

www.amsecusa.com
www.hollonsafe.com

I retail both of these, as well as service all makes and models of safes. Some versions of
the box store safes use metal so thin you could punch a hole with an ice pick.

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Old 11-20-2019, 04:22 PM   #7
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Academy has a 64 gun Cannon safe for $599 and a 24 gun for $299 on their black friday add.

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Old 11-20-2019, 04:32 PM   #8
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I am in for this one. I am in the market myself.
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Old 11-20-2019, 04:38 PM   #9
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Look at Liberty I have a Franklin Series. I think they are worth the money.
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Old 11-20-2019, 04:43 PM   #10
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tagged as i'm in the market as well
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Old 11-20-2019, 06:09 PM   #11
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I went with a Superior and am very happy. Do your research. There is a lot to consider such as number of live locking bolts, thickness of door/walls/top, thermal rating, number of steps in the door that keep a prybar out, type of lock etc.

A lot of the box store "safes" are not difficult to get into, especially with a little time. Try rattling the door on one at academy. Also, the door may be 5 inches thick but most of that is air, not steel.

Decide what do you want it for? To keep kids hands away? Then an academy safe will work. Do you have a lot of money invested in the contents and want to protect from a burglar? You will have more piece of mind with a better safe. I suggest you find a local company that specializes in safes and check them out.

Lastly, buy twice as big as you think you need. Guns multiply and your wife will find things that need to go in there too!
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Old 11-20-2019, 06:10 PM   #12
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Get on youtube and check out some videos of people easily getting into cheap safes.
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:26 PM   #13
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My house burnt up in February. The only thing that survived the fire was the contents in my Browning Hells Canyon 65
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:30 PM   #14
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:12 PM   #15
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This guy is not too far from you. Ive had two of his. Always buy the one larger than you think you need.
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:43 PM   #16
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^^^^^^ worth repeating. AWAYS BUY BIGGER THAN WHAT NEED
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:44 PM   #17
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AMSEC B&F Series are top shelf...
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:47 PM   #18
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^^^^^^ worth repeating. AWAYS BUY BIGGER THAN WHAT NEED
x3 I'd like to meet the person who sizes these things, and kick them in the shins. A scoped rifle basically takes up 2 spots.
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:49 PM   #19
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If you buy a gun at academy you get an additional 10% off their gun safes.

I bought a Stack-On Total Defense 69 from Gander last year (only because they had a sale) and when I was shopping for them if you created a free account online with Gander you'd get an additional 10% off and free shipping. I paid around $950 total, shipped and delivered to my garage.
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:50 PM   #20
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x3 I'd like to meet the person who sizes these things, and kick them in the shins. A scoped rifle basically takes up 2 spots.
AR's are worse, they take up 3 spots.
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:00 PM   #21
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Might want to consider the Liberty Fatboy Jr. I think this model is one of the best bangs for your buck. Even better would be one of the Liberty safes that are not labeled with those model names. Some of the discount stores sell Liberty safes that are actually Fatboy Jr (and other models) safe without the moniker. For example Atwood Farm and Home stores do this at quite a discount.
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Old 11-21-2019, 07:59 PM   #22
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I bought a Liberty Fatboy from gander mountain before they closed in College Station. Holds 48 guns. Always buy larger than you think you’ll need cause you’ll put a lot of stuff in it. I would also recommend buying a “Saf-e-Lert with it. It sends text messages and email alerts to up to five numbers if there is motion, tampering, a change in heat etc. well worth the money.
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Old 11-21-2019, 08:13 PM   #23
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Buy the biggest liberty safe you can afford.
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Old 11-21-2019, 08:24 PM   #24
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Look at Moore security out of the Tomball area. Bought from them and had it delivered multiple times. Best money spent for various reasons. Used them every time I have moved.


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Old 11-21-2019, 08:36 PM   #25
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I had a cannon. It broke twice, I was not impressed. Bought a liberty Fatboy. its legit.
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Old 11-21-2019, 10:54 PM   #26
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yeah...if you think a 40 is gonna work then get the 52 or biggest one that fits through the door. You will end up putting more valuables besides firearms. I have an amsec that was really painful to hand over the $$$ & upped the size all I could 20yrs ago & so glad I did.

The 2nd B&F was a no-brainer & got the big one...albeit still painful on the wallet.
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Old 11-21-2019, 11:12 PM   #27
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Talk to.Fred Trotter at Houston Safe and Lock


https://www.houstonsafeandlock.net/

Grab an amSec from him.

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Old 11-22-2019, 10:01 AM   #28
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I've heard to avoid cheap box store safes, because the locking mechanisms are unreliable.
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Old 11-22-2019, 10:18 AM   #29
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I ordered a Liberty 36 that should deliver mid next month. I looked at a ton of them and it was my favorite in my budget. Excellent construction from what I’ve read and seen.
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Old 11-22-2019, 10:28 AM   #30
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I went with a Superior and am very happy. Do your research. There is a lot to consider such as number of live locking bolts, thickness of door/walls/top, thermal rating, number of steps in the door that keep a prybar out, type of lock etc.

A lot of the box store "safes" are not difficult to get into, especially with a little time. Try rattling the door on one at academy. Also, the door may be 5 inches thick but most of that is air, not steel.

Decide what do you want it for? To keep kids hands away? Then an academy safe will work. Do you have a lot of money invested in the contents and want to protect from a burglar? You will have more piece of mind with a better safe. I suggest you find a local company that specializes in safes and check them out.

Lastly, buy twice as big as you think you need. Guns multiply and your wife will find things that need to go in there too!

This right here though I would recommend 3x larger than you think you need. Most underestimate what they need. a 21 long gun safe does not comfortably hold 21 long guns. I think when they measure they use flat rubber band guns. Bolt guns usually take most of two slots unless you don't mind bumping things up against each other. I went with rhino brand safe, one of the Iron Works just because it looked cool.
https://rhinosafe.com/kodiak-ksb5928...ng-gun-60-min/

If you are going to invest the money buy something worthwhile. I purchased mine from a local company, they cut me a deal, delivered and installed the safes. It was worth every penny.
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Old 11-22-2019, 01:35 PM   #31
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Remember when you get a 40 gun safe that's really 40 b-b guns without scopes.
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:12 PM   #32
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I did a ton of research a couple years ago when I built my house and determined unless you're spending 8-10K its all relative and you're really just buying extra time and/or fire protection.
As in the more you spend you longer it takes for a competent burglar to get into it.
It's not a matter of if it can keep them out or not but how long it can keep them out for because they're getting into it if they want to bad enough.
I have a Rhino Metals USA line safe I'm happy with.
Get a good quality unit, place it in an area that makes it harder to crack and have it bolted to the slab.
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Old 11-22-2019, 08:13 PM   #33
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Derrik
You live in Magnolia, Take the drive down to "Safes R Us" on I-10 just west of the Beltway 8 East loop. This is a Family owned business and services all brands and is factory authorized to service many of the Major brands. Even if you don't buy there, you will leave with a better education. (Yes this is where I spent my money.)

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Old 11-22-2019, 08:20 PM   #34
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My safe is made by the National Security Safe Co.
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Old 12-02-2019, 06:03 PM   #35
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I'm in the market for a gun safe and with Black Friday coming up, figured it might be a good time to pick one up. Any recommendations on places to shop or models to look at? Looking for at least a 40 gun model.
After a little research, I scored a great deal on the Fatboy Jr XL.... here's a link to the Cyber Monday sale

https://www.libertysafe.com/cyber-mo...04-p-3507.html
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Old 12-03-2019, 10:36 AM   #36
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After a little research, I scored a great deal on the Fatboy Jr XL.... here's a link to the Cyber Monday sale

https://www.libertysafe.com/cyber-mo...04-p-3507.html
Those are great units! you won't be disappointed!
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Old 12-03-2019, 05:23 PM   #37
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Well, I ended up buying the academy 64 gun Cannon deal since I really don't need ultimate protection and it's a huge upgrade from the closet everything is in now. Problem now is they are going to drop the safe by my front door this week. There was not a setup option when I checked out. I will have to get it from the front door, up a 4" threshold and about 10' max to my office - all tile and wood. Can this be done with an appliance dolly or furniture dolly with 2-3 guys?
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Old 12-03-2019, 05:31 PM   #38
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Well, I ended up buying the academy 64 gun Cannon deal since I really don't need ultimate protection and it's a huge upgrade from the closet everything is in now. Problem now is they are going to drop the safe by my front door this week. There was not a setup option when I checked out. I will have to get it from the front door, up a 4" threshold and about 10' max to my office - all tile and wood. Can this be done with an appliance dolly or furniture dolly with 2-3 guys?
Depends on the weight. Handling 600 lbs is tough, but do-able. Over that weight would be challenging. Once you get it inside, you could set carpet squares or something else that slides under the corners of the safe and push it to were you want it placed. Use door frame shims (wood) to level the safe so the door does not swing open on it's own, especially if you are not bolting it down in place.

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Well, I ended up buying the academy 64 gun Cannon deal since I really don't need ultimate protection and it's a huge upgrade from the closet everything is in now. Problem now is they are going to drop the safe by my front door this week. There was not a setup option when I checked out. I will have to get it from the front door, up a 4" threshold and about 10' max to my office - all tile and wood. Can this be done with an appliance dolly or furniture dolly with 2-3 guys?
You could just dolly or pallet jack it into your garage and schedule some pros to come move it from there to your desired location and install it (bolt it to the slab, level, etc). If they break or damage anything they pay for the repairs. Because if you damage anything doing it yourself it's liable to cost as much as the install.

EDIT: Bolt it to the slab in an enclosure/closet/corner... it makes it much harder form potential thieves to crack

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Old 12-04-2019, 03:46 PM   #40
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https://youtu.be/l-9vWa-C44I

Just for thought. You get what you pay for when it comes to safes.
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:47 PM   #41
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I used about 4 pieces of 3 inch PVC pipe and rolled it it was very easy the more Pipe the less pressure on the tile
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:49 PM   #42
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I bought the same one on Black Friday. I went and picked it up with my 4 wheeler trailer. 3 of the guys that work at the Pearland Academy loaded it up with a standard solid rubber tire dolly. My FNL had an appliance dolly that I borrowed. When I got home I was relieved to see my neighbor outside hanging Christmas lights. We got it off of the trailer and in the house with out issue. If I were you I would pull all of the shelves, dividers, and the floor out. Then move it. The hardest thing was tipping it over on the dolly.
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Old 12-04-2019, 03:52 PM   #43
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Just for thought. You get what you pay for when it comes to safes.
I bet that poor SOB is def after that video!
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Old 12-05-2019, 11:52 AM   #44
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https://youtu.be/l-9vWa-C44I

Just for thought. You get what you pay for when it comes to safes.
That guy is just peddling some cabinet he's selling.
You can cut the side off a safe with a grinder and cutoff wheel, but you'll notice that video isn't in real time because it takes time, is super loud, and he's full of **** that it wasn't making any smoke lol.
Safes should be used as a part of a larger system. If you have camera and/or alarm system you think he'd be able to cut the side off before the local PD showed up?
Hell, I'm sure my neighbors wouldn't think anything of a random vehicle being parked at my house for a while someone is inside grinding away while i'm out of town.

Get a safe, bolt it down, get some monitoring, get to know your neighbors and let them know if you're going out of town.

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