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Old 05-13-2022, 10:19 PM   #1
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Anyone have experience with 300 plus grain pills out of the 44 mag? Iím looking to push some heave cast pills around 1000fps from a suppressed contender SBR.


GT bullets has some 305gr cast hollow points that look good they have a bhn of 10 I believe so the should expand some.
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Old 05-13-2022, 10:23 PM   #2
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I don't see gas checks on those bullets. I'd worry about barrel leading.
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Old 05-13-2022, 10:29 PM   #3
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I load the 300 hornady XTP it expands at subsonic and is jacketed so no leading up supressor
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H110 powder would be an excellent starting point.
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Old 05-14-2022, 07:06 AM   #5
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H110 powder would be an excellent starting point.
Thatís what my plan is. Iíve got 10-13lbs of it.
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I don't see gas checks on those bullets. I'd worry about barrel leading.
Didnít think gas checks were needed at lower velocity.
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I load the 300 hornady XTP it expands at subsonic and is jacketed so no leading up supressor
Leading the suppressor is a bit of a concern but silencerco said that as long as your not pushing soft alloys hard they should be fine. They also told me to do a mag dump every now and then to cook it all out.
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Didnít think gas checks were needed at lower velocity.
At 1000 fps you should be fine without. I think it becomes a problem around 1200 and with softer lead. You could also look at powder coating your bullets which would also alleviate any concern if velocities got higher. Cheap and easy to do on your own too.
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I have not dealt with silencerco so cannot comment on their advice. But, to me, that's taking a chance that if it were mine I would not be willing to take. Please let us know how it works out.
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Old 05-14-2022, 07:14 PM   #10
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I have not dealt with silencerco so cannot comment on their advice. But, to me, that's taking a chance that if it were mine I would not be willing to take. Please let us know how it works out.
Iíve shot a fair amount of hard cast powder coated 300blk and 458 socom all subsonic velocity without issue yet. Key word yet.. I saved the emails from them just in case
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Old 05-15-2022, 11:17 AM   #11
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went down that road some time back , got some 300gr gas check ... had a hard time getting them to shoot as good as i wanted ... switched to xtp 300's and shrank my group quite a bit... i'd have to look at my card of reload to remember what i used but it wasn't h110 .. if i recall h110 isn't the greatest for lead bullets ... but don't quote me on that.

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went down that road some time back , got some 300gr gas check ... had a hard time getting them to shoot as good as i wanted ... switched to xtp 300's and shrank my group quite a bit... i'd have to look at my card of reload to remember what i used but it wasn't h110 .. if i recall h110 isn't the greatest for lead bullets ... but don't quote me on that.

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Main reason Iíd like to go with cast is price, Iíll be able to load 2-3:1 those xtps are a big spendy, and hard to come by.
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I cast the Lyman 429649 bullet at 345 grains, I usually load it over 15 to 17 grains of 2400. It is one of the most accurate bullets there is in .44 magnum. I also have the Lee 310 grain .44 mold. Use the same powder charges, it isn't quite as accurate as the Lyman design, but has a larger meplat.I think Western Cast Bullet company sells the Lyman bullet.
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Old 05-16-2022, 10:37 PM   #14
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I cast the Lyman 429649 bullet at 345 grains, I usually load it over 15 to 17 grains of 2400. It is one of the most accurate bullets there is in .44 magnum. I also have the Lee 310 grain .44 mold. Use the same powder charges, it isn't quite as accurate as the Lyman design, but has a larger meplat.I think Western Cast Bullet company sells the Lyman bullet.
Would you be interested in casting me some? Iíd be more than willing to pay you for them.
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Old 05-17-2022, 07:49 AM   #15
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Coated or gas checked would be the only way I would go. An exposed lead base creates a build up on my pistol comps so I can only imagine what the build up would look like on a suppressor baffle.

Missouri Bullet Company has a nice 300gn WFN coated bullet. I bought a few to try and and they were very accurate out of my revolvers.

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Old 05-17-2022, 08:54 AM   #16
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I've been seriously considering getting into casting my own for a 45 colt I have on order. I'm thinking an MP Mould that drops cast hollow points in the 255-275 grain range. Then powder coat them. This would be an excellent set up from deer to elk out of the 45 colt.
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I've been seriously considering getting into casting my own for a 45 colt I have on order. I'm thinking an MP Mould that drops cast hollow points in the 255-275 grain range. Then powder coat them. This would be an excellent set up from deer to elk out of the 45 colt.
Just have to find a supply of lead, which is getting harder to source.

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Andre, I’ve been using powder coat with the few cast bullets I do use, I planted on getting either coated or GC bullets. I am a newb when it comes to cast thanks for the info!
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Old 05-18-2022, 04:18 PM   #20
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The elk in my avatar was taken with a 310 grain LEE GC bullet. I shot her 3 times, two went through the heart. One shattered the off side shoulder. Two of the bullets passed through.

The load was a stout dose of H110 (I don’t remember off hand). I’ve shot full-length through decent dived hogs with the same combo.
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Would you be interested in casting me some? Iíd be more than willing to pay you for them.
I can, but I'd recommend you to buying something like the Missouri Bullet company's 300 grain "Hammer" It can be had with HiTek coating, it's a plain base without gascheck, which should be all you need if you are going subsonic, and you can order more as needed from their website. The big Lyman bullet that I cast is a bore riding design that might possibly give trouble chambering if it's powder coated. And you want powder coated if you are going to shoot through a suppressor...
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Old 05-18-2022, 04:48 PM   #22
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I've been seriously considering getting into casting my own for a 45 colt I have on order. I'm thinking an MP Mould that drops cast hollow points in the 255-275 grain range. Then powder coat them. This would be an excellent set up from deer to elk out of the 45 colt.
That's a good weight range for the .45 Colt. For a heavier slug, I cast the 330 grain hollowpoint Gould bullet by Lyman. It's made for .45/70, but will size down to .452 nicely. And since it isn't a bore riding design, it works well powder coated.
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Don't you need to swage your own cast bullets? Just asking cause I don't know.
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Coated or gas checked would be the only way I would go. An exposed lead base creates a build up on my pistol comps so I can only imagine what the build up would look like on a suppressor baffle.

Missouri Bullet Company has a nice 300gn WFN coated bullet. I bought a few to try and and they were very accurate out of my revolvers.

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i've tried those , they may be pistol accurate , but not rifle accurate .. I messed with coated and gas check lead , none compared to the xtp's
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