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TXUSMC · 11-19-2021, 03:39 PM

My son put a clutch in his car. First test drive all is well in 1st, shifts to 2nd, let’s off the clutch then heard a loud bang or pop and now no forward or reverse gears. Drive shaft is not turning. Curious what it might be before we tear it all back apart. 2001 BMW 330i. Thanks in advance.

kurt68 · 11-19-2021, 04:09 PM

Does it have a throwout bearing?

TXUSMC · 11-19-2021, 04:12 PM

Brand new with the clutch kit.

TXUSMC · 11-19-2021, 04:13 PM

I’m thinking trans let go on the inside.

bowhuntntxn · 11-19-2021, 04:17 PM

How does the pedal feel when he pushes it in? Does it hang or it there any resistance? I bet something ni the clutch pack popped out of place and has bound the drive train up.

Strummer · 11-19-2021, 04:24 PM

Slave cylinder?

BTLowry · 11-19-2021, 05:14 PM

At what RPM did he dump clutch into 2nd?

Can you shift through gears with clutch engaged but no output from trans?

Sounds a lot like something inside trans

TXUSMC · 11-19-2021, 06:25 PM

No change in pedal. Slave is working. Car can be pushed while in gear. Not sure on RPM. No transfer of power in any gear.

RifleBowPistol · 11-19-2021, 07:16 PM

Whatever it is, you are going to have to tear it apart. Whatever happened is not normal. I would almost say the disc is some cheap piece and it just broke in some form, rivets, broke the splined hub loose from the outer part of the hub.

The transmission may have just taken a crap.

I have blown up a brand new Ford Motorsport heavy duty disc, the old beast clutches before the King Cobras. Blew it up on the second pass down the track, right after we put it in. Took all of the friction material off the disc, then when I pushed the clutch in, it packed all of the pieces of friction material on one side of the pressure plate and made it direct drive. The clutch pedal was just swinging.

That was the replacement clutch for a brand new Zoom clutch, that I smoked on the first test drive. If that car was not killing tires, it was killing the clutch or the rear end. Blew the rear end up, 50 yards from the driveway, right after we finished building the car.

It's hard to say what is broken, but something is definitely broken. Does it make any noises, when you put it in gear and let the clutch out?

glennp · 11-19-2021, 07:18 PM

Sounds like the Tail shift on the transmission is toast

TXUSMC · 11-19-2021, 08:01 PM

No noises with clutch pedal engagement. We’re gonna pull it, was just curious if there was a magic trick.

hoythunter · 11-21-2021, 05:51 PM

Had my old Chevy truck do that when turning 1 day. Main shaft in tranny broke. Had to rebuild the trans.

TXUSMC · 11-30-2021, 04:50 PM

So what we found was the center splined section of the clutch disc is not fixed to the rest of the disc. You can turn it by hand freely independent of the disc. Is that supposed to be that way? Nothing else looks out of sorts.

RJH1 · 11-30-2021, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TXUSMC

So what we found was the center splined section of the clutch disc is not fixed to the rest of the disc. You can turn it by hand freely independent of the disc. Is that supposed to be that way? Nothing else looks out of sorts.

It shouldn't do that

TXUSMC · 11-30-2021, 06:15 PM

I didn’t think so, but it’s a BMW. It turns so smooth it’s like it’s supposed to be that way.

BTLowry · 11-30-2021, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXUSMC

So what we found was the center splined section of the clutch disc is not fixed to the rest of the disc. You can turn it by hand freely independent of the disc. Is that supposed to be that way? Nothing else looks out of sorts.

You found the problem
Definitely not supposed to free spin

11-19-2021, 03:39 PM	#1
TXUSMC Eight Point Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Glen Rose, TX	Auto Mechanical Help Needed My son put a clutch in his car. First test drive all is well in 1st, shifts to 2nd, let’s off the clutch then heard a loud bang or pop and now no forward or reverse gears. Drive shaft is not turning. Curious what it might be before we tear it all back apart. 2001 BMW 330i. Thanks in advance.

11-19-2021, 06:25 PM	#8
TXUSMC Eight Point Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Glen Rose, TX	No change in pedal. Slave is working. Car can be pushed while in gear. Not sure on RPM. No transfer of power in any gear. Last edited by TXUSMC; 11-19-2021 at 06:32 PM.

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11-19-2021, 04:09 PM	#2
kurt68 Ten Point Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spring Hunt In: Waller County, Rocksprings and "H"	Does it have a throwout bearing?

11-19-2021, 04:12 PM	#3
TXUSMC Eight Point Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Glen Rose, TX	Brand new with the clutch kit.

11-19-2021, 04:13 PM	#4
TXUSMC Eight Point Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Glen Rose, TX	I’m thinking trans let go on the inside.

11-19-2021, 04:17 PM	#5
bowhuntntxn Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Denton, TX	How does the pedal feel when he pushes it in? Does it hang or it there any resistance? I bet something ni the clutch pack popped out of place and has bound the drive train up.

11-19-2021, 04:24 PM	#6
Strummer Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edna Tx Hunt In: At Gary's place ,and the backyard	Slave cylinder?

11-19-2021, 05:14 PM	#7
BTLowry Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lindale Hunt In: Behind the house and public in Texas; Kansas Unit 5	At what RPM did he dump clutch into 2nd? Can you shift through gears with clutch engaged but no output from trans? Sounds a lot like something inside trans

11-19-2021, 07:16 PM	#9
RifleBowPistol Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2017	Whatever it is, you are going to have to tear it apart. Whatever happened is not normal. I would almost say the disc is some cheap piece and it just broke in some form, rivets, broke the splined hub loose from the outer part of the hub. The transmission may have just taken a crap. I have blown up a brand new Ford Motorsport heavy duty disc, the old beast clutches before the King Cobras. Blew it up on the second pass down the track, right after we put it in. Took all of the friction material off the disc, then when I pushed the clutch in, it packed all of the pieces of friction material on one side of the pressure plate and made it direct drive. The clutch pedal was just swinging. That was the replacement clutch for a brand new Zoom clutch, that I smoked on the first test drive. If that car was not killing tires, it was killing the clutch or the rear end. Blew the rear end up, 50 yards from the driveway, right after we finished building the car. It's hard to say what is broken, but something is definitely broken. Does it make any noises, when you put it in gear and let the clutch out?

11-19-2021, 07:18 PM	#10
glennp Six Point Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: League City Hunt In: Middle of Nowhere west Texas	Sounds like the Tail shift on the transmission is toast

11-19-2021, 08:01 PM	#11
TXUSMC Eight Point Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Glen Rose, TX	No noises with clutch pedal engagement. We’re gonna pull it, was just curious if there was a magic trick.

11-21-2021, 05:51 PM	#12
hoythunter Ten Point Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Magnolia Hunt In: Montgomery County	Had my old Chevy truck do that when turning 1 day. Main shaft in tranny broke. Had to rebuild the trans.

11-30-2021, 04:50 PM	#13
TXUSMC Eight Point Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Glen Rose, TX	So what we found was the center splined section of the clutch disc is not fixed to the rest of the disc. You can turn it by hand freely independent of the disc. Is that supposed to be that way? Nothing else looks out of sorts.

11-30-2021, 06:15 PM	#15
TXUSMC Eight Point Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Glen Rose, TX	I didn’t think so, but it’s a BMW. It turns so smooth it’s like it’s supposed to be that way.