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Old 09-28-2021, 01:58 PM   #1
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What's a middle of the road shotgun gonna cost me? I don't need a high dollar gun that I'm afraid to hunt with cause it looks to nice, but I also don't want one that's gonna knock my shoulder off each time I shoot it. What's some good brands/models to look for?
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:59 PM   #2
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Don’t buy a $400 Yildiz
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Old 09-28-2021, 02:04 PM   #3
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Beretta or Browning
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Old 09-28-2021, 02:06 PM   #4
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Middle of the road is going to be $1000 or so.

Skip the yildiz Daly’s and stoegers.
IMo the next gun up from these listed above is going to be the Franchi (aspire I think). Next up will be a base model Citori then a base mode beretta. The good thing about O/U is the durability. You can buy a great used gun, save hundreds of dollars and have a gun that will last forever unless you plan on shooting sporting clays weekly!
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Don’t buy a $400 Yildiz
Lol!!

CZ makes a decent sub $1k gun. Otherwise keep your eye on the classifieds.
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Stoeger M3500

Just now realizing it says over/under... scratch that

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I'm a Beretta fan myself. Have pounded several thousand rounds through a few and they are beast!
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Old 09-28-2021, 02:27 PM   #8
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Don’t buy a $400 Yildiz
and why is that? Actually they're more than that but anyway, is a nice gun.
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What is your budget??
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Stick with an automatic shootgun....them two-holers are like high maintenance women!
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and why is that? Actually they're more than that but anyway, is a nice gun.
They are nice but they kick. An after market recoil pad is offered for them and it made mine much more enjoyable

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Old 09-28-2021, 02:40 PM   #12
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Make sure the gun fits you first. Biggest mistake in buying a shotgun is going after brand
someone suggests and then it does not fit. Agree with the above post so far as far as quality and fair price.
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Old 09-28-2021, 02:40 PM   #13
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They are nice but they kick. An after market recoil pad is offered for them and it made mine much more enjoyable

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A 3/4 steel dowel in the butt adds weight and drops the kick even more. Gives them a better feel

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someone suggests and then it does not fit. Agree with the above post so far as far as quality and fair price.
Exactly right. Fit is the most important aspect if quality is the same. I can’t shoot a Beretta worth spit, but I can shoot the heck out of a Browning. They are just stocked differently.
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and why is that? Actually they're more than that but anyway, is a nice gun.
Nice to look at. Will kick the snot outta you.
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Old 09-28-2021, 02:45 PM   #16
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Bought both my boys Winchester 101 for graduation.They are a nice guns for the money.Just bought a Browning Citori it is Nice, but more money.
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If I was to choose either Beretta 686/694 or Caesar Guerini
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Old 09-28-2021, 02:48 PM   #18
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I have a Yildiz 20 that doesn’t kick terribly.
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Yildiz makes a steel receiver model, so it's a little heavier than the alloy. It won't kick quite as much.

If you can spend $1,000, then look for a good used Browning or Beretta or other quality maker's gun. Make sure it fits you, as several have mentioned. Good fit equates to less recoil and better shot percentage.
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and why is that? Actually they're more than that but anyway, is a nice gun.
Mine, has served me well, for many years.
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Old 09-28-2021, 03:16 PM   #21
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Would like to keep it under $1,000


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Old 09-28-2021, 03:18 PM   #22
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Nice to look at. Will kick the snot outta you.
that is true, it is a light shotgun for a 12 ga. I'd prefer the 20 myself.
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Old 09-28-2021, 03:45 PM   #23
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Mine kicks like a mule and my bead must be off, can hit much.
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Old 09-28-2021, 03:49 PM   #24
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Exactly right. Fit is the most important aspect if quality is the same. I can’t shoot a Beretta worth spit, but I can shoot the heck out of a Browning. They are just stocked differently.
Brownings generally have more stock drop than Beretta's being the main difference.
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For $1000.00 you can get these 12 ga over under.

Steel receiver or sporting version Yildiz (they is heavier and kick less)
CZ
Tri-Star - I have heard good things.
Used Browning Citori if you look real hard. Google Browning Salt guns and try to avoid one from those years.
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Old 09-28-2021, 03:53 PM   #26
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Brownings generally have more stock drop than Beretta's being the main difference.
Is this for over and unders only or just Browning in general? I have a Browning gold semi auto, and it shoots well for me
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Is this for over and unders only or just Browning in general? I have a Browning gold semi auto, and it shoots well for me
Browning in general. Probably, if you shoot that Browning gold well then you will like the citori. Some people can switch between parallel stocked guns and guns with more drop more easily than others.
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Nice to look at. Will kick the snot outta you.
There's 3 easy solutions to that.
1. Get the steel receiver version, weighs a little more and helps with recoil.
2. Get a limbsaver recoil pad
3. Man up

I've shot duck loads out of mine with no issue.

As far as which one to get, in the sub $1000 range all of the over/unders are going to be made in turkey. Yildiz, CZ, Weatherby, TriStar, all of them are import guns and about the same quality. About the only one that isn't is Stoeger, which is made in Brazil, and is the only one I'd avoid due to quality issues. Grab whichever feels best and go from there, or pony up for a Beretta/Browning if you want to start to know what a nice OU is like. Me, I'm cheap so I shoot the Yildiz
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There's 3 easy solutions to that.
1. Get the steel receiver version, weighs a little more and helps with recoil.
2. Get a limbsaver recoil pad
3. Man up

I've shot duck loads out of mine with no issue.

As far as which one to get, in the sub $1000 range all of the over/unders are going to be made in turkey. Yildiz, CZ, Weatherby, TriStar, all of them are import guns and about the same quality. About the only one that isn't is Stoeger, which is made in Brazil, and is the only one I'd avoid due to quality issues. Grab whichever feels best and go from there, or pony up for a Beretta/Browning if you want to start to know what a nice OU is like. Me, I'm cheap so I shoot the Yildiz
I’ll try to be more manly. You must own one of these pieces of crap. Lol
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Winchester 101 is a nice gun but I really like my son's Ruger Red Label.
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Don’t overlook the Savage and Mossberg O/Us for a pretty nice mid-range shotgun. My buddy shoots a Savage, pretty nice gun for $600 or so. The Mossberg Gold Reserve is getting good reviews at $1,000 or less but I have no idea how they fit. You just have to go pick up one and see how it fits you.
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I was looking for the same thing.

I went with a Weatherby O/U. Cost me $850 for 12 guage 28" barrel. Nice gun with ejectors.
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I’ll try to be more manly. You must own one of these pieces of crap. Lol
Man up was in jest, but yes, I own one of those "pieces of crap" and it shoots just as good as any gun in that price range. Unless you're recoil sensitive, it ain't the mule kicker you make it out to be. For reference, the Stevens and the Tristar are both also 7lb guns. I guess you only shoot 10lb Purdeys and Kreighoffs though, and a 3.5" Benelli is a piece of crap because it thumps a little right? LOL

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Lol!!

CZ makes a decent sub $1k gun. Otherwise keep your eye on the classifieds.
I bought the CZ after great reviews. Would not fire the second shell if top barrel first was selected. Had to ship it to CZ and they made it right but disappointing and inconvenient. That said, I've shot hundreds of rounds through it since and really like it.

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Man up was in jest, but yes, I own one of those "pieces of crap" and it shoots just as good as any gun in that price range. Unless you're recoil sensitive, it ain't the mule kicker you make it out to be. For reference, the Stevens and the Tristar are both also 7lb guns. I guess you only shoot 10lb Purdeys and Kreighoffs though, and a 3.5" Benelli is a piece of crap because it thumps a little right? LOL

Shouldn’t have to add crap to a gun out of the box to make it tolerable to shoot.


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Man up was in jest, but yes, I own one of those "pieces of crap" and it shoots just as good as any gun in that price range. Unless you're recoil sensitive, it ain't the mule kicker you make it out to be. For reference, the Stevens and the Tristar are both also 7lb guns. I guess you only shoot 10lb Purdeys and Kreighoffs though, and a 3.5" Benelli is a piece of crap because it thumps a little right? LOL

He owned one for 4 years. He probably has a good idea....I've seen the bruises after shooting light dove loads....
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i have a steel frame yildez with the limbsaver. I only dove hunt a few times a year and pheasant hunt for about 3 days. I like mine
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Man up was in jest, but yes, I own one of those "pieces of crap" and it shoots just as good as any gun in that price range. Unless you're recoil sensitive, it ain't the mule kicker you make it out to be. For reference, the Stevens and the Tristar are both also 7lb guns. I guess you only shoot 10lb Purdeys and Kreighoffs though, and a 3.5" Benelli is a piece of crap because it thumps a little right? LOL

I guess I am “recoil sensitive!”

…and get in a hurry and hold shotgun a little low to the arm when a big group comes thru.

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^^^Yikes!

I enjoyed my Franci Alcione at about $1100 but I like my Browning Lightning Citori more but Tack on another $500 at least.
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I guess I am “recoil sensitive!”

…and get in a hurry and hold shotgun a little low to the arm when a big group comes thru.





OP, see exhibit A as to why a shotgun needs to fit and proper form is important. I popped a round off on my arm like that once, it'll wake you up, and teach you to mount properly.

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Worse yet is an ounce and a half 3.5" magnum turkey load hunched over the gun off a bench.
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I cant wait to show my wife who shot a 20ga yildiz for years and never managed to do that the picture. And in my small knowledge of shotguns, and shooting 2-3 flats a month till this year. A poor mount is the reason for that bruise and even a $20,000.00 properly fitted gun would have done the same when you mount on your arm and not in the pocket.

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A CLEAN USED gun is the way to go for what you want.

If you have an outfit that handles a lot of used guns, I would go fondle some Browning Citori's & Ruger red labels, along with any other's they have in that price window...like stated, the key is to find what fits you & that will take a lot of the kick out.

I'm a big beretta fan, but the 686 / 687 family field guns knock the snot out of 'me'...their sporting guns rock, but not in your budget.

Just consider the model & price window (even if a little high @ retail)...once you find something that's gonna work, then shop & compare pricing of the same rigs. Don't be fooled, a $900 gun online could be asking $1200 on the shelf. Look, fondle, then buy.
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I cant wait to show my wife who shot a 20ga yildiz for years and never managed to do that the picture. And in my small knowledge of shotguns, and shooting 2-3 flats a month till this year. A poor mount is the reason for that bruise and even a $20,000.00 properly fitted gun would have done the same when you mount on your arm and not in the pocket.

The Indian and not the arrow comes to mind
Ever been on blood thinners?
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I cant wait to show my wife who shot a 20ga yildiz for years and never managed to do that the picture. And in my small knowledge of shotguns, and shooting 2-3 flats a month till this year. A poor mount is the reason for that bruise and even a $20,000.00 properly fitted gun would have done the same when you mount on your arm and not in the pocket.

The Indian and not the arrow comes to mind

My buddy was shooting my old 870 this past season and was getting in a hurry and not mounting the gun on his shoulder and ended up with a alarm close to that. He bruises like a peach.


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