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Old 03-01-2021, 09:52 PM   #101
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That's right in line with my plans.

I'm building a 7 SAUM cut for 180 vlds so it's on a long action.
Vx6hd 3-18 at 23 ounces so about the same as the vx5. Could save some weight here but there's a long range performance trade-off plus I already have the scope.
For the 7-08, I'd take a hard look at the 2-12 Vx6hd. If I was after all out weight savings I'd go this route and would have built a short action Sammi spec reamer vs the long throat.
20 moa rail and hawkins rings. Could save 2-3 ounces by ditching the rail and going talley.

I'm estimating 8.5-9 pounds scoped with suppressor and bipod.

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Thinking about the same set up this year. What kind of velocity you hoping to get with the SAUM and the 180ís?
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Old 03-02-2021, 04:06 PM   #102
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Just got mine ordered!!! This will be my second APR.
6.5PRC 1:8 twist 24Ē Artic ambush sponge. Canít wait
Thanks Hunter for answering all my questions.
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Old 03-02-2021, 05:24 PM   #103
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Thinking about the same set up this year. What kind of velocity you hoping to get with the SAUM and the 180’s?
Some very basic playing around with the numbers say the 180s with with the .195 reamer will be 3.1 inches long. With H1k at 20 inches it's looking like 2750 max in QL but I'm reading about as much as 2850-2900 from others in short barrels. I think this is a little high for the round in a 20 inch barrel so take it with a grain of salt. FWIW, QL states 2865 for a 30 Nos and 230 Berger with 83.6 of H1k. Mine is running at 2975 avg after about 150 rounds on the Muller barrel.

I generally approach these builds with a goal in mind factoring this bullet / velocity goal when selecting barrel length or cartridge. This build was planned at 18-22 inches from the start with a short mag variant in mind. I knew going in this wouldn't be a speed demon.

For me it was a 6.5 or 7 mm VLD that would be good for 600 yards at sea level with a minimum impact velocity of 1800 fps.

Per the Berger site, 2650 fps at 100 asl will get me to 775 yards which exceeds the goal.

I considered the WSM line and the Sherman shorts but kept going back to the SAUM due to top quality brass, dies and it's accuracy reputation combined.

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Old 03-03-2021, 07:52 AM   #104
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Order is in.
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Old 03-03-2021, 01:48 PM   #105
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Order is in
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Old 03-04-2021, 07:21 AM   #106
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Order is in
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Old 03-04-2021, 08:33 AM   #107
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Old 03-04-2021, 05:06 PM   #108
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Old 03-05-2021, 04:35 PM   #109
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Order is in, Option 1 in 6.5prc/LA.. Went by the shop this morning & had a great visit with Garrett. Buzz, thanks for the guidance-
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Old 03-05-2021, 05:49 PM   #110
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What did you do?
I kinda went out of the box and ordered a rifle not included in the TBH buy. Needed a heavy gun , mcMillan stock, all different components.

Think i'll keep this one forever

Now ya'll go buy my Volquartsen .22lr's I have for sale. I need the $$ to pay for this beast
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Old 03-06-2021, 08:23 PM   #111
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Is the 260 AI rendered irrelevant by the PRC?

Huge fan of the 7mm-08 but interested in a little more niche cartridge for reloading.
7mm-08 AI
260 AI
or just go straight 7mm-08 or 6.5 PRC?
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Old 03-07-2021, 02:36 PM   #112
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Is the 260 AI rendered irrelevant by the PRC?

Huge fan of the 7mm-08 but interested in a little more niche cartridge for reloading.
7mm-08 AI
260 AI
or just go straight 7mm-08 or 6.5 PRC?

I would say it depends on your situation. If your already geared for 260 with dies, brass and such go with the AI since those things are so hard to find. If starting from scratch PRC might be the choice.

Personally I really like the thought of a 7-08AI and it will be one of my next builds. Plus you can shoot factory ammo out of it in a pinch with still good performance.


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Old 03-07-2021, 02:36 PM   #113
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Placed my order on Friday.
Went with option 1 in a 260ai 22" barrel.
Love the fact that Lapua brass is currently in stock in most places.
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Old 03-07-2021, 07:28 PM   #114
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18Ē 7mm-08 1:9 Option 1. Would have loved to get option 2 folder, but after handling there was a few things that I knew I would not care for quickly.


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Old 03-07-2021, 08:37 PM   #115
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18Ē 7mm-08 1:9 Option 1. Would have loved to get option 2 folder, but after handling there was a few things that I knew I would not care for quickly.
Such as?

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I would say it depends on your situation. If your already geared for 260 with dies, brass and such go with the AI since those things are so hard to find. If starting from scratch PRC might be the choice.

Personally I really like the thought of a 7-08AI and it will be one of my next builds. Plus you can shoot factory ammo out of it in a pinch with still good performance.


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Interesting... no 260 dies. Iím currently set up for straight 7mm-08, so I could adapt with one additional die pretty easily.
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Old 03-07-2021, 09:24 PM   #116
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18Ē 7mm-08 1:9 Option 1. Would have loved to get option 2 folder, but after handling there was a few things that I knew I would not care for quickly.


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I guess I'm the opposite...
I was all in on this option 2 folder from the gitgo until 2 things happened....

First, the voting thread pretty much killed the possibility in my mind of this getting off the ground, and secondly I built a nice little folding stocked TC Encore in a 7mm 08 with a 20" threaded barrel that isn't nearly in the same class as this one here but it took the edge off of my urge to scratch that itch. So I was content to go with option 1, which in my opinion is likely the sweetest group build rifle yet anyway.

Then, I made the mistake of picking up the sample lightweight Shorty folder in the shop at APR and daaauuummmnnn!!
I liked it so much that I immediately decided that I didn't really need that $3,495
(plus scope & rings)
(plus the option 1 build, with scope & rings)
(plus more ammo etc.etc.etc.)

Sweet azz custom rifle collecting is a helluva drug! 🤣😎
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Old 03-07-2021, 10:30 PM   #117
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Interesting... no 260 dies. Iím currently set up for straight 7mm-08, so I could adapt with one additional die pretty easily.

Iím not certain the bullet seating due would be usable due to the shoulder profile change but worst case scenario would be a set of dies and youíre ready to roll.



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Old 03-07-2021, 10:32 PM   #118
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I guess I'm the opposite...
I was all in on this option 2 folder from the gitgo until 2 things happened....

First, the voting thread pretty much killed the possibility in my mind of this getting off the ground, and secondly I built a nice little folding stocked TC Encore in a 7mm 08 with a 20" threaded barrel that isn't nearly in the same class as this one here but it took the edge off of my urge to scratch that itch. So I was content to go with option 1, which in my opinion is likely the sweetest group build rifle yet anyway.

Then, I made the mistake of picking up the sample lightweight Shorty folder in the shop at APR and daaauuummmnnn!!
I liked it so much that I immediately decided that I didn't really need that $3,495
(plus scope & rings)
(plus the option 1 build, with scope & rings)
(plus more ammo etc.etc.etc.)

Sweet azz custom rifle collecting is a helluva drug! 🤣😎
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Old 03-08-2021, 08:45 AM   #119
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Such as?
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For me the check weld seemed high and likely not work with a low scope, and the takedown pin protruded and rested in the meat between my thumb and pointer. Maybe just how I gripped or my extra large hands but enough for me to pass and go option 1.


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Old 03-08-2021, 11:47 AM   #120
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For me the check weld seemed high and likely not work with a low scope, and the takedown pin protruded and rested in the meat between my thumb and pointer. Maybe just how I gripped or my extra large hands but enough for me to pass and go option 1.


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Old 03-09-2021, 01:29 PM   #121
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Got my order in. 6.5 PRC option 1
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Old 03-10-2021, 04:43 PM   #122
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In under the wire!
Option 1 in 7mm-08
18" 1:9 barrel
Stoked!
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Old 03-11-2021, 09:22 AM   #123
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In under the wire!
Option 1 in 7mm-08
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Stoked!


Very nice. That will be a slick set up.


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Old 03-11-2021, 04:28 PM   #124
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Very nice. That will be a slick set up.


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Iím excited! Iím actually going to gain weight over my current rifle in this slot, but the stoke will make my load lighter.
I currently pack a Kimber Adirondack that is under 5 lbs. w/out the scope. It may be hitting the classifieds.
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Old 03-11-2021, 06:02 PM   #125
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I have brass, bullets, dies, primers and powder ready to go.

So the wait begins.

Good thing I have two other rifles that need a little tuning.

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Old 03-12-2021, 11:01 AM   #126
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How many orders did you get Robert? Sorry if you already mentioned it.
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Old 03-12-2021, 04:55 PM   #127
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Iím excited! Iím actually going to gain weight over my current rifle in this slot, but the stoke will make my load lighter.
I currently pack a Kimber Adirondack that is under 5 lbs. w/out the scope. It may be hitting the classifieds.

You might not want to pick up any other rifle you own after you play with the new one.


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Old 03-18-2021, 01:25 PM   #128
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Thank you again APR for doing this. I ordered the #1 in 6.5 PRC with Kryptek Altitude Reduced Camo. I canít wait to get it out on an Elk hunt.

My question is about ring height. With the Leupold VX-5 HD in 3x15-44, (30mm) can I use Warne Mountain Rings in Low height or do I need Medium? What do you all recommend? Is there really any reason to go to the Leupold VX-6HD, other than the slightly larger range 3x18, vs. 3x15?

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Old 03-18-2021, 07:29 PM   #129
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Thank you again APR for doing this. I ordered the #1 in 6.5 PRC with Kryptek Altitude Reduced Camo. I canít wait to get it out on an Elk hunt.

My question is about ring height. With the Leupold VX-5 HD in 3x15-44, (30mm) can I use Warne Mountain Rings in Low height or do I need Medium? What do you all recommend? Is there really any reason to go to the Leupold VX-6HD, other than the slightly larger range 3x18, vs. 3x15?

Thanks!!

Not sure how the Warne rings are but on last years build the seekins 34mm low rings cleared a vx6-hd 4-24x52. Taking of rail might change that but I always start with lows and pray. As for the 6-hd you also get a locking windage which can be useful if you dope a lot and the aluminum scope caps which are nice. I would look for the clearance ones which brings them to 5-hd prices. I picked up 6-hd 3-18x44 tmoa a few years back for $850


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Thanks BMAC. $850 is a smoking hot deal wow! I appreciate the feedback.
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Old 05-20-2021, 11:25 AM   #131
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Figured I would bump this thread as it has been to quite. Ordered the 280ai Sammi with 25” barrel. Since I don’t reload and ammo has been pretty hard to come by I did manage to grab a 100 rds of 168 Berger vldH from copper creek last month. Said velocity is at 2950. Currently waiting on some accu bonds to become available from them since the green screen swears by them. Scope, I will probably run Swarovski z6 with a custom BT. Big fan of Swarovski scopes and have a couple of the Z5s. Track well and great glass. Back to the ammo, wanted to stay in the 160 range. My APR 6.5 prc with the 140 Berger elites is devasting and I really don’t see any need to go lower than 160 as the prc covers that. Obviously, some applications may require me to go lower. Nonetheless, just wanted to bump the thread and share my thoughts.
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Old 05-20-2021, 12:55 PM   #132
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I hope they start the builds the way we read. From lefty to right!!!!! The wait is getting to me already. haha
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Old 05-20-2021, 06:46 PM   #133
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I'm curious as well. Have rings and glas sitting here waiting "patiently"
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Old 05-20-2021, 08:05 PM   #134
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Just picked mine up yesterday...















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Patiently awaiting the call that mine is ready, since I was order #1 this year!
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Old 05-20-2021, 10:04 PM   #136
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I’m patiently waiting on the special and a 25-06 that my wife is having redone for me as our anniversary gift. We dropped it off in early January and I’m hoping it’s done soon. The wait is killing me!
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2lazy what did you have done to the 25-06. I have a 1980s Remington 700 that I would like tear apart and use the action to build off. I still want to keep it a 25-06 but I would like to give it to my little buddy. Curious what your having done. Thanks
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2lazy what did you have done to the 25-06. I have a 1980s Remington 700 that I would like tear apart and use the action to build off. I still want to keep it a 25-06 but I would like to give it to my little buddy. Curious what your having done. Thanks
Itís a 700 BDL that my wife bought me for our 1st anniversary. Iím also keeping it a 25-06, itís my favorite round for all things Texas. They are putting a new barrel on, trueing the action, trigger tech, bedding the factory bdl stock, and engraving the floor plate for me. I almost went with a McMillan Game Warden stock, but in the end I wanted it to look original, just well upgraded. I plan on hunting with it, so I guess when Iím gone and the kids have it theyíll know it was well used. Iím really excited to get it back and put it to use.
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Old 05-21-2021, 10:28 AM   #140
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That sounds awesome and exactly what I wanted to do. I love my 25-06 and it has killed a ton of animals. Was given to me by my grandfather. We are gonna have to see pics of the finished product. Excited for you.
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Old 05-21-2021, 10:35 AM   #141
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That sounds awesome and exactly what I wanted to do. I love my 25-06 and it has killed a ton of animals. Was given to me by my grandfather. We are gonna have to see pics of the finished product. Excited for you.
Thanks man, Iíll post up some pics when I get it back and dialed in.
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come on McMillan
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My wife gave me a APR for Christmas. I’m having a 7mm in the Maverick build made. Specked it out first of January said it would take 3 to 3.5 months. Knocking on 5’s door right now. Probably having trouble getting parts. Glad I got my order in before the group deal hit. You guys may be waiting way longer then you think.
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Old 05-25-2021, 04:55 PM   #144
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Wife just got the call that mines done. Can’t wait to get my paws on it!!
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Old 05-25-2021, 05:01 PM   #145
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Old 05-26-2021, 06:43 PM   #146
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My wife gave me a APR for Christmas. Iím having a 7mm in the Maverick build made. Specked it out first of January said it would take 3 to 3.5 months. Knocking on 5ís door right now. Probably having trouble getting parts. Glad I got my order in before the group deal hit. You guys may be waiting way longer then you think.

Ordered on 1/21 for a Grad Present.... didn't make it in time. Still waiting
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Old 05-26-2021, 09:47 PM   #147
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Picked mine up today. It looks great. C CD any wait to hit the range. I would post pics but don’t know how.
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Old 05-27-2021, 11:00 AM   #148
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Picked mine up today. It looks great. C CD any wait to hit the range. I would post pics but donít know how.

Send me the gun and I will take pictures for you and let you know how it shoots


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Old 06-03-2021, 09:47 AM   #149
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Just an update for everybody......we received the first batch of actions for the TBH builds this week. I'll post updates as we receive more parts.
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Not going to get excited...going to pretend I never even saw this! Thanks for the update.
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