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Old 09-28-2021, 07:34 PM   #51
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Disregard , I just realized you specifically asked about over and under shotguns.
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Old 09-28-2021, 07:57 PM   #52
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I went through this a few years ago and ended up buying a new Winchester 101 - it was $1100 then. It is a nice gun but is light for and OU and is a hard kicker - I mostly shoot clays and after 50 rounds it is noticeable.

In hindsight I should have spent more and got a base model Citori or looked harder for a used one.
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Old 09-28-2021, 07:57 PM   #53
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I’ve owned a couple or three Brownings, a dozen or more Berettas, and a couple Fabarms. I still have two Berettas and two Fabarms. You can’t go wrong with any of the three.
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Old 09-28-2021, 08:06 PM   #54
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I don’t have a problem with my yildiz. It’s light and has a bit more recoil but I normally shoot hi-brass #6 and don’t feel to beat up.

This is my only experience with over and under shotguns I’d buy another.
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Old 09-28-2021, 08:07 PM   #55
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I guess I am “recoil sensitive!”

…and get in a hurry and hold shotgun a little low to the arm when a big group comes thru.

Shot fine. Kicks like mule.




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Old 09-28-2021, 08:10 PM   #56
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A CLEAN USED gun is the way to go for what you want.

If you have an outfit that handles a lot of used guns, I would go fondle some Browning Citori's & Ruger red labels, along with any other's they have in that price window...like stated, the key is to find what fits you & that will take a lot of the kick out.

I'm a big beretta fan, but the 686 / 687 family field guns knock the snot out of 'me'...their sporting guns rock, but not in your budget.

Just consider the model & price window (even if a little high @ retail)...once you find something that's gonna work, then shop & compare pricing of the same rigs. Don't be fooled, a $900 gun online could be asking $1200 on the shelf. Look, fondle, then buy.

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Old 09-28-2021, 08:15 PM   #57
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OP, you mentioned you had another Browning and in your original post said you didn’t want a gun that kicked too hard. Do NOT expect any solid frame gun like an o/u to have recoil like your semiauto. Until you get used to it, they’re all gonna kick like a mule compared to that semiauto.
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Old 09-29-2021, 07:18 AM   #58
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OP, you mentioned you had another Browning and in your original post said you didn’t want a gun that kicked too hard. Do NOT expect any solid frame gun like an o/u to have recoil like your semiauto. Until you get used to it, they’re all gonna kick like a mule compared to that semiauto.

Ok. Besides putting a recoil pad on it is there any other remedies to help on the recoil?


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Old 09-29-2021, 07:33 AM   #59
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:10 AM   #60
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Ok. Besides putting a recoil pad on it is there any other remedies to help on the recoil?


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If the intended use is for dove / quail, then simply use lighter oz target loads with a FPS of 1200 & under...you don't need the big box store push of those loads that are max dram behind max amounts of lead.
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:13 AM   #61
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SKB or Ithaca makes an adorable quality gun that can be found used well under $1k


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Old 09-29-2021, 09:50 AM   #62
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I'm more than happy with Franchi (made by Beretta I believe).
Was sub $1k back when I bought it, may not be now.
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:54 AM   #63
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If the intended use is for dove / quail, then simply use lighter oz target loads with a FPS of 1200 & under...you don't need the big box store push of those loads that are max dram behind max amounts of lead.
^This.

Recoil from a double barrel isn't bad if a gun fits you well and you're not shooting 3" heavy loads. They NEVER jam. You can use 2 different chokes at a time, one for close shots and one for longer shots. And they're just cooler than pumps and semis.
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Old 09-30-2021, 11:39 AM   #64
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I really can't believe all these grown "men" complaining about recoil of a 12 gauge shotgun!!
The best way to reduce recoil if you really want to is to learn to shoot and drop down in gauge... That's what I did... I use a .410 for upland birds and a 20 gauge for ducks... Ain't hunted geese in a while...


If you're really concerned with how bad the gun's gonna kick, get you a gas operated semi-auto so you won't hurt your poor little shoulder...
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Old 10-01-2021, 10:22 PM   #65
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I guess I am “recoil sensitive!”

…and get in a hurry and hold shotgun a little low to the arm when a big group comes thru.

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You win the “Stubborn as a Mule Bruise” Award!!!
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Old 10-02-2021, 09:44 AM   #66
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I guess I am “recoil sensitive!”

…and get in a hurry and hold shotgun a little low to the arm when a big group comes thru.

Shot fine. Kicks like mule.




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Must be a yildez


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Old 10-02-2021, 10:18 AM   #67
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Anybody that recoil sensitive they can't shoot a 100 rounds from stack barrel should probably just quit and start wearing Daisey Dukes.
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:10 AM   #68
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Ruger red label would be another O/U to look for that’s regarded as quality and typically sub $1,000.

A lot of upland guns are designed to be carried all day and shot a handful of times on pheasant, chukar, grouse, etc. A light weight fixed breach gun is going to kick more than an 8 1/2 lb semi auto, it doesn’t make it “junk” because it kicks.

One of the reasons guys say to avoid the Yildiz, etc is that they will randomly change or discontinue them and you can’t get parts any more. Then you’ve got a paperweight over a broken barrel selector or firing pin. Happened to me with my 28 gauge Weatherby. Great gun, just glad nothing’s broken yet.

Also, break action guns wear over time, and if they aren’t built correctly they can develop slop and not lock up securely, basically garbage at that point.

I still don’t own an O/U or SXS, every time I get close to buying something I tell myself to just wait snd get a Beretta. Hasn’t happened yet with spending so much on “bannable things” the last couple years.

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Old 10-10-2021, 08:09 AM   #69
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Ruger red label is a good o/u shotgun but I wouldn’t call it a sub $1000 gun, they often go for much more considering their discontinued and have a small fan base similar to sendero rifles. The last couple used ones I saw were around $1500 for the base model used. The engraved red labels are $2k-$3k
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Old 10-10-2021, 08:34 AM   #70
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A well loved older browning citori would work well for your purpose and budget.

See them often under 1k.
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Old 10-10-2021, 09:12 AM   #71
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Beretta made a model called the Whitewing. We paid $1000.00 for it back in the day. Dang fine over and under for the money, but good luck finding one.
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Old 10-10-2021, 09:13 AM   #72
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Ever been on blood thinners?
I’m glad you said that. I was going to suggest you get checked out by a Dr for that kind of bruising from the aforementioned type of impact.
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Old 10-10-2021, 09:26 AM   #73
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One on Gunbroker right now.
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Old 10-10-2021, 09:58 AM   #74
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I really wanted beretta onyx, but got a franchi instinct instead as it was less money but still made by beretta. Love it so far, I got it in 20 gauge and i am very happy with it.
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Old 10-10-2021, 10:02 AM   #75
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Wow, a little low ? That’s way low. And it looks pretty painful, did you learn your lesson or will have to wait until next time you shoot it, to see ?
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Old 10-10-2021, 10:51 AM   #76
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Beretta or Browning
He said middle of the road. LOL

If youre able to spend Browning and Beretta Money. I would highly recommend you looking at Rizzinni

Nothing wrong with Beretta or Browning but there are similar if not better quality for less money.

Also I have had a Franchi 20 O/U for ~15 years now. It has been rode hard and put up wet. I think the sticker on it back then was $800 or $900. I got a deal on it and Paid $450. It has been a great gun. I put some briley chokes in it and have never looked back.
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Old 10-10-2021, 12:06 PM   #77
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Is stoeger a good brand?


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Old 10-10-2021, 05:06 PM   #78
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You need to handle some guns. See what fits you. A cheap gun that doesn’t fit ain’t worth nothing. Seriously, shoulder as many as you can.
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Old 10-10-2021, 05:18 PM   #79
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The new remake of the Winchester 101 is a lot of gun for the money. The action is proven and the fit is good for most people. I shot a 101 most of my life and recently shot one of the new remakes and was very impressed. You should be able to find one for what you are looking.
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Old 10-10-2021, 06:05 PM   #80
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Is stoeger a good brand?
They are one of the cheapest guns you can get, the looks, feel and quality reflect that. I'm sure some have them and work fine. Their 2 trigger doubles are fairly problem free, the single triggers not so much per many reviews. I wouldn't roll the dice on one personally.
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:58 PM   #81
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ou need to handle some guns. See what fits you. A cheap gun that doesn’t fit ain’t worth nothing. Seriously, shoulder as many as you can.
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Old 10-12-2021, 07:58 AM   #82
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Anybody that recoil sensitive they can't shoot a 100 rounds from stack barrel should probably just quit and start wearing Daisey Dukes.


OP, I failed to remember about ATA shotguns. I looked at them hard at NCSA nationals. Coles deals in them and said parts from beretta are the same.
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:18 AM   #83
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I've got a few super nice hand me down guns that I never shoot. My yilidz sees the most time in the field honestly. I have a limb-saver recoil pad and shoots great for me.
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:40 AM   #84
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Get a Franchi Instinct, they are made in Italy and owned by Beretta & Benelli. i shoot with a 20 ga. but if its going to be your main gun, i would get a 12 ga. right now it should run you about 1500, which is about 500 to 1000 cheaper than a Beretta or Browning.
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:42 AM   #85
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Chalk up another for Franchi Instinct. Love mine in 12 GA. Don’t pay attention to the kick so it must not be much. Nice pad on it already but after 10 years that is starting to crumble. Need to replace soon. Shoot everything with it. Lighter than a lot of O/U I’ve shot but didn’t get the SL because concerned it would kick more due to reduced weight.
Color case hardening makes it look more expensive than it is. Was $800 when I bought it but would by again at $1000-$1200.
Fits me perfect. I am 5’10” 175 with 33 inch sleeves if that helps with fit.
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Old 10-13-2021, 04:03 PM   #86
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A guy at work just bought a Stoeger Condor Competition for a recent dove hunt. Chose it because it was heavier and 30 inch barrels. Its only been 2 weeks and I only shot it a dozen times, but it shouldered and pointed well for me. He shot about a case of shells through it the weekend, birds and skeet, and no issues. Still early though.
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Old 10-13-2021, 04:15 PM   #87
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i have different shotguns for different applications. My O/U are for clay sports, dove and upland hunting. My semiautos are for ducks and geese (steel shot), turkey (turkey loads), hogs and deer (using slugs). I will also use a pump for turkey and deer as they are lighter than semiautos to carry in the field. The heavier loads go typically in the semiautos as the felt recoil is less.

Look for used Browning, Beretta, SKB or Franchi O/U.
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Old 10-13-2021, 04:36 PM   #88
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Lol!!

CZ makes a decent sub $1k gun. Otherwise keep your eye on the classifieds.
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Old 10-13-2021, 05:46 PM   #89
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I guess I am “recoil sensitive!”

…and get in a hurry and hold shotgun a little low to the arm when a big group comes thru.

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That looks like 12 year old me after a limit of ducks i killed with my 870 express that i got for Christmas that was too big for me.

I probably had a lot bigger smile on my face though.
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Get a Franchi Instinct, they are made in Italy and owned by Beretta & Benelli. i shoot with a 20 ga. but if its going to be your main gun, i would get a 12 ga. right now it should run you about 1500, which is about 500 to 1000 cheaper than a Beretta or Browning.
I second this. I have a 20 and love it.
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