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Old 04-25-2017, 09:11 PM   #1
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Ok, so there is a lot of bashing of one brand or another, but it seems BowTech gets the brunt of it. So, without starting a "S" storm, and without just bashing because you can, let me ask a few questions, some may be stupid, some may be a no brainer, some you may say I do this with X brand and have never had a problem. This is not what I am asking. I would just like to know the facts prior to the failure. Ok so here we go.

1. Did you leave the bow, in or out of the case in a car or truck during the summer months for an extended period of time?

2. Was said bow left in the garage during the same conditions ( in or out of the case ?)

3. Did you leave said bow in or out of the case while at the lease or in the back yard, archery range or where ever in the direct sun light?

4. Were the limb bolts all the way down tight against the riser?

5. Was your arrow weight to draw weight ratio the recommended 5 grains of arrow weight to 1 pound of draw weight?

6. Has your bow to your knowledge ever been dry fired?

7. If you think back to before the event, were there any signs of failure? ( i.e. such as started shooting off of making strange noise? )

8. If you did have a failure, did BowTech take care of you and repair the problem? If not why?

9. What do you think contributed to the failure?

Again not trying to defend or start a " S " storm, just trying to find out what the main issue may be. So haters go ahead, I know you are going to, all others , please feel free to post up valid comments.
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:15 PM   #2
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Why should any of that matter a carbon hoyt will take 10k dry fires at 80#s.
Why can't any new bow take 140
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:16 PM   #3
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Excellent thread and I am looking forward to the response it gets. I myself have shot bowtech for many years and never had a problem. Still shoot a bowtech destroyer and probably my favorite bow.
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:29 PM   #4
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I was just bout to start a thread like this. Have an itch to buy a bowtech

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Old 04-25-2017, 09:31 PM   #5
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I shoot a bowtech as well. I love mine.


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Old 04-25-2017, 09:35 PM   #6
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I've heard just as much good about Bowtech, as I've heard about Bear. Bowtech manufactures bows for other brands, too. People might unwittingly be using one, while talking smack about it lol!

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Old 04-25-2017, 09:35 PM   #7
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I have shot BowTech exclusively since 2001, zero failures. I've seen them, but never had one. Have seen more improperly set up (strings and cables run completely wrong) on bowtechs that all others combined.

They had limb issues, but they warranted them. I have had nothing but positive from them and like the performance I get from them
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:37 PM   #8
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Still shooting a bowtech destroyer 350 and have no urge to even try any new bow! Never a problem and shoots great so no reason to change.


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Old 04-25-2017, 09:42 PM   #9
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My dad and I have been shooting Bowtech since the "vft" days and have had zero problems.
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:45 PM   #10
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Mathews is #1 for a reason.
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:55 PM   #11
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Mathews is #1 for a reason.
Yep. Millions spent on advertising.

I've had my Bowtech Insanity CPXL for 5 or 6 years now, I can't remember.
Now mechanical issues whatsoever, and I shoot a lot, but I shoot probably the heaviest carbon arrow made..
A big majority of limb failures, with any brand, is shooting to lite of an arrow/point combo to many times IMO.
They can only take so much abuse..
In 37 years of shooting different makes and models I've never had a mechanical issue but I've always shot heavy.
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:59 PM   #12
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They make some fast shooters for sure. My hunt buddy takes two bowtechs every trip. I've shot them both and they shot great. He swears by them and kills LOTS of critters.

BUT,.... he takes two bows every trip. He's had to use the backup twice on hunts I was on. I can't get past that part.
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:14 PM   #13
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Bowtech experience here and no problems, been shooting it since 2013.
I left my bow in the truck the other day too.

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Old 04-25-2017, 10:26 PM   #14
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I have a bowtech experience I have left everywhere your not supposed to. Shot the pizz out of with no issues. I think all brands have had some issue here or there at some point. I am satisfied with this bowtech and have owned about all the major brands at some point.
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:57 PM   #15
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Ok, so there is a lot of bashing of one brand or another, but it seems BowTech gets the brunt of it. So, without starting a "S" storm, and without just bashing because you can, let me ask a few questions, some may be stupid, some may be a no brainer, some you may say I do this with X brand and have never had a problem. This is not what I am asking. I would just like to know the facts prior to the failure. Ok so here we go.

1. Did you leave the bow, in or out of the case in a car or truck during the summer months for an extended period of time?

2. Was said bow left in the garage during the same conditions ( in or out of the case ?)

3. Did you leave said bow in or out of the case while at the lease or in the back yard, archery range or where ever in the direct sun light?

4. Were the limb bolts all the way down tight against the riser?

5. Was your arrow weight to draw weight ratio the recommended 5 grains of arrow weight to 1 pound of draw weight?

6. Has your bow to your knowledge ever been dry fired?

7. If you think back to before the event, were there any signs of failure? ( i.e. such as started shooting off of making strange noise? )

8. If you did have a failure, did BowTech take care of you and repair the problem? If not why?

9. What do you think contributed to the failure?

Again not trying to defend or start a " S " storm, just trying to find out what the main issue may be. So haters go ahead, I know you are going to, all others , please feel free to post up valid comments.
if you were not defending or not trying to start something why did every single question look like it was aimed at the owner doing something wrong?
bowtech has more problems that all other makes combined currently,,
the issue is very simple, quality control, I have seen several that were broken, at 60# and 400+ grain arrows with short draws,, no dry fires and proper care.... failure of most over the last several years have been mostly quality control related, and a partial issue with quality causing plenty of derailments was ultra shallow cam groves that the string could not track in ( a few on shots and a lot on let downs that were torqued,( these usually did nothing other than damaged the strings)
and junk limbs are a quality issue....
and I do not hate on bowtech bows,, there are several models I have liked and a couple I have owned
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Mathews is #1 for a reason.
provide some numbers to prove they are #1,,, I doubt that you can, and I certainly would not rate them #1, and yes they make a good bow, but so do most manufacturers
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provide some numbers to prove they are #1,,, I doubt that you can, and I certainly would not rate them #1, and yes they make a good bow, but so do most manufacturers
I agree with this 100%. I have owned one Bowtech. It was fast, accurate and comfortable in my hand. The draw cycle just wasn't for me. I have owned 4 Mathews bows and two Hoyts. I still have the two Hoyts and I love them. I would take them and the Bowtech over any of the Mathews I've owned. Marketing and an unknowing following says Mathews is #1. I am NOT saying all Mathews owners are unknowing and ignorant.

Simply put, I believe Mathews bows are the fall-back bows for those that do not know squat about bowhunting. Their marvelous marketing makes it easy know the brand. Real bowhunters know, Mathews makes a good bow as well as Hoyt, Bear, Prime, Elite, Bowtech, etc. It's a matter of personal preference. Much like Remington or Savage.

Yesterday, I had a customer tell me he has heard a lot of his clients request a product that competes with the one I provide. My product is handmade, custom built to fit and bar-none the best product ever created for its purpose. The product he queried is mediocre at best. I told him bluntly, "You experience demand for it because it's easy to find on the web. Homeowners do a search and it's the first thing that pops up. First rate marketing doesn't make it a quality product."

Just the way I see it.
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Old 04-26-2017, 04:46 AM   #18
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Oh good, my popcorn is ready.
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Old 04-26-2017, 05:29 AM   #19
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An owner of bowtech and have never experienced any issues other than its loud. Insanity cpxl that's been restrung twice probably killed over 300 hogs/javi's combined and 5 of my biggest whitetail and numerous axis. No doubt it's seen sunlight and the back of a ranger with no case and still will put the smack on anything when I'm ready. So I guess I'm a fan boy even though I now have a Matthews halon 32. Everything has flaws and no one will ever admit misuse or abuse in the event of a failure. No limb delamination here


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Old 04-26-2017, 06:07 AM   #20
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Livin'2hunt seeing how that's the way you see it I imagine a good Ophthalmologist could probably help you out.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:19 AM   #21
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Had a 70 lbs. Invasion that for me personally was one of the best shooting bows I've owned. I was confident with it and shot it well. Week before season in 2013 the bottom limb delaminated on the draw. Rather than wait for a warranty repair since the season started that coming weekend I traded it in for a new Assassin. The Invasion was always kept in the house during the offseason and out of the heat to the best of my ability.
I now shoot a Mathews Halon and don't plan on changing anything anytime soon.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:23 AM   #22
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I have a 2011 assassin. Have had no issues with it, Love the speed and feel of it
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:18 AM   #23
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if you were not defending or not trying to start something why did every single question look like it was aimed at the owner doing something wrong?
bowtech has more problems that all other makes combined currently,,
the issue is very simple, quality control, I have seen several that were broken, at 60# and 400+ grain arrows with short draws,, no dry fires and proper care.... failure of most over the last several years have been mostly quality control related, and a partial issue with quality causing plenty of derailments was ultra shallow cam groves that the string could not track in ( a few on shots and a lot on let downs that were torqued,( these usually did nothing other than damaged the strings)
and junk limbs are a quality issue....
and I do not hate on bowtech bows,, there are several models I have liked and a couple I have owned
Well, not every question is aimed at the owner, and I was giving examples of most of the culprits to failure that most will not admit to. With that being said, you provided some of the exact feed back I was looking for about the cams and quality control issues causing a lot of the problems. There are a lot of people who would not have noticed the shallow cam groves unless it was really obvious, I am one of them.
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Old 04-26-2017, 07:28 AM   #24
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if you were not defending or not trying to start something why did every single question look like it was aimed at the owner doing something wrong?
bowtech has more problems that all other makes combined currently,,
the issue is very simple, quality control, I have seen several that were broken, at 60# and 400+ grain arrows with short draws,, no dry fires and proper care.... failure of most over the last several years have been mostly quality control related, and a partial issue with quality causing plenty of derailments was ultra shallow cam groves that the string could not track in ( a few on shots and a lot on let downs that were torqued,( these usually did nothing other than damaged the strings)
and junk limbs are a quality issue....
and I do not hate on bowtech bows,, there are several models I have liked and a couple I have owned

It's not s quality control issue. It's an engineering issue.
Try breaking a 1x1 with just your hands.Then try breaking it over Your knee.
The problem is that ridiculous brace they placed in the center Of the limb.

Have you ever seen a post about a bowtech without the brace having a limb issue?
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It's not s quality control issue. It's an engineering issue.
Try breaking a 1x1 with just your hands.Then try breaking it over Your knee.
The problem is that ridiculous brace they placed in the center Of the limb.

Have you ever seen a post about a bowtech without the brace having a limb issue?
Saw waayyy ore pre center pivot. I personally wouldn't shoot one without center pivot, it makes a huge difference in the way a bow shoots.

And for the record I've seen as many "other" brand limb failures as well.
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Livin'2hunt seeing how that's the way you see it I imagine a good Ophthalmologist could probably help you out.

Of course. As we all know, your opinion is the only one that matters. Some people cannot be reasoned with.
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My sons buddy works at a shop and could get good deals on bow tech. So he had an admiral ( if I remember the name) that they had just got in. We went to look at it, shoot it. He took it out of the box and drew it back and the top limb broke. That was as far as it got, he said he had had a few brake at that time. And was going to try a differant one, but we said no thanks. Ended up buying a Mathews at that time. And still he has some issues with ( bow techs) limbs.
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Saw waayyy ore pre center pivot. I personally wouldn't shoot one without center pivot, it makes a huge difference in the way a bow shoots.

And for the record I've seen as many "other" brand limb failures as well.
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]Saw waayyy more center pivot. I personally wouldn't shoot one with center pivot, it makes a huge difference in the way a bow blows up

And for the record I've seen as many "other" brand limb failures as well.[/QUOTE]
Lol

Have you ever seen an assassin blow up.
How about a specialist
Or a d340/ 350
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Fify

]Saw waayyy more center pivot. I personally wouldn't shoot one with center pivot, it makes a huge difference in the way a bow blows up

And for the record I've seen as many "other" brand limb failures as well.
Lol

Have you ever seen an assassin blow up.
How about a specialist
Or a d340/ 350[/QUOTE]

2 assasines
Only know if one person shooting a specialist and it was 50#
90% of limb problems I saw were d350... only know if one person shooting a d340 just wasn't as popular in my area
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2006 Tribute, I still shoot her. This is when Kevin said that they were having such bad limb failures during in-house testing; kind of the beginning of the end for him at Bowtech.

1. Did you leave the bow, in or out of the case in a car or truck during the summer months for an extended period of time?
Never.

2. Was said bow left in the garage during the same conditions ( in or out of the case ?)
Never.

3. Did you leave said bow in or out of the case while at the lease or in the back yard, archery range or where ever in the direct sun light?
Never.

4. Were the limb bolts all the way down tight against the riser?
Yes.

5. Was your arrow weight to draw weight ratio the recommended 5 grains of arrow weight to 1 pound of draw weight?
Yes, just a bit over.

6. Has your bow to your knowledge ever been dry fired?
Never.

7. If you think back to before the event, were there any signs of failure? ( i.e. such as started shooting off of making strange noise? )
Not until it failed; it failed on the draw not the shot.

8. If you did have a failure, did BowTech take care of you and repair the problem? If not why?
Yes, new limbs installed by the dealer (Archery Country) in a few days no charge.

9. What do you think contributed to the failure?
Limb was defective.

I have not had a single problem with the limbs, or any thing else, on this bow since this happened. In fact, I love it so much I still shoot it.

You can read all about it here.
http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=364788
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I don't mistreat my equipment but I don't baby it either. I have cracked limbs 5 or 6 times on various model Bowtechs. Most of them were set at 80+ with my latest being at 70.
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2006 Tribute, I still shoot her. This is when Kevin said that they were having such bad limb failures during in-house testing; kind of the beginning of the end for him at Bowtech.

1. Did you leave the bow, in or out of the case in a car or truck during the summer months for an extended period of time?
Never.

2. Was said bow left in the garage during the same conditions ( in or out of the case ?)
Never.

3. Did you leave said bow in or out of the case while at the lease or in the back yard, archery range or where ever in the direct sun light?
Never.

4. Were the limb bolts all the way down tight against the riser?
Yes.

5. Was your arrow weight to draw weight ratio the recommended 5 grains of arrow weight to 1 pound of draw weight?
Yes, just a bit over.

6. Has your bow to your knowledge ever been dry fired?
Never.

7. If you think back to before the event, were there any signs of failure? ( i.e. such as started shooting off of making strange noise? )
Not until it failed; it failed on the draw not the shot.

8. If you did have a failure, did BowTech take care of you and repair the problem? If not why?
Yes, new limbs installed by the dealer (Archery Country) in a few days no charge.

9. What do you think contributed to the failure?
Limb was defective.

I have not had a single problem with the limbs, or any thing else, on this bow since this happened. In fact, I love it so much I still shoot it.

You can read all about it here.
http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=364788
Don't know about the Tribute, but for the newer bows BowTech recommends not to tighten the limbs all the way down. They say back off a 1/4 turn. Do know why, just what is recommended.
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I have been shooting a Diamond (Bowtech) Iceman for eight years without an issue.
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Old 04-26-2017, 09:08 AM   #34
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Just bought the Bowtech Reign 7. I love it. Fast and quiet.
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Old 04-26-2017, 09:16 AM   #35
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Livin'2hunt your opinion was pretty harsh(Simply put, I believe Mathews bows are the fall-back bows for those that do not know squat about bowhunting.).
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I love me a good "blame the manufacturer defects on the owner because my product has not had an issue" thread ...
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Old 04-26-2017, 09:34 AM   #37
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I had a lot of problems with the bowtech I had (guardian) Long story ,short. After sending it in 4 times for the finish/paint to be fixed only to be sent back not fixed or southern engineered fixed. All the while missing out on a javi hunt and a turkey hunt! Then when the bow shop put it on a press, as they backed it off the limbs were all split and splintered. My bow shop then took care of me having bowtech replace the bow with a new one. (It was only 6 months old and never abused or neglected.)
In the end I guess you could say bowtech made things right, but man what a hassle.

My bow shop owner then told me I could pick any bow and he would just sell the replacement. I have been shooting a Hoyt ever since. My brother likes bowtech, but has had a few problems with limbs. I know a few more that have had issues with limbs.

My oldest daughter is a Mathews shooter. My youngest daughter shoots a bowtech Eva Shocky. I tried to talk her out of it but she was dead set on that bow.

Myself, I am not a brand guy, I will shoot what I like, but I will not be buying another bowtech.
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Ok, so there is a lot of bashing of one brand or another, but it seems BowTech gets the brunt of it. So, without starting a "S" storm, and without just bashing because you can, let me ask a few questions, some may be stupid, some may be a no brainer, some you may say I do this with X brand and have never had a problem. This is not what I am asking. I would just like to know the facts prior to the failure. Ok so here we go.



1. Did you leave the bow, in or out of the case in a car or truck during the summer months for an extended period of time?



2. Was said bow left in the garage during the same conditions ( in or out of the case ?)



3. Did you leave said bow in or out of the case while at the lease or in the back yard, archery range or where ever in the direct sun light?



4. Were the limb bolts all the way down tight against the riser?



5. Was your arrow weight to draw weight ratio the recommended 5 grains of arrow weight to 1 pound of draw weight?



6. Has your bow to your knowledge ever been dry fired?



7. If you think back to before the event, were there any signs of failure? ( i.e. such as started shooting off of making strange noise? )



8. If you did have a failure, did BowTech take care of you and repair the problem? If not why?



9. What do you think contributed to the failure?



Again not trying to defend or start a " S " storm, just trying to find out what the main issue may be. So haters go ahead, I know you are going to, all others , please feel free to post up valid comments.


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A limb pocket issue was corrected at on target with no issues and none since. Been 5 years ago

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Old 04-26-2017, 09:45 AM   #39
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Livin'2hunt your opinion was pretty harsh(Simply put, I believe Mathews bows are the fall-back bows for those that do not know squat about bowhunting.).
I think you misunderstood. I'm am absolutely not saying that about all Mathews owners. What I am saying is, because of the marketing push, some folks that like the idea of bowhunting rather than the actual practice of it find that Mathews is a "safe purchase". It is. It is a good, goose poop smooth bow that is quiet and usually accurate. I know quite a few people like I am describing. They can't tell you what arrow they shoot, the broadhead on those arrows or the furniture on the bow. To them, it is a status symbol rather than a tool as you or I use them. Heck, one of my friends is one. He owns his own ranch and in the subsequent 10 years, I think he has shot one deer. But, by God, he buys a new Mathews every year because he can. That's fine.

Usually, that person hunts very little and practices even less but they can be heard bragging about owning a Mathews at every turn. "That guy" is whom I describe. Mathews gets more of them than any other brand due to marketing. That doesn't mean Mathews is a bad bow because it dam*ed sure isn't. It's a great bow, as are many of the other brands though, not all.

It's a matter of preference. I don't care for Dodge trucks but lots of people do. It's their prerogative. I owned a Bowtech and had no issues with it. I sold it to a friend and he still shoots it today and loves everything about it.

My hang-up on Mathews is durability. I have seen two Mathews and a PSE dry fired (not by me) and all blew up like pipe bombs. I saw a Hoyt get dry fired inside an archery shop and it loosed the string leach and that was it. Don't know how a Bowtech would hold up but that's what I have witnessed.
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1. Did you leave the bow, in or out of the case in a car or truck during the summer months for an extended period of time? NO

2. Was said bow left in the garage during the same conditions ( in or out of the case ?)
NO
3. Did you leave said bow in or out of the case while at the lease or in the back yard, archery range or where ever in the direct sun light? NO

4. Were the limb bolts all the way down tight against the riser? YES

5. Was your arrow weight to draw weight ratio the recommended 5 grains of arrow weight to 1 pound of draw weight? MORE

6. Has your bow to your knowledge ever been dry fired? NO

7. If you think back to before the event, were there any signs of failure? ( i.e. such as started shooting off of making strange noise? ) NO on paint issue. it just started coming off right away. As far as the limbs it shot surprisingly well.

8. If you did have a failure, did BowTech take care of you and repair the problem? If not why? They finally replaced it (thanks to the work of On Target Archery) after months of denial while I missed out on hunting trips.

9. What do you think contributed to the failure? Honestly. Inferior product / company.
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Old 04-26-2017, 10:03 AM   #41
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I have two buddies that would defend their bowtech if it jumped out of the case and burned their house down. One other that was a Hoyt man, bought a bowtech and was happy with it until he had a limb issue on a Colorado elk hunt.
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Old 04-26-2017, 10:14 AM   #42
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My wife and I both have shot Bowtech exclusively for 20+ years.
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Old 04-26-2017, 11:11 AM   #43
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I have been shooting Bowtechs since 1999 their first year of production. I have NEVER had a failure. Have seen several that were pressed wrong and broke the limbs in the press. Every company has had issues in the past. I am proud to be on Bowtech's national staff for the past nine years. Prior to Bowtech I was shooting Oregon bows which was owned by the same gentleman that started Bowtech. There is haters in everything whether it is Ford vs Chevy or whatever. They still a great company.
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Old 04-26-2017, 11:39 AM   #44
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Ok, so I see a lot of people have had issues, do you have any idea what caused them? Only a couple have stated what they found or what they think it may have been.
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:26 AM   #45
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Ok, so I see a lot of people have had issues, do you have any idea what caused them? Only a couple have stated what they found or what they think it may have been.
I have no idea what caused the finish to come off, other than poor application?
By the end of the first month of ownership most of the grip area was white. What hacked me off was they told me to send it in so I did. Then they sent it back untouched. ( they said they did not know why it was sent in they had an rma#)
The second time I sent it in, they sent it back untouched, (they said the finish was not covered under warranty!!! WTH!)
That's when my shop owner called them and chewed them a bit.
The third time I sent it in ( they sent it back literally touched up with some green paint and a paint brush!!!) I was hot at this point and had already missed out on a javi hunt because they had my bow and were doing nothing to resolve the issue!
At this point I figured I just got screwed with this bow and just use it and not miss out on any other hunts.

Shortly later I had the shop install some string silencers and when they put it on the press and let it out, and the limbs were all split, shredded, and splintered. My jaw hit the floor, It would have probably blown up in the next few shots.
The shop owner called bowtech to go through all the issues I had gone through. So they wanted me to send it back in again!
A couple weeks later, bowtech called me to tell me they had replaced the limbs but they could not do anything about the finish, (I now had also missed out on a turkey hunt I had planed with my buddy's!)
I then told him how disgusted I was with the whole ordeal and if I still had my old PSE I would not be in this situation. He then asked if I would be good with a new bow and I said yes. That is when I worked out the deal with the shop owner to trade the new bowtech for a Hoyt. I have been happy ever since and hope no one else has to go through that crap with a new bow.
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Old 04-27-2017, 10:18 AM   #46
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I had been a Trad guy for 30 years... Long story short, I got me a wheelie bow so I could be a slacker on just practicing... Had actually shot custom Viking wheelie bows in my past too... Got a Switchback, and it was a very good bow... Upgraded to a Drenalin LD a few years later. Sold the switchback, and it is still in service. I still had my Drenalin, but wanted to try the BowTech Destroyer 350 because they were capable of a longer draw length. I had a 2" "D" loop on my switchback and a 1" loop on my LD. Within the first season of using that Destroyer, it literally "came unmanufactured" right in my hands upon release (using a Carter Chocolate Lite 4 finger). First time it happened, new limbs, cams/strings, etc. Second time it happened same thing except no new cams... Third failure was after a hunt. I had shot a doe, and killed her, but hit her way low... bow made a funny racket... carrying it back to the truck after the hunt, with a Primos bow strap covering the cams/strings, I hear a loud "POP", and something slapped my leg... Heck, I jumped about 3 feet straight up. thought I'd been snake bit (was out west). After my heart slowed a bit, I took off the Primos strap, and the string/cables had snapped... That was enough. I loved how the bow shot, when it didn't blow up, but I had come to the point of zero confidence in it. Went to the Bow Zone and bought me a Z9... still shooting it today with no problems just as I had had no problems with any of the other Mathews bows I've owned...

What I think caused my issues is the inherent design flaw for these BowTech bows having such a shallow cam groove... the string I think would roll out of the cam slot on release. In my third failure, I think it was because it partially derailed when I shot that doe, but the string did not fail right away....
To also supply more data, my arras are full length Axis N-Fused 300's with a 125 grain head, either field tip, Snuffer or Razor Trick... total weight is over 450 grains... over 500 with the snuffers, which is what I was shooting the first time it blew up.. Was a 70# bow but had it backed off to about 62#... set up by Richard or Joey at The Bow Zone...

Yea, Mathews may be good at marketing, but they're dang good at manufacturing a quality bow too, otherwise failures of their equipment would not let them continue to be the leader they are... Marketing will not make up for poor quality and bad customer service. I'm not a Mathews fan boy. I've tried 'em all. That's why I got that Destroyer... I wanted to try something different.

That Destroyer was one of the sweetest shooting, light, quiet bows I've ever shot, but my experience has pretty much sealed the deal for me to never own another BowTech product again.
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Still regret the day I sold my tribute. Haven't shot a lot of the new bows but am currently shooting a creed and still think the tribute was better. I bought the tribute in 06 and sold it in 2014. Never had an issue one even after a friend dry fired it. It was left in my bow stand during the day after morning hunts, rode un cased in the back of my ranger, and shot thousands of times.
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Old 04-27-2017, 01:20 PM   #48
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Thanks guys, exactly the kind of thing I am looking for.
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Old 04-27-2017, 01:46 PM   #49
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Old 04-27-2017, 01:59 PM   #50
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Livin'2hunt your opinion was pretty harsh(Simply put, I believe Mathews bows are the fall-back bows for those that do not know squat about bowhunting.).
That's why I bought my first one.I thought hell,If I don't like it;least I can sell it..Dry fired it one day,and it flew apart..Got it fixed,shot like new again..I always liked how the Bowtech's are really solid when drawn..My Mathew's always felt kinda "mushy" at the wall,if that makes sense.

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