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Old 10-10-2009, 10:13 AM   #401
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appreciate the shared experiences... good stuff

I repeat (before tangent reader guy chimes in) we all appreciate the job our LEO's do.

Simmer time with a lil' college game day...

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Old 10-10-2009, 11:42 AM   #402
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If we drive fast, we can all still make it in time for lunch
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Old 10-10-2009, 12:07 PM   #403
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Where does the fine money end up? Does the county or state get the money? As bad as the TPWD needs money maybe the game wardens have to pay thier own salary!

I know most of the draw hunts are held to fund the sites, they are supposed to be self supporting.

Maybe just maybe things got changed for the wardens also!
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Old 10-10-2009, 12:09 PM   #404
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Man, that looks tasty Legdog!
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If we drive fast, we can all still make it in time for lunch
You wouldn't condone speeding to get there, now would you?

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If we drive fast, we can all still make it in time for lunch


brown noser...
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Aggies take the lead as the tortillas hit the warmer.

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Old 10-10-2009, 01:41 PM   #409
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Steven, I'm not laughing at your story anymore.

This really has me split too, It is just hard for me to believe the story played out like it did. When you were telling me the story, I was shocked that it ended with you getting 2 tickets...

I hate for Law Enforcement Officers to get a bad wrap, but this was pretty ridiculous. And yes, I am going to stick with ridiculous, I know they were doing their job, and blah blah about the character of the person, doesn't matter. What about the character of the GW??! Kinda BS they took that route.... they brought on the bad wrap themselves.

I have respect for ALL law enforcement officers [SIZE=1](even the idiot that pulled me over on SUNDAY for TEXTING in a SCHOOL ZONE... ugh, don't get me started)[/SIZE]

But, in short, it sucks. They threw the book at you, and hit you right in the face.

I never knew about the processing law; unfortunately I do now.

Sorry Bud. I'll buy you a beer/case of Vodka soon/6 lunch shots in Mexico soon.
You probably don't have kids do you. When you do, you will not want people not being resposible with their vehicle while driving thru their school zone as well!!! School zones are suppose to be a safer place for kids. How much safer are you making it when your not even paying attention to the road??? All it takes is a few seconds and WHAM the damage is done. You are charged with man slaughter not just a ticket!!! How would you feel about that?
Everyone knows about this law by now and all I ask is please pay attention to this one. I know you think the tickets given to legdog are petty but remember laws are made for a reason, and hopefully you understand the importance of the one you broke.
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Old 10-10-2009, 02:13 PM   #410
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You probably don't have kids do you. When you do, you will not want people not being resposible with their vehicle while driving thru their school zone as well!!! School zones are suppose to be a safer place for kids. How much safer are you making it when your not even paying attention to the road??? All it takes is a few seconds and WHAM the damage is done. You are charged with man slaughter not just a ticket!!! How would you feel about that?
Everyone knows about this law by now and all I ask is please pay attention to this one. I know you think the tickets given to legdog are petty but remember laws are made for a reason, and hopefully you understand the importance of the one you broke.

I don't like texting at all while a vehicle is moving, but Hilly's deal was on a Sunday Russ...not sure what the laws are but my guess that is why she received a warning after she called his bluff and said she would let the judge decide.
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Old 10-10-2009, 02:47 PM   #411
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[QUOTE=Michael;1903628]You wouldn't condone speeding to get there, now would you?

Looking good, Leggett![/QUOTE


Has nothing to do with condoning, I wouldn't be or act SURPRIZED if he gave me a ticket tho, because I have been driving for a "few" years now

When you become a hunter, it is similar to foreigners becoming Americans, your here, speak the language and learn the rules. If you have been living here as long as you have.......well....like I said ignorance isn't an excuse anymore, now is it
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Old 10-10-2009, 02:48 PM   #412
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brown noser...

pffft, my momma didn't raise a fool, I don't hold a grudge, especially if food is concerned
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You probably don't have kids do you. When you do, you will not want people not being resposible with their vehicle while driving thru their school zone as well!!! School zones are suppose to be a safer place for kids. How much safer are you making it when your not even paying attention to the road??? All it takes is a few seconds and WHAM the damage is done. You are charged with man slaughter not just a ticket!!! How would you feel about that?
Everyone knows about this law by now and all I ask is please pay attention to this one. I know you think the tickets given to legdog are petty but remember laws are made for a reason, and hopefully you understand the importance of the one you broke.
I know about the law, and I am a huge fan of it. But my point.....

It was Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't like texting at all while a vehicle is moving, but Hilly's deal was on a Sunday Russ...not sure what the laws are but my guess that is why she received a warning after she called his bluff and said she would let the judge decide.
It is gonna make for a good campfire story one day
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I know about the law, and I am a huge fan of it. But my point.....

It was Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It actually doesn't even matter what day it is. According to the sign entering the school zones its only in effect during the hours the school zone is in effect. My guess is the officer was probably bored and you looked like an easy target.
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Old 10-10-2009, 03:51 PM   #416
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Looks were deseiving.
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Old 10-10-2009, 04:41 PM   #417
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Hilly, what day was it, again??

Sorry, the devil made me do it.

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Old 10-10-2009, 05:18 PM   #418
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I know about the law, and I am a huge fan of it. But my point.....

It was Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HEATHEN!!


Ain't you never heard of Sunday School????

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Old 10-10-2009, 05:20 PM   #419
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Actually. I asked the cop, in a very sarcastic, if their was a church in the school zone

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Old 10-10-2009, 05:57 PM   #420
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Good luck with the judge Legdog.
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Old 10-10-2009, 06:48 PM   #421
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Great story
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:38 PM   #422
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They have a job to do, why would or should they treat you any different than anyone else?? The wardens on post here would not think twice about issuing that ticket. The log requirement has not changed since last year. They are out to do their job. . Congrats on your harvest...and make Mary pay


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So Middleton and I are headed back to Dallas after one heck of a good time at the semi-famous El Rancho Stovall (ERS). We pass a trooper who has a guy pulled over and I say "Man they really work this stretch in here... you really gotta be careful."

Seconds later....

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Yep... apparently the license plate got knocked off at Ben's place.

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We are having fun with the good officer and are doing what we do (take pictures of our silly adventures). Of course the officer wants to know if we had any luck, so we show him our tagged guest of honor.

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He asks me where the rest of the deer is and when I tell him its in the ice chest, he gets a little excited and calls some buddys who happened to be in the nighborhood.

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At this point I'm thinking this is just a fun way to chat with the local officers on the ride home... after all, I have a brand new hunting license and properly tagged game... I had no clue what was going to happen next...

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While Middleton recieves a warning for lack of a license plate, I get not one but two citations from the game wardens.

Last night Mary wanted to practice deboning a ham since her boys usually process her deer for her. I never gave it a second thought as we loaded a baggie full of tenderloins and boned out the hams while talking about carne guisada recipes. Officially I'm cited for processing my deer beyond quartering before my final destination. Then, to top it off, although I tagged my deer properly, I had forgtten to write it on the back of my license log.

Score card:

Middleton a warning for not having a license on his trailer.

Leggett: Two citations with a properly tagged animal and some meat I'm not very interested in eating any more.

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The officers knew about this website and asked Michael if he thought this would paint them in a bad light. I guess they understood they were being a bit "ticky tacky" with the decision to actually cite me while the trooper decided to issue a warning. I filled out the tag while the officer watched me and yet he still chose to cite me. Honestly, I have always been thankful game wardens were out there doing what they do but after today, I was left with a "us against them" feeling that I don't think I'll lose any time soon. Of course, they are just enforcing the laws... that is what they are paid to do.

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Old 10-10-2009, 10:44 PM   #423
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I know about the law, and I am a huge fan of it. But my point.....

It was Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this thread still going on????

Hi Hillary.............

I have been wanting to ask a LEO if the phone usage was only when the school zone lights were flashing. Guess your experience tells me the answer. Guessing that since there are playgrounds at schools and kids using those any day, thats the reason for the anytime rule.


I also realized I never said congrats to Legdog for the good shot on the doe. Congrats man!!!!
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I could not find the processing deal in my book, but found the definition for quartering on page 55, but it's more clear on the TPWD website under Taking, Possessing, Mounting, and Sale of Wildlife, sections 42.001- Definitions(8). I would take it to court if I were you because it's not very clear in the book. What's the worse that could happen....you would have to pay? JMO man.


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This really has no bearing on anything but I have a Concealed Handgun License. Although I rarely ever carry, in my view this means I'm "one of the good guys"... a guy who has had a background check and gave up the time and cash to learn the laws to have the privilege to carry. (for the record, I was not carrying today).

Since I spend a lot more time bowhunting than carrying a pistol, I guess I need to try a little harder to dot my i's and cross my t's in the hunting universe.

Funny thing, not one person in our camp of what I consider to be pretty seasoned hunters made a comment about me "over processing" this deer. While I admit to my error, I just never imagined I was painting so far out the lines that I'd end up with a double hit. I was proud of my deer. A lot of effort went in to hanging that stand, descenting my clothes, capturing it on film, tagging it, processing it, taking care to make sure fresh ice was on it this morning etc etc... When the trooper asked about our weekend I was happy to share a look at our success.

When the game warden informed me he was giving me the double citation I was stunned and said "Wow! How much does that cost?" He replied, "I don't know, but its not in my budget". I agreed with that statement. I didn't budget for this either.

Again, nothing against officers who are doing what they are paid to do. I just wish I had a more positive experience to report on.

I shot her from this stand high up in a native pecan. It really is a great set up that provided me a doe last year as well.

My main lesson outside of the obvious one? I will be a lot less chatty next time.

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Page 59, Processing Carcass in Camp, after notice in the box....


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I could not find the processing deal in my book, but found the definition for quartering on page 55, but it's more clear on the TPWD website under Taking, Possessing, Mounting, and Sale of Wildlife, sections 42.001- Definitions(8). I would take it to court if I were you because it's not very clear in the book. What's the worse that could happen....you would have to pay? JMO man.
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Ignorance isn't an excuse, we all know that.

Some of you are brown nosers.....we all knew that too....

what we DIDN'T know, was that some of you have gone beyond brown nose and have ring around the collar!!

None of us like to be called out when we are wrong, especially if we are in a professional setting. As "guides" to this forum you are looked up to in a sense. Share the lesson and leave the disparaging remarks for those who are not worthy
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Looks good, heck I can't even see a dang deer yet

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Old 10-10-2009, 11:28 PM   #428
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Heck, I think that texting should be illegal while driving period, it's more dangerous than talking on them!


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You probably don't have kids do you. When you do, you will not want people not being resposible with their vehicle while driving thru their school zone as well!!! School zones are suppose to be a safer place for kids. How much safer are you making it when your not even paying attention to the road??? All it takes is a few seconds and WHAM the damage is done. You are charged with man slaughter not just a ticket!!! How would you feel about that?
Everyone knows about this law by now and all I ask is please pay attention to this one. I know you think the tickets given to legdog are petty but remember laws are made for a reason, and hopefully you understand the importance of the one you broke.
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Old 10-10-2009, 11:55 PM   #429
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I know about the law, and I am a huge fan of it. But my point.....

It was Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hillary,tickets can only be given when lights are flashing in an active school zone,and signs must be posted saying cell phones are banned or illegal
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Hillary,tickets can only be given when lights are flashing in an active school zone,and signs must be posted saying cell phones are banned or illegal
Yes I know that.
I don't know if the cop did.

I didn't get a ticket, but I did get a warning for texting in a school zone on a Sunday.

I find it quite comical.
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I have read this WHOLE thread and come to one conclusion...

Poacher!
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Too funny.....yall know we are just giving you a hard time, if it was reversed you would do the same. I feel for ya though Legdog for the ticket cost, that there ain't too funny.

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Old 10-11-2009, 09:01 PM   #433
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I went by our local TPWD office Friday. Asked the question about the tag having to be attached to the carcass. Young lady in the office picked up a cell phone and called a Lieutenant out of Austin and handed me the phone. He told me that you would not be written up if the tag was on the head with the carcass in the ice chest. As long as the two are together in the truck all is good. He even said that many times he attaches his tag to his ice chest when he quarters a deer in camp.
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Not that it makes a difference, but I didn't initially take a picture of the warden holding the bag. After I took a few shots, he asked if I wanted a picture "with the evidence".

Again, they weren't wrong in writing the tickets. However, it does change my attitude in how I communicate with law enforcement. I'm sure they could care less about that. Wait, maybe that's part of the problem.

Michael
Wow, just reading this thread. I was siding with the game wardens, thinking yeah, what choice did they have if this was being publicized, good call GW. Then read this comment in the context of all that's going on today.... still backing the blue and I don't like what's going on but, that caused me to pause...
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Thread revival!


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Old 06-25-2020, 09:01 AM   #436
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You went to the back of the closet to find this one.
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Old 06-25-2020, 09:14 AM   #437
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Why y'all bringin' up old ****?
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Old 06-25-2020, 09:20 AM   #438
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Its all a scam. You have every right to be upset. Writing costly tickets for such a minor infraction? Sure, its the law. Doesn't make it any less ridiculous. Writing tickets (in some cases) is left up to the discretion of the game warden. This was one of those moments.
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New thread to me. I gave up reading at about page 4.

How did the court appearance go?
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Old 06-25-2020, 10:11 AM   #440
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Someone needed a speech on the spirit of the law vs. the letter of the law. Not sure if the GWs do a normal FTO program, but since they were riding double, it could have been a young and cutthroat newbie who hasn't learned proper discretion. I am not a game warden. But I have been writing tickets for a lot of years and I would have cited for one and warned on the other and explained the rules clearly. Citations are about behavior modification. A big part of any LEO's job is education. I would have taken the opportunity to educate with one mad cite with the other.
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Old 06-25-2020, 10:51 AM   #441
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wow. this goes wayyyyyyyyyyy back.... but still made sum good reading..
lesson was learnded I am sure
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Old 06-25-2020, 11:07 AM   #442
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Legdog, what was the outcome, $, on the citations?
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Old 06-25-2020, 11:12 AM   #443
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Not being "ticky tacky" at all.
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:20 PM   #444
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Isn’t the bigger GW now on Lone Star Law?
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Old 06-30-2020, 07:37 AM   #445
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Awwwwe heck, now I am interested in how this turned out. lol

Need an update.


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