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Old 09-14-2018, 01:08 PM   #51
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Results look promising so far.......
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Old 09-14-2018, 01:58 PM   #52
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I've no dog in the fight, and ain't no farmer either, but I did sit in a food plot seminar last week so I'm kind of an expert on oats. . Whether there is any truth to this or not, I don't know, but according to the seminar, forage oats don't grow much more than 8"-10", and stay tender, making them a preferred food to say Bob oats or seed oats. They are also more tolerable to heavy forage, according to the seminar. Another thing that was mentioned, was a pesticide coating (if the need to store them in your shop?) And also a coating that boosts germination a healthy percentage over regular oats. Again I know nothing more than what I was told at the seminar, but they sure made them sound like they were different.

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And I didn't buy any, but did "buy" into the forage oats being different.
Good info here. We switched to not using any mixes many years ago because we don't have a drill and broadcast then use a roller. Each seed is a different size so we spread individually for better coverage. Better seeds with an innoculate or add the innoculate ourselves improve germination significantly for us. We just planted last weekend at a blended rate of 285#'s per acre of forage oats, forage winter wheat, Austrian winter peas, chicory, forage turnips, forage rape, ladino and arrowleaf clover and chuffa. We plant about 14 acres in small plots ranging from 1/2 to 1 1/2 acres. So far the weather has been ideal since planting with a few inches over a few days already.
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We planted some last year. Mowed, tilled, spread by hand and drug a harrow over them. They came up faster, stayed around longer and it appeared the deer preferred them over seed oats planted just 200 yards through the woods. BUT the other site does have 2 feeders, the forage oats just hand corn
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What livinadream said is what I heard also. Made sense to me. Dooped? Well maybe. Maybe not!
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What livinadream said is what I heard also. Made sense to me. Dooped? Well maybe. Maybe not!
You know how long Iíve been waiting for the original spelling police to do this? Duped. Carry on
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Old 09-14-2018, 02:46 PM   #56
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Fishndude, I was across from Dr. Deer's booth in SA and caught his food plot talk too. I traded T-Mate mounts to Rob for five sacks myself. Planing to plant them next weekend. I also went ahead and bought a solar fence charger and poly tape to fence it off.
I sure hope mine do as well as your's.

I've never planted a food plot before.
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Old 09-14-2018, 02:51 PM   #57
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Dr. Kroll was the biologist on a Central Texas lease I guided on. Buck forage was planted in numerous plots across the ranch, and the deer hammered it. We had some cattle panel hoops set up in each plot so you could see how much it was being grazed. When they can't get to it, it really is thick and plush inside those rings. James is an ok guy.
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:05 PM   #58
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To answer your questions.
Buck Forage Oats....success? Yes I would say you are successful in growing them and yes deer are eating them.

Maybe? Yes, maybe.
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:12 PM   #59
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To answer your questions.
Buck Forage Oats....success? Yes I would say you are successful in growing them and yes deer are eating them.

Maybe? Yes, maybe.
There it is, close the thread

All bs a side, looks really good especially for only being in the ground a week. How did you prep and plant them?
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:17 PM   #60
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All bs a side, looks really good especially for only being in the ground a week. How did you prep and plant them?
Threw it by hand and tilled it in. The end.
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:23 PM   #61
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I participated in the planting and research studies of Buck Forage Oats as well as collecting data on the growth rates and preference of deer when compared to other oat varieties such as BOB, Jerry, and other "forage" oats. I can say this, the Buck Forage Oats outside the exclusion cages stayed browsed down to a couple inches, where the BFOs that were in the cage were sometimes up to 12" tall. The other oat varieties would show on average the same growth outside the cage as they did inside (meaning the deer were not browsing them much if at all). Lots of research went in to developing them at LSU which is well known for its agricultural plant research.
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:29 PM   #62
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I participated in the planting and research studies of Buck Forage Oats as well as collecting data on the growth rates and preference of deer when compared to other oat varieties such as BOB, Jerry, and other "forage" oats. I can say this, the Buck Forage Oats outside the exclusion cages stayed browsed down to a couple inches, where the BFOs that were in the cage were sometimes up to 12" tall. The other oat varieties would show on average the same growth outside the cage as they did inside (meaning the deer were not browsing them much if at all). Lots of research went in to developing them at LSU which is well known for its agricultural plant research.


Some more good info there.
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Old 09-14-2018, 04:23 PM   #63
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Get some clover & turnips & broadcast where you didn't put any seed down. You don't need to cover it.
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Old 09-14-2018, 04:27 PM   #64
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Dr. Kroll was the biologist on a Central Texas lease I guided on. Buck forage was planted in numerous plots across the ranch, and the deer hammered it. We had some cattle panel hoops set up in each plot so you could see how much it was being grazed. When they can't get to it, it really is thick and plush inside those rings. James is an ok guy.
Mustang Creek?
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Old 09-14-2018, 04:33 PM   #65
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Last year it looks like I bought 300 pounds of Turner Seed Fall Mix and 500 pounds of 20/10/10 Fertilizer. The guys at Turner know my farmer to my north fence and this was their suggestion for my dirt. I had great success with the plot.

Am I to assume I can buy the same fertilizer combo, but switch the seed from Turner Fall Mix to Buck Forage Oats and have my tractor guy get after it?

Would you add any type of clover in it or just the oats?
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Old 09-14-2018, 04:44 PM   #66
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I've had good luck with the buck forage oats
trying to do a 3 acre plot with buck forage oats, chicory and clover this year if I can get it broke up.
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Threw it by hand and tilled it in. The end.
If you have enough seed, finish what you started on the partial plot. Its looks like its gonna be a game changer.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:56 PM   #68
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I participated in the planting and research studies of Buck Forage Oats as well as collecting data on the growth rates and preference of deer when compared to other oat varieties such as BOB, Jerry, and other "forage" oats. I can say this, the Buck Forage Oats outside the exclusion cages stayed browsed down to a couple inches, where the BFOs that were in the cage were sometimes up to 12" tall. The other oat varieties would show on average the same growth outside the cage as they did inside (meaning the deer were not browsing them much if at all). Lots of research went in to developing them at LSU which is well known for its agricultural plant research.
I use a LSU developed blend, it has oats in it, wonder if they are the same?
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:27 PM   #69
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Last year it looks like I bought 300 pounds of Turner Seed Fall Mix and 500 pounds of 20/10/10 Fertilizer. The guys at Turner know my farmer to my north fence and this was their suggestion for my dirt. I had great success with the plot.

Am I to assume I can buy the same fertilizer combo, but switch the seed from Turner Fall Mix to Buck Forage Oats and have my tractor guy get after it?

Would you add any type of clover in it or just the oats?


Yes on the first part. On the clover, it all depends what type of soil you have. Some clovers do better in certain soil types than others.


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Old 09-15-2018, 12:43 AM   #70
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Cool. I went out there a couple times with Kroll and helped fill doe tags and do necropsy studies.


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This little odd group is showing up pretty regular.





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Old 09-15-2018, 09:31 PM   #73
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Hi Jeff, good seeing you the other day at CCR at the Shoot. we plant BFO every fall. Usually 10-25 acres. I’ve used two types of other oats and they couldn’t handle the browse pressure or the cold. I’m in atoka ok. This year we are doing 10 acres-planted yesterday. I love the stuff and so do the deer. The stuff is so strong that I will have a full stand in spring and I’ll have to brush hog it just to let the clover/chicory come up and take over. I’ll take some pics of it over the next few weeks
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Hi Jeff, good seeing you the other day at CCR at the Shoot. we plant BFO every fall. Usually 10-25 acres. Iíve used two types of other oats and they couldnít handle the browse pressure or the cold. Iím in atoka ok. This year we are doing 10 acres-planted yesterday. I love the stuff and so do the deer. The stuff is so strong that I will have a full stand in spring and Iíll have to brush hog it just to let the clover/chicory come up and take over. Iíll take some pics of it over the next few weeks
Good to see you sir and thanks for the info above. Sure hearing a lot of good things.
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This little odd group is showing up pretty regular.





Oh yeah, they liking it.
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My deer are loving the food plots, not sure if it’s the food plots or blind luck but my deer activity has gotten a lot more regular and seeing bucks I haven’t seen all summer until this last week.
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:45 PM   #77
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I planted a wheat/seed oats mix here at the house last Sat.. It was up in 5 days and deer already on it.
Planted a smaller turnip patch and it's up too.

Hope I'm not too early!

I finished mowing and spraying in OK today and have Harrison oats ready for it in maybe 10 days to two weeks.

Hope the hogs don't wear it out. We're eat up with them up there!

Interested to see how the buck forage work for you. I paid $21.50 per 50# for the Harrison.
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Whatís the difference between Harrison Oats and Buck Forage?
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https://hancockseed.com/harrison-oat...b-bag-656.html

Harrison’s apparently grow big and tall. Dr. Deer says that’s bad.

Seriously what he says and again I’m no fan boy of his. Just made sense that the deer like the tender new growth.

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https://hancockseed.com/harrison-oat...b-bag-656.html

Harrisonís apparently grow big and tall. Dr. Deer says thatís bad.

Seriously what he says and again Iím no fan boy of his. Just made sense that the deer like the tender new growth.
I think thatís the diff that really matters.
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I looked up their website and not a lot of dealers for them. Tractor supply has a product called plotspike forage oats.

I think the closest dealer for buck forage oats here was one Plano and one in Tyler.
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I looked up their website and not a lot of dealers for them. Tractor supply has a product called plotspike forage oats.

I think the closest dealer for buck forage oats here was one Plano and one in Tyler.
The buck forage site does say free shipping though.
Also noticed the plotspike has really good reviews.

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I looked up their website and not a lot of dealers for them. Tractor supply has a product called plotspike forage oats.

I think the closest dealer for buck forage oats here was one Plano and one in Tyler.
MBS Seed in Denton has them.

I think I am going to pick some up tomorrow.
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MBS Seed in Denton has them.

I think I am going to pick some up tomorrow.
Maybe some free shipping via ďHeath expressĒ??

Iíve got another spot I could plow and plant to try them out.
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The distributor guy for Buck Forage is a tbhíer.

Tripodhunter maybe???


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Looking good Jeff I hope your target buck shows up. The way I understand it they come up and grow similar but they like the buck forage better so they eat it better, I have not tested this theory. Good luck Jeff!
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I trust that he's actually done the research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23CNu5T0cow
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I bought 300 pounds today and itís going in the ground on Thursday.
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Anyone had any issues with army worms eating there oats. I have abunch to plant.
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Not yet.
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I've got 50 bags to plant
Wow. I broadcast about 100 lbs+ per acre. Glad I only have 3-4 acres to plant

I also mix elbon rye and wheat. I have tried all the oats and generally get enough to draw deer in, but will go with seed oats or buck forage oats if it is available.
And fertilize later. Trying to get my plots limed soon. If not right now it should help later. Put a cage in each plot to actually gauge the grown. You will be amazed how much the deer mow down.

Love the plot photos. Nice buck.
Good luck and it is addicting!
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Maybe some free shipping via ďHeath expressĒ??

Iíve got another spot I could plow and plant to try them out.
Guess not, Iíll try to get up there and get some.
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Guess not, Iíll try to get up there and get some.


Man, Iím sorry I missed your post. I was actually planning on going tomorrow on my way to ranch but had a break in schedule and ran up there this morning. My bad.
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I trust that he's actually done the research.



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Man, Iím sorry I missed your post. I was actually planning on going tomorrow on my way to ranch but had a break in schedule and ran up there this morning. My bad.
No big deal man I should have pm you, Iíll try to get up there tomorrow.
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If you have a hunting related product youíve spent 19 years developing, Iíd be dang glad to hear about it.

Everyone thatís worth their salt, pimps their ďproductĒ every day.
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We have a very high deer densities. I have about 10 acres to plant this Saturday with 300 lbs of fertilizer per acre. Will re- fertilize when I see it turning yellow with a fertilizer higher in nitrate. Usually lime every 3 year's depends on the soil test. Something I will broadcast Turnipseed over the top.
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Sounds like a good plan.
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We have a very high deer densities. I have about 10 acres to plant this Saturday with 300 lbs of fertilizer per acre. Will re- fertilize when I see it turning yellow with a fertilizer higher in nitrate. Usually lime every 3 year's depends on the soil test. Something I will broadcast Turnipseed over the top.
Didnít you watch the video, turnip as well as rape is a waste of money but come to think of it I do remeber reading a couple threads in recent yrs where guys have had fields of turnips that they donít think were touched and ended up plowing them under. I planted a good bit of turnips this yr mixed in with my oats and wheat. I guess Iíll see what gets eaten first.
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Very Nice plots FND.

I planted the about same time but used the Evolved Harvest 25lb bag on a small plot. Added another small throw and grow to the mix as well as 50lbs of oats, rye, and peas.
I disked where we gave the cows hay all last season in the far back of the property. All that decomposed hay a cow poo made some great soil.

Three days after planting i had a serious plot coming up. This was day 3



And this was day 5




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