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Old 09-13-2018, 04:20 PM   #1
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Default Buck Forage Oats...Success? Maybe??

I say ďsuccess, maybe?Ē because itís too early to tell. I planted Buck Forage Oats a week ago today. We had good rains over the weekend and figured Iíd have noticeable growth in a couple of weeks. I was wrong.

I went yesterday and this is what I saw. As you can see, one plot is only partial because I really didnít plan on actually planting when I did and didnít have enough seed. Anyways, I was surprised to say the least.

The reason for this brand is because my booth at ttha was right across from the Dr. Deer booth and I got hooked in to the hype. The rest of his seminars are funny(he claims to have invented trail cameras and electric fences), but the seed part caught my attention, so I bit like a largemouth bass and was all in.

Well, earlier today, I got the deer pic (one of a few) that you see at the bottom. I guess Iíll wait to form a better opinion but so far, Iím impressed. Fingers crossed and I know Iím a little early on planting but I took a chance.





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Old 09-13-2018, 04:36 PM   #2
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Those brown lawn mowers pictured will have it eat off quick, but it looks real good. Good job. You can always replant this early if needed and food plots are a addicting habit.

You will find out that food plots can never be big enough and hogs are the devil.
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That’s all I’ve been planing for the last 5 years. Hard to not get caught up in the hype and deer on the bag talk, but I really believe in it. My 2 cents.
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Old 09-13-2018, 04:38 PM   #4
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Boy them army worms are going to love you! Maybe not! Looks Good
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Old 09-13-2018, 04:44 PM   #5
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Oats are deer magnets... however you can save some serious money by just getting racehorse oats or even seed oats for a hair more.

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Nah.....you didn’t plant too early Jeff. Just keep an eye out for army worms and hope for some timely rains and you’ll be good!
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Those brown lawn mowers pictured will have it eat off quick, but it looks real good. Good job. You can always replant this early if needed and food plots are a addicting habit.

You will find out that food plots can never be big enough and hogs are the devil.
What he said.

I will say that Buck Forage Oats are good, but wheat is cheaper and it gets deer in front of me, which is the biggest reason for fall plots. Next time, throw some medium red clover on top after you plant the grain. I'd like to have someone else be a guinea pig besides me. Plant at about 12/15 lb. per acre on top. You can still do it right before a rain. I'm told it will last through the summer pretty well and reseed for another year. I have 50lb. coming to try in some of my plots.
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Old 09-13-2018, 04:54 PM   #8
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Those brown lawn mowers pictured will have it eat off quick, but it looks real good. Good job. You can always replant this early if needed and food plots are a addicting habit.

You will find out that food plots can never be big enough and hogs are the devil.
Not my first food plot but first one not doing the Fall Mix type seed.

Note: i didn’t ask what’s better or cheaper.
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I say ďsuccess, maybe?Ē because itís too early to tell. I planted Buck Forage Oats a week ago today. We had good rains over the weekend and figured Iíd have noticeable growth in a couple of weeks. I was wrong.

I went yesterday and this is what I saw. As you can see, one plot is only partial because I really didnít plan on actually planting when I did and didnít have enough seed. Anyways, I was surprised to say the least.

The reason for this brand is because my booth at ttha was right across from the Dr. Deer booth and I got hooked in to the hype. The rest of his seminars are funny(he claims to have invented trail cameras and electric fences), but the seed part caught my attention, so I bit like a largemouth bass and was all in.

Well, earlier today, I got the deer pic (one of a few) that you see at the bottom. I guess Iíll wait to form a better opinion but so far, Iím impressed. Fingers crossed and I know Iím a little early on planting but I took a chance.





We have tested many kinds of oats for almost 10 yret. With the forage oats the difference really comes when the cold weather hits. Have not noticed much difference in early germination that much.
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Old 09-13-2018, 05:14 PM   #10
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Nice, Iím planted an acre with the same seed in a few weeks


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Old 09-13-2018, 06:28 PM   #11
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Looks like you have a good stand going. I'm planting in a few weeks. Is buck forage a different type of oat vs. seed oat? I called today and seed oat is $17.25 a 50.
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Old 09-13-2018, 06:31 PM   #12
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Looks like you have a good stand going. I'm planting in a few weeks. Is buck forage a different type of oat vs. seed oat? I called today and seed oat is $17.25 a 50.
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Did you fertilize it ? Looking good that's about all I plant. Is the side that is up better in the shade ?
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Is the side that is up better in the shade ?

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I went yesterday and this is what I saw. As you can see, one plot is only partial because I really didn’t plan on actually planting when I did and didn’t have enough seed.




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Old 09-13-2018, 07:18 PM   #15
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Did you fertilize it ? Looking good that's about all I plant. Is the side that is up better in the shade ?
Didnít fertilize and as Smart pointed out , as stated above, second plot was only partially planted.
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Old 09-13-2018, 07:38 PM   #16
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:11 PM   #17
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I remember as a kid leaning on an electric fence to pet a horse.
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:13 PM   #18
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So why exactly did half your plot not come up? Did you test you soil?? Just canít undersand why half your plot didnít come up.
Maybe you didnít put in enough seed.















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No he didn't
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Seriously, mine look about the same and I think I planted about the same time. Feed store only had whole oats and whole wheat but it seems to be coming up well so far. I also added some purple top turnips and some fall seed mix. Just hope it brings in some deer. Yours seems to be working pretty well already.
With all the rain it should be a productive spot.
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:22 PM   #21
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I've always noticed that the shady side seems to do better in the early fall
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Wow looks good. Caught the rain at the right time.
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:45 PM   #24
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Looks good Jeff. Should be good with all this rain. Next time you go up fertilize with triple 13 before a rain and it will really pop. JMHO you get what you pay for. Typically, the more expensive brands (pennington, Turner, etc.) do better. I am fairly new in the plot game and used to use just basic seed oats. Always seemed that I had to put twice as much down and they still were half azz plots?? Good luck and looks like you have a good spot for opener. They do love the fresh sprouts...
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Lol y’all! When I finish that one plot, I will add in chickoree and a bag of the Fall Mix. I know nothing about chickoree but the Buck Forage oats guy gave me some. So I’ll use it.
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We've planted it every year for the last six or so years. You won't notice the difference between it and regular or oats until it grows for a while. My brother in law wouldn't spend the money on it the first couple of years. After the second year he couldn't figure out why his was a foot tall and mine was mowed to the ground and still going strong. He's been planting it ever since.
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Just a heads up- army worms are BAD right now they will destroy that plot in 3-4 days. IF you can check it and find them 7 dust for you application will work. They love new fall growth

Plot looks great by the way��
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Where do you get buck forage oats? What’s the price per bag? 40 or 50#
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Iím planting oats this year. I have wheat to my north and south fence. Last year I planted Turners Fall mix abs it had a lot of wheat in it so Iím looking for something different for them. It also had turnips and they didnít touch them.

My buddy Huntmaster said heís had great luck with Buck Forage Oats, so Iím trying it.
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I paid $25/50lb. at TTHA show. Couldnít tell you where to get it but Iíll look around their website.
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I paid $25/50lb. at TTHA show. Couldnít tell you where to get it but Iíll look around their website.
Hmmm, I bet they have a distributor list, Iíll check it out.
I just thought Iíd try it all this yr and did a mix of just about everything I could find and also added fertilizer. What I should have done is plant everything in strips separately to see what the deer in my area prefer. Well either way they will def have a variety buffet this yr. Iím not sure if itís just luck or the deer are liking the new growth because my deer activity on one has prob tripled the last 3 days since it has been coming up strong.
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Not my first food plot but first one not doing the Fall Mix type seed.

Note: i didnít ask whatís better or cheaper.



Note: everyone here is still giving you advice. Take it or donít be an azz
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Old 09-14-2018, 07:41 AM   #33
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Lol! Donít be upset, Dr. Phil.
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Looking good, I've been planting oats for a few years with good success. What I really like is the fact that they will lay in the ground until the rain comes. This is doesn't look to be an issue this year but some years we just don't get the rain when we want it. Mine didn't really kick off till mid December last year. Didn't help my hunting but provided good winter forage and a good hay crop after we allowed it to seed out in the spring.

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Lol! Donít be upset, Dr. Phil.
Donít be upset because you got had by dr. deer. Thereís a good bunch of guys here you can talk to for support.

I just offered my piece of advice, what I figured this site was here for.
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If you can drill them its 50-60lb/acre.
If you broadcast and disc them its 100lbs as a good rule of thumb.
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I've got 50 bags to plant
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We've planted it every year for the last six or so years. You won't notice the difference between it and regular or oats until it grows for a while. My brother in law wouldn't spend the money on it the first couple of years. After the second year he couldn't figure out why his was a foot tall and mine was mowed to the ground and still going strong. He's been planting it ever since.
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I just offered my piece of advice, what I figured this site was here for.

Judging by the above from BHO it sounds like the Dr. Deer stuff is better stuff.. I guess cheaper is not always better..
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Are you sure? How many species of "oats" are there? What makes them diff? Serious question.
We have had excellent luck with plain old oats. Deer mow them down...
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I've no dog in the fight, and ain't no farmer either, but I did sit in a food plot seminar last week so I'm kind of an expert on oats. . Whether there is any truth to this or not, I don't know, but according to the seminar, forage oats don't grow much more than 8"-10", and stay tender, making them a preferred food to say Bob oats or seed oats. They are also more tolerable to heavy forage, according to the seminar. Another thing that was mentioned, was a pesticide coating (if the need to store them in your shop?) And also a coating that boosts germination a healthy percentage over regular oats. Again I know nothing more than what I was told at the seminar, but they sure made them sound like they were different.

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And I didn't buy any, but did "buy" into the forage oats being different.
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Nice! Need to put an exclusion cage in the plot to see how the growth inside compares to what the deer have access to.
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I've no dog in the fight, and ain't no farmer either, but I did sit in a food plot seminar last week so I'm kind of an expert on oats. . Whether there is any truth to this or not, I don't know, but according to the seminar, forage oats don't grow much more than 8"-10", and stay tender, making them a preferred food to say Bob oats or seed oats. They are also more tolerable to heavy forage, according to the seminar. Another thing that was mentioned, was a pesticide coating (if the need to store them in your shop?) And also a coating that boosts germination a healthy percentage over regular oats. Again I know nothing more than what I was told at the seminar, but they sure made them sound like they were different.

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And I didn't buy any, but did "buy" into the forage oats being different.


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I've no dog in the fight, and ain't no farmer either, but I did sit in a food plot seminar last week so I'm kind of an expert on oats. . Whether there is any truth to this or not, I don't know, but according to the seminar, forage oats don't grow much more than 8"-10", and stay tender, making them a preferred food to say Bob oats or seed oats. They are also more tolerable to heavy forage, according to the seminar. Another thing that was mentioned, was a pesticide coating (if the need to store them in your shop?) And also a coating that boosts germination a healthy percentage over regular oats. Again I know nothing more than what I was told at the seminar, but they sure made them sound like they were different.

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Sounds reasonable, I'd like to do a comparison planting next season if I can find some.
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:53 AM   #46
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Sounds reasonable, I'd like to do a comparison planting next season if I can find some.
I'm thinking I might do it this year. Haven't planted yet.
The seminar I sat thru was put on by a big name seed company, but not buck forage oats. But when talking about oats, they seemed to speak for all forage oats vs regular, not just their own.

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Old 09-14-2018, 11:55 AM   #47
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So are forage oats (say Harrison Oats) the same as buck forage oats?
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:57 AM   #48
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seeing good sign already! surely you will see bigger bucks start to use the plot!
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Old 09-14-2018, 12:04 PM   #49
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I planted some 2-3yrs ago. we don't have a lot of deer in our area. had a stand to make any farmer proud may try again
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Old 09-14-2018, 12:04 PM   #50
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Just my opinion, drill in bu$$forage oats and be sure to have scamsoil in your tractor.
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