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Old 01-06-2019, 11:00 PM   #1
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I've read a lot on hog traps and how hogs learn not to go into them. I also know the best way to trap a wild animal or cow or horse is to trap them without them knowing they've been trapped. My theory is give them enough space to run down their worry and silently move in on them - be it to load them on a trailer or shoot them.

Also, here's what I've read about hog traps and why they fail. Hogs are spooked by narrow entrances. They don't like walking on wire. Most traps are too small to trap the sounder and the ones that don't get trapped avoid traps. Trap avoiding hogs can be convinced to enter a trap but there has to be enough space, enough bait, and enough time for them to enter.

Taking this into consideration my team and I built a food plot this summer by first putting up hog wire fencing around 1.5 - 2 acres. This would keep the hogs off of the valuable food plot for the deer during the fall. We deliberately put in a 10 foot wide gate as an entrance for the tractor.

Next was the plan for a drop gate. This weekend the deer season ended and project drop gate started.

Here's my materials:
2 x 10' deep well uni-struts
1 x 10' Sch 40 1"
52" cattle panel (50" will work, too)
2 x 10' rebar
1 x 12'+ pipe or other suitable cross member
50' 3/8" poly rope
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random stick about 2 feet long

First, cut the Sch 40 pipe in half. You can test it first by sliding it up and down the inside of the uni struts.



Second, mark 2" up from one end on each PVC section. This will be where the bottom of the panel rests. Holding it on the panel, put the 2' mark on the bottom rod, mark the rest of the horizontal rods. Repeat for the other 5' section.





Step 3 - mark the pipe sections straight down so you have a cross mark for drilling holes.

Step 4 - drill holes all of the way through with a 1/4" drill bit.

Step 5 - Measure your cattle panel to ensure it is the desired gate length plus. We had a 10 foot wide gate opening, so I added 6" to the panel length (126") to make sure the gate was 6" wider then the posts on the pen. Using that length (126") we laid the PVC down and added the width of it. For those who need an exact measurement, a 1" PVC is actually 1 3/8" outside to outside. Mark the horizontal rods on the cattle panel and cut with bolt cutters. These horizontal rods will slide into the PVC holes.

Step 6 - Put the PVC on the rods. Straighten the PVC and make sure the uni struts will slide easily onto the PVC all of the way through. Use a smaller diameter solid rod to bend the cattle panel into the PVC. Only the top and bottom rods on the cattle panel will bend but make sure they both bend into the center.



Step 7 - Wire small diameter rebar onto the top and bottom of the panel to stiffen it.



The free help - my dad and step son. My dad is still trying to figure this out. Not because he's stupid - he's an engineer and hasn't seen the written plans. He's one of the smartest guys I know and I love him. He was so impressed with this when we finished he told my mom all about it.



Step 8 - drive the unistruts about 2' to 2.5' into the ground, making sure they are straight and level. We actually drove the uni struts with the panel inserted.

Step 9 - add a pipe to the top and wire down to the uni struts. We wanted to be able to remove it later to drive the tractor in, which is why we did not weld it. Oh - and we don't have a welder.



Step 10 - add a 3/8" pulley to the top pipe and tie one end of the rope onto the gate. (I had a snap and tied the rope to the snap.).

Step 11 - pull the other end of the rope through the pulley and walk it out the full length - you will need to have someone holding the gate up or have it propped up.

Step 12 - from the end of the rope, step backwards about 6' and drive a TPost in. Wire down another pulley onto the tpost.

Step 13 - tie a random 2' thick stick to the end of the rope. Place truck tire over stick. Release the gate and make adjustments to hold the gate about 3'+ high.



Step 14 - bump the tire to test the drop. Test it a few times.

Step 15 - fill the truck tire with corn - making sure you get it inside the tire walls. Run a line of corn from the outside of the trap plot to the tire. In all, we used 100# corn.



The tire is heavy so little pigs won't be able to move it. They will be the first ones in. It will take a lot of pigs or a big pig hitting that tire to trigger the gate.

Here's what I like so far - our food plot has 2 small plum groves and a small grove of persimmon trees in it to provide cover for the pigs when they are trapped. They will feel more safe - but they won't be. Second - this trap gate drops very quietly.

What I'm concerned about - the weight of the pull to the truck tire is pulling on my uni struts. I may go back and add ground anchors to off set that pull. Also, I'm concerned the poly rope might stretch.

I'll post pictures of the trapped pigs.
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Old 01-06-2019, 11:14 PM   #2
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Looks interesting.
Good luck on catching some.
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:13 AM   #3
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:33 AM   #4
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I like it!

It'll be interesting to see if they stay calm enough not to try to tear up the gate.


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Old 01-07-2019, 04:51 AM   #5
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:27 AM   #7
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I'm going to have to get one of those wireless cameras so I don't have to go out there every day. This year they hogs have been moving in cycles - for 2-3 weeks they are in the area and for 2ish weeks they move out. I think I'm at the beginning of the new out cycle. I'll bet my deer clean out my corn!
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:30 AM   #8
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I like it!

It'll be interesting to see if they stay calm enough not to try to tear up the gate.


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This is where understanding animal behavior comes in. The space is so big when they come to the gate, they will run down the line looking for the opening. Also, the gate is 52" high where the rest of the fence is 36" high. I'm more concerned about them climbing the corners. Next weekend I'm going to add hog panels on the inside to round the corners so they can't get bunched up in the corners.

I do have a game cam set to video set up on the gate now.
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:41 AM   #9
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I understand the theory, I'm just curious how long before pig instinct takes over and they start tearing things up because they're pigs. What I mean is, a pig will tear up a fence to get out of a 1000 acre pasture, I'm curious how long they will wait in a couple acres. If I remember right, you live there, so it's likely you can catch them before they start acting all pigish.

Is there water in the enclosure?


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Old 01-07-2019, 09:56 AM   #10
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I hate to tell you but I think they are going to wreck your entire set up..
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:06 AM   #11
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Good luck, but I am with mbf, believe Hogs will win unless you get there quickly.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:11 AM   #12
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If you give them to much room to run they will trash your panels and get out
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:12 AM   #13
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I want this to work and will keep checking back in.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:17 AM   #14
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I hate to tell you but I think they are going to wreck your entire set up..
Yup need to reinforce it big time.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:36 AM   #15
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I like to do a 50 ft teardrop shaped pen with a 4 ft wide drop gate at the tip.
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:02 PM   #16
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I like the idea of big you can catch more at one time but I have seen them climb out and push up the fence so not sure how that has been addressed. My first concern is the gate they will lift that sucker up with their nose.

I am not saying you wont catch any but I think you will lose a few as well.
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:14 PM   #17
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I agree with the others, and don't think its built well enough. If you get a big boar/sow in there, they will tear it up and probably get out, just my opinion.
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:24 PM   #18
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A decent sized hog will run straight through that fence.
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:22 PM   #19
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We'll see. If it works, great. If not, I'll make it better.

The hog fencing is high tensile and unlikely to give easily. My bull pushed on high tensile fence to my neighbors place. He pulled 5 tposts out and the fence never broke. He never made it through.
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:32 PM   #20
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Good luck

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You could also sell guaranteed hunts once you have a few in there
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:47 PM   #21
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I like the theory and I'm sure it will need some tweaking to keep them in. Good luck.
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:54 PM   #22
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:19 PM   #23
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I've been wanting to do the same around our oats patch, but I plan on doing a second push through gate at a corner (or near the entering gate) that allows them to get out of the oats patch into a second trap made of bull panels.
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Old 01-07-2019, 04:42 PM   #24
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I've been wanting to do the same around our oats patch, but I plan on doing a second push through gate at a corner (or near the entering gate) that allows them to get out of the oats patch into a second trap made of bull panels.
That's a creative Idea.
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Old 01-07-2019, 04:45 PM   #25
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Interested to see how it performs! good luck!
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How big is the pen the gate is attached to?
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:14 PM   #27
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:48 PM   #28
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Cool idea, hope it works, but like others I am a little skeptical. Not sure if if will be sturdy enough all the way around. Looking forward to seeing how it works. Good luck !!
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:14 PM   #29
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My first thought was that they might be able to lift the gate. If they do, you could probably rig up some kind of spring closure that prevents it from being lifted.
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Interested to see the results
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How big is the pen the gate is attached to?
Two (2) acres with several areas of good brush and trees.
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:56 AM   #33
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So, what are you going to do when you have 8-10 pigs in the "trap"? How are you going to catch/kill them? Once they see you they are going to try to haul a** and break through your fencing and it will get really wild when the first bullet gets fired. I think the trap will work as far as trapping the pigs, just curious as to how you the rest will go.
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So, what are you going to do when you have 8-10 pigs in the "trap"? How are you going to catch/kill them? Once they see you they are going to try to haul a** and break through your fencing and it will get really wild when the first bullet gets fired. I think the trap will work as far as trapping the pigs, just curious as to how you the rest will go.
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:32 AM   #35
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I'm already thinking I'm going to add a top strand and low strand hot wire, too, but it will be a little bit before I can get to it. I have the chargers and wire; I just need the time to do it.
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:37 AM   #36
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:39 AM   #37
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Iím in for some follow up action.
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:52 AM   #38
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I wish you only the best in this endeavor.
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:54 AM   #39
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they will also destroy your hot wire
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:58 AM   #40
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Ok, Debbie Downer. I'm still going to try it.
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:03 PM   #41
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Im not trying to be negative here but all I can see in my head is hogs running around like crazy with 200 ft of hot wire tangled around a back leg tearing through the wire fence and pvc enforced gate.. please post pictures of the outcome
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:07 PM   #42
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good start, this will be a good one to follow. fun project.
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:10 PM   #43
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:22 PM   #44
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They will tear that wire up. We had one similar to this, but it was a big trap for cattle that funneled down to our cattle pens. Basically and in closed wing. We had a lot of old tin that we cut in half, long ways, and lined the bottom of the net wire with it. We took rebar and cut it in small pieces and hammered it into the ground to keep the tin pushed against the wire. Once the hogs were in the trap we would drive in and push them into our pipe cattle pens that were lined with hog panel on the bottom. We could then load them through the chute onto a trailer. We've caught groups of 60+ a couple of times.

Your theory is right, but the way it is now you will be fixing fence after your first catch.
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:30 PM   #45
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In for the pics, good luck.
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:50 PM   #46
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I love the gate and the thought process that went through it to piece together materials to make it work. The PVC and the uni-struts are ingenious

However, I agree with the common sentiment that the bigger plan isn't going to be that successful... but who knows.

I've heard from at least 2 small acreage (100a) hog hunting outfits that hogs brought in off a trailer tend to just run the fence line looking to bust out. So your fence has to be stout and even so they get some losses. They do eventually calm down though...

I've also seen some ranches that have penned up hogs that were feral trapped pigs that you'd think were just domestic at that point... even coming and going through a gate that got left open...

I think if a pig wanted out of your setup, it'd be pretty darn easy. Maybe I didn't see it, but it looks like they could nose up that gate fairly easily... Also, what can keep out a big cow isn't really a good analogy for a hog... I see lots of fences that keep in cows that have the lower wire bent up... bottom dug out so that the hog could get out...

The one thing you do have going for you though is that the place is big... so maybe they won't stress out... The reason traps are either very big or very small is because the smaller they are the more stout they have to be...

I'm tuned in... curious for your results. I don't think your experiment will be a waste... I think you will learn a lot and we'll also learn something along the way...
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Old 01-08-2019, 01:28 PM   #47
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I am guessing that they won't panic too much in that big of an area. They may destroy the inside though and once they have made up their mind to escape, that wire fence will not keep them in, they will lift it up from the bottom and get under it.

Could be fun and agree you will have a better chance to trap a larger group. But you are not really trapping here, you are corralling them.
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Old 01-08-2019, 06:16 PM   #48
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Cool !! Make sure you have a third person to video the action. That will be cool to watch.
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Old 01-08-2019, 08:04 PM   #49
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Looks good. May work - may not, but looks like you're giving it a good shot. If you're worried about them lifting the gate (and I'm not sure how you would rig it without a welder), but I put a bar with a hinge on the top end and a rod on the bottom that slides into a hole just above where the top of the gate ends up fully closed. The PVC on yours would keep the rod pushed out until the gate closes, then fall into a hole to keep it from being pushed back up. Not sure that makes sense and my trap is loaned out, so I can't get pictures.

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Old 01-08-2019, 08:33 PM   #50
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In my experience when a hog escapes a trap (corral type) you can generally catch them again. They are confident that they can get back out, and will try the same method of escape. If that fails they will try and make a new one.

Point being I think they will likely bust out of there. A big hog will slam into that gate with everything they have plus a running start. Generates a ton of force and stress on your trap.

If they do you can get them again though. I am interested in how it goes. Good luck!
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