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Old 12-19-2018, 05:55 PM   #51
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Would just mixing a bag of Safeguard pellets in with the feed do the same thing?
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:11 PM   #52
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I plan on feeding it this spring and then maybe again in August.
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:36 PM   #53
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I’ve seen Mexico’s deer. There’s zero doubt that they look incredible. Any of you guys that feed protein should be doing this. If you’re on a low budget, it’s proba the most beneficial thing you can do
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:23 PM   #54
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Iíve seen Mexicoís deer. Thereís zero doubt that they look incredible. Any of you guys that feed protein should be doing this. If youíre on a low budget, itís proba the most beneficial thing you can do
You're gonna have to come back.... apparently you left around 1.3 million javalinas behind still...
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Old 12-22-2018, 10:44 PM   #55
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Would just mixing a bag of Safeguard pellets in with the feed do the same thing?


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Old 12-27-2018, 02:50 PM   #56
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Just called L&E, quoted me $22.90/bag for the 17% protein with dewormer. Mexico is this what you are feeding? Where are you getting it for $17?
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Old 12-27-2018, 02:56 PM   #57
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Just called L&E, quoted me $22.90/bag for the 17% protein with dewormer. Mexico is this what you are feeding? Where are you getting it for $17?
We get it from a distributor in Mexico. He buys in a huge bulk quantity. I believe we are paying closer to 19 a bag now. It's expensive but worth it, and in all reality you really don't need that much.

We feed about a ton a year of medicated not including the regular 20 percent we feed.

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Old 12-27-2018, 03:47 PM   #58
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Old 12-27-2018, 03:51 PM   #59
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I spoke to my vet about wormer and medicated feed, he said it might be better to treat the water source with a product and cheaper as well. Thoughts? I am going to bring him stool samples from deer in my area of the lease to see if they do in fact have worms.
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Old 01-02-2019, 01:27 PM   #61
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jumping in on it as well, will run it in the spring and fall.
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Old 01-02-2019, 02:19 PM   #62
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Does anyone on here feed medicated protein? We medicate our herd twice a year spring/fall with LnE medicated. Kills all internal and external parasites and during the summer they don't get that drab heat spot look.
Last year all our deer harvested except one didn't have a tick on them. We are low fence so that's not a surprise that we had one that possibly didn't eat our feed.
Seems like it has made a huge difference on live weight, and obviously horn growth since the bucks are spending their energy growing horns and not feeding ticks....
If you're feeding it have you noticed a difference in your herd?
If you don't mind me asking, isn't that a little dangerous for human consumption?
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Old 01-02-2019, 02:20 PM   #63
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Reading online about SafeGuard pellets, it looks like one 10 pound box of pellets would be more than enough to medicate a ton of feed.


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Old 01-02-2019, 02:23 PM   #64
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I used to use the dewormer/medicated feed. I did not see a huge difference.
One of the cons to it is the deer become accustomed to having this in there diet and it might compromise there immunity to natural disease. Deer have built up a natural immunity to various diseases and parasites and in the long run they may loose that ability if you continue to feed it to natural free ranging deer. I am not a biologist, just repeating what I have heard.
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Old 01-02-2019, 02:28 PM   #65
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All these questions have been answered already if you read through the whole thread
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All these questions have been answered already if you read through the whole thread
I didn't see anything about human consumption on here. According to what research I have looked at, it isn't recommended.
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Old 01-02-2019, 03:48 PM   #67
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I didn't see anything about human consumption on here. According to what research I have looked at, it isn't recommended.
Well then you better not eat cattle either, it's very common to the same medication. its completely out of their system in 30 days and is safe for consumption after that.
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I'm confused. It's a wormer.
How does it work on ticks?
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Old 01-02-2019, 04:19 PM   #69
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I'm confused. It's a wormer.
How does it work on ticks?
A wormer with added medication that also kills all internal and external parasites.

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Old 01-02-2019, 04:38 PM   #70
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The active ingredient is Fenbendazole. It can't do anything to ticks as far as I know. Maybe someone with more knowledge on this can chime in. I think there are some vets on TBH.
I raise exotics and us the M-G zoo wormer every spring. Main ingredient on it is Fenbendazole as well. I recently bought 2 dybowski sika males and they came in a little thin looking (I wasn't there when they turned them loose) so we darted them and I had the vet check them for worms. It came back negative but they did have a lot of ticks on them so he gave them something for the ticks. I'll try to find out what that is.
I never had a worm test done on any of my other deer. The M-G wormer is only a few dollars more than my normal feed so I think it is money well spent.
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Old 01-02-2019, 04:59 PM   #71
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A very interesting discussion you started.
I'm interested in how you do it on free range deer. I never thought about it on our lease but I am interested.
They recommend for the deer to eat so much per day per body weight for 3 days straight. With my exotics that is pretty easy to do. Not sure how easy that is on free range deer.
I'm also not sure how common worms are in free range deer.
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A very interesting discussion you started.
I'm interested in how you do it on free range deer. I never thought about it on our lease but I am interested.
They recommend for the deer to eat so much per day per body weight for 3 days straight. With my exotics that is pretty easy to do. Not sure how easy that is on free range deer.
I'm also not sure how common worms are in free range deer.
The same way you would do it in any pasture. Obviously you will not medicate all your deer in a free range environment, as stated in my original post we did have a deer with ticks, only one.
In my opinion that was well enough for us to continue to feed and absorb the cost of medicated feed, that along with the other observations I've made in previous post.

I'll also add LnE mixes a special blend of feed for Mexico. I won't go into the exact active ingredients but obviously it's not regulated like anything sold in the U.S.
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Well then you better not eat cattle either, it's very common to the same medication. its completely out of their system in 30 days and is safe for consumption after that.
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The same way you would do it in any pasture. Obviously you will not medicate all your deer in a free range environment, as stated in my original post we did have a deer with ticks, only one.
In my opinion that was well enough for us to continue to feed and absorb the cost of medicated feed, that along with the other observations I've made in previous post.

I'll also add LnE mixes a special blend of feed for Mexico. I won't go into the exact active ingredients but obviously it's not regulated like anything sold in the U.S.
I know you said you wouldnít go into exact active ingredients. But do you know how much better it is and what differences there are? Something that would kill the ticks thatís not in the US blend?
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Old 01-03-2019, 07:22 PM   #75
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Well then you better not eat cattle either, it's very common to the same medication. its completely out of their system in 30 days and is safe for consumption after that.
This. My biologist told me not to feed it past the end of August since I am MLD.
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Old 01-05-2019, 04:34 PM   #76
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interesting . L and E tried to get me to feed it twice a year last year and i was set to do it. when i discussed with my biologist he was not happy. He also said it was illegal unless it was pen raised farm deer. He stated was not good for natural immunity of the herd. I am on MLD 3 and followed his advice. I am sure in mexico it doesn't matter at all but wonder if it is really legit for native deer in south texas. seems odd ....
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Old 01-05-2019, 04:39 PM   #77
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interesting . L and E tried to get me to feed it twice a year last year and i was set to do it. when i discussed with my biologist he was not happy. He also said it was illegal unless it was pen raised farm deer. He stated was not good for natural immunity of the herd. I am on MLD 3 and followed his advice. I am sure in mexico it doesn't matter at all but wonder if it is really legit for native deer in south texas. seems odd ....
Gotcha. We have a very well know biologist that actually suggested we feed it 3 times a year instead of 2. We stuck with 2 for price reasons.

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Gotcha. We have a very well know biologist that actually suggested we feed it 3 times a year instead of 2. We stuck with 2 for price reasons.

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We feed it twice a year dosed in our protein south of the border as well. Deer have all been in great shape and we havenít noticed any significant parasites on them at all. We feel anything we can do to help the health of our herd will allow them to better express their genetic poetential, buck or doe.
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Old 01-05-2019, 06:33 PM   #79
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Interesting thread and good info. This was the second year I fed protein (actually dairy pellets) at my place in OK, and I’ve been wanting to find some feed that has wormer in it. My Sunday school teacher is a vet, and he suggested doing it.
I’m going to check with L&E and see where I can buy a ton or two.
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