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Old 10-11-2018, 09:22 PM   #1
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Old 10-11-2018, 09:28 PM   #2
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Nice! Tannerite?

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Old 10-11-2018, 09:32 PM   #3
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Wow that’s good shooting
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Impressive! Nice shooting!


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Very cool!
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Very impressive Rick - great shot!
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I'm not going to lie. I practiced this shot on an empty uncharged bottle for 3 afternoons about an hour each. I had a lot of misses, but they were near misses, and I beat the snot out of that bottle on a lot of the shots, but could not puncture it due to the field point shoulders, and the angle the arrows were coming in. The bottle is just to light weight to keep from pushing away.

I'm pretty good at holding a vertical line, and have always been good at envisioning an imaginary spot to shoot at.

Once I figured out the particulars (including using different points), I knew I could get it done in just a few shots, and even my misses would be close & in the video, so I charged up a new bottle, and gave er a go.

DRT - It was a 2 liter coke bottle with blue pop line chalk in it, and 90 PSI of air pressure. Makes a real nice little pop when punctured.

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2nd shot? That's awesome, I'd still be shooting.
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It did Rick. My 4yo grandson loved it.

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That's pretty impressive!

Nice shooting.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:14 PM   #11
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Excellent shot!

How did you determine what PSI the bottles would hold?
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Rick,

I could never make a shot like that....I don't drink Coca-Cola!

Always entertaining!

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I could never make a shot like that....I don't drink Coca-Cola!

Always entertaining!

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Mix equal parts of Crown with it and it tastes much better.

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Great shooting Rick! I love the trajectory of the arrow in the slow motion replay. It's coming down on at least a 30 degree angle!
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Old 10-12-2018, 07:43 AM   #15
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Impressive
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Well I'll say!!! Arvin
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SEWAGE!!!!!!



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That's just spectacular!
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Awesome!
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So, is that a regular automotive tire valve stem mounted in the cap of the bottle, so you could air up the bottle? How did you decide on 90 psi? (hope there wasn't "error" with a trial and error at, say 95 psi )
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Old 10-12-2018, 03:05 PM   #22
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My thoughts exactly about that 90 psi.
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So, is that a regular automotive tire valve stem mounted in the cap of the bottle, so you could air up the bottle? How did you decide on 90 psi? (hope there wasn't "error" with a trial and error at, say 95 psi )
Yes.
I drilled a hole in the cap, and installed a regular pull in rubber valve stem.

The maximum pressure rating on the bottle is 110#.
The average failure pressure is 150#.
I always keep it at 90#, or a little below.

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Old 10-13-2018, 01:58 PM   #24
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There has been a few folks asking just exactly how I aimed for this shot.

In this picture, the blue dot represents the level the bottle was setting in my vision, and the green dot represents where I was looking, and pointing/aiming the arrow. Yep, way up there.

Like I said in an earlier post, I practiced the shot on three different afternoons for about one hour each.

On the first afternoon I tried several different aiming methods:
I started with Gaping off the riser, and switched my 3 under hold anchor from index finger at corner of mouth to an under the chin anchor, and even shot split finger that way some.

It didn't take me long (first afternoon) to realize I was most confident, comfortable, and consistently accurate with my normal 3 under hold, and anchoring index finger at the corner of my mouth/nose on the fletch, and simply aiming with the arrow tip, and aiming it high.

At that point it was only a matter of figuring out how high to hold, and practice steadily holding that vertical line at that height.

There's nothing to reference in that sky, so it all boiled down to seeing the vertical line in my imagination, and seeing an imaginary spot in the sky to aim at along that vertical line.

It was fun (very fun) to do from the start of the practicing/learning all the way to the conclusion. I can tell already, that my shooting has improved at the closer distances a little bit.

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Nice! Tannerite?

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Ha!!!

Definitely not enough KE/V for tannerite.... I don't care what your draw weight is.
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Old 10-15-2018, 12:23 PM   #27
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To everyone wondering about the valve stem caps, they sell these at academy and other stores too! Got some last week and have yet to try them out.

RickBarbee you are the man! Wish I could even get my arrow that close shooting my compound bow. I'd still be looking for arrows...
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There has been a few folks asking just exactly how I aimed for this shot.

In this picture, the blue dot represents the level the bottle was setting in my vision, and the green dot represents where I was looking, and pointing/aiming the arrow. Yep, way up there.

Like I said in an earlier post, I practiced the shot on three different afternoons for about one hour each.

On the first afternoon I tried several different aiming methods:
I started with Gaping off the riser, and switched my 3 under hold anchor from index finger at corner of mouth to an under the chin anchor, and even shot split finger that way some.

It didn't take me long (first afternoon) to realize I was most confident, comfortable, and consistently accurate with my normal 3 under hold, and anchoring index finger at the corner of my mouth/nose on the fletch, and simply aiming with the arrow tip, and aiming it high.

At that point it was only a matter of figuring out how high to hold, and practice steadily holding that vertical line at that height.

There's nothing to reference in that sky, so it all boiled down to seeing the vertical line in my imagination, and seeing an imaginary spot in the sky to aim at along that vertical line.

It was fun (very fun) to do from the start of the practicing/learning all the way to the conclusion. I can tell already, that my shooting has improved at the closer distances a little bit.

Rick
Well, why didn't you just aim at that green dot on top of the obvious dotted line?..... And in a related vein, why do those football referees have so much trouble telling if someone made a first down -- can't they see the yellow line?

Semi-seriously, how bout using one of those side branches as a reference? Also, I see why you thought up the SEWAGE acronym. And your "semi-educated wild arse guesses" are a lot better than most of us could calculate, I imagine.

Amazing display of "Arching". Would have made a great artillery gunner!
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Old 10-19-2018, 01:24 PM   #29
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Ha!!!

Definitely not enough KE/V for tannerite.... I don't care what your draw weight is.
Gosh Dang Man!!! We get it. You got a thing for raising DRT's hackles, but holy heck give it a rest. I'd love to read a thread without it turning into you two going back and forth like two middle schoolers.


Sorry if that sounds harsh, I don't have anything against you or DRT but I cant stand the constant back and forth.
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Gosh Dang Man!!! We get it. You got a thing for raising DRT's hackles, but holy heck give it a rest. I'd love to read a thread without it turning into you two going back and forth like two middle schoolers.


Sorry if that sounds harsh, I don't have anything against you or DRT but I cant stand the constant back and forth.
You're right. I am out. I am tired of the nonsense. Classic example of being the one called out for pushing back.

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Old 10-20-2018, 12:04 AM   #31
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The problem is in most cases when someone sees someone else consistently give what they consider bad advice most people won’t dare say anything. At least Scott has the stones to call someone out when he feels they are giving bad advice!
True, at times it gets a little heated on both sides but I actually kinda get a kick out of it!
Livens up the place cause it does get a little boring sometimes!
Maybe I’m just weird! Lol

Sorry OP!
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The problem is in most cases when someone sees someone else consistently give what they consider bad advice most people wonít dare say anything. At least Scott has the stones to call someone out when he feels they are giving bad advice!
True, at times it gets a little heated on both sides but I actually kinda get a kick out of it!
Livens up the place cause it does get a little boring sometimes!
Maybe Iím just weird! Lol

Sorry OP!
I don't have a problem with disagreeing with someone's advice. But what makes person A, that has x amount of experience, any more credible than person B, that has a comparable amount of experience? Honestly even that wasn't my point. My point was it seems to me that this little rivalry (read pissing contest) has grown to the point that several threads have been hi-jacked or at least derailed. No hard feelings towards either Swamp or DRT as I have enjoyed several of their posts and have gained a little knowledge from both of them.

JMHO FWIW
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I know both Scott and Gary personally. Scott is probably one of the more experienced trad guys that posts regularly, and he's a good dude. Gary has the drive for sure and is progressing really quick, probably more so than the average guy. They'll both openly tell ya that they're pretty opinionated and outspoken, so......that's where it comes from. It's all good. Neither one of them are intentional trouble makers so I'm sure things will cool off!!
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Go shoot an exploding bottle, or heck even pop a balloon. It'll make y'all feel better.

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Go shoot an exploding bottle, or heck even pop a balloon. It'll make y'all feel better.

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I just might.. Id have to put my bottle in an arm floatie though because we don't have a 100yds in one stretch that isn't underwater. lol

And just for the record I don't feel bad.
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I know both Scott and Gary personally. Scott is probably one of the more experienced trad guys that posts regularly, and he's a good dude. Gary has the drive for sure and is progressing really quick, probably more so than the average guy. They'll both openly tell ya that they're pretty opinionated and outspoken, so......that's where it comes from. It's all good. Neither one of them are intentional trouble makers so I'm sure things will cool off!!
Funny you say that because if you go back through the green screen posts they appear to have started shooting or at least talking about and asking questions about traditional archery with in about 1 month of each other. So like I said the seem to have comparable experience levels and VERY DIFFERENT personal preferences. LOL
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Guys I don't know him personally. I respect his abilities with a bow. I also know he is friends with people here I like so I'm sure he is a solid individual. I'm not sure when I offended him personally and it was not my intent to. I've attempted to apologize for that and realistically I can't do much more than that.
In life you aren't going to be liked by everyone. Honestly I don't need him, or any particular person in general, to like me. However I haven't just been looking for posts just to contradict and belittle him on. I don't agree with a process or piece of equipment used I'll tell you why I prefer another and let you make your choice.
I have a different sense of humor. Sometimes I offend without intention due to that. I also am not good with doing stuff "because I told you to" and that offends some. Most people who have shared a hunting camp or sat around a campfire with me know I will always work hard to do my part and take care of the needs of others if I have the ability to do so. I'm not just a smart *** but that part does come with the package.
Again, if I made the "first shove" I apologize. To Swamp and the rest of the trad camp.

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I just might.. Id have to put my bottle in an arm floatie though because we don't have a 100yds in one stretch that isn't underwater. lol

And just for the record I don't feel bad.
You don't have to be feeling bad to feel better.
Just saying.

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You don't have to be feeling bad to feel better.
Just saying.

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Very True..... Never actually stopped to think about it that way.
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Funny you say that because if you go back through the green screen posts they appear to have started shooting or at least talking about and asking questions about traditional archery with in about 1 month of each other. So like I said the seem to have comparable experience levels and VERY DIFFERENT personal preferences. LOL
I don't know when Gary started actually shooting trad. But I know when I did. I have been at it for a measly 4.5 years. Still just a newby trying to soak it all up and figure it out. I have learned a ton from some great fellas on here... alot of which don't post much, or at all.

There is a big difference in my book between questioning to understand vs questioning to argue. I have heard lots of advice that doesnt work for me... but I dont try to be openly condescending about it... a trait that follows the theme of this group for years.

But there has been a voice of negativity lately... one of throwing advice back in peoples face... belittling thier experience and just comparing it to thier own... a vein of judgemental nature.

I have met Gary once and he was rude and condescending to me directly as well as others. I give people online the benefit of the doubt until I have met them.

I chose to ignore it publically on here... but yes, I drew the line when it turned into giving advice about things that did more harm than good.

It also did raise my hackles more recently when he posted outside the the trad forum and threw the trad forum under the bus... that was intentional snarkiness and condescending tone that set me off... maybe you didn't see it... or it didn't bug you.

It did me. Plenty of folks spent alot of time on here helping people... they are humble and don't look for praise... I try my best to be like those people. Uplifting, encouraging, and not argumentative, sharing what others have taught me.

For the record... I am an average, at best, hunter and trad bow hunter. There are way too many folks on here that hunt and shoot on a much higher level. While I appreciate the kind words, I am not deserving. So even though I think Gary started a few years after me, it doesn't really matter, does it?

Now... I do care what people think of me. It's something more people should do so that they keep thier actions in check. And because of that... even though there is a much bigger picture than you have painted... i respect that this looks differently to those who have not been around much.... or that I have become the negativity that bothered me so much in the first place.

And with that... i apoologize for ruining your TBH experience. I am out and will once again filter stuff out and maybe just take a break all together from this site.



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Old 10-20-2018, 07:24 PM   #42
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In the immortal words of Rodney King: Can we all just get along?

Some of us could probably use a little more restraint.

Some of us could probably be a little less sensitive.

Others could avoid fanning flames.

While we're sticking up for the Traditional Forum, I'd personally love to see more shooting the weekly challenge shots.

For the record, I haven't met Scott, but have enjoyed and appreciated his analytical approach to archery and hunting issues and strategies. I have met and hunted with Gary, and enjoy his company in the field and around the campfire. I have found him fun and knowledgeable in many areas. Does he like to poke the bear? Yes.
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Old 10-20-2018, 07:33 PM   #43
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It could be worse.

You could have someone going around posting incomplete quotes from you, presenting those quotes totally out of context, then inviting others to dog pile with him onto you for a good old fashion gang bang crucifixion.

I say - back to back, 50 paces, turn & fire.

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What do us old guys do that can't see 50 paces??

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Old 10-20-2018, 08:34 PM   #45
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Do you remember when I shot that rutting buck in the neck and the arrow fell out and that Rymancat drunk and his 20 something chronies jumped on my case so bad over on Stickbow. Said I was a "FOOL" for shooting a deer in the neck. Turned me off of that site completely!!!

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Cool video! Thanks for sharing the video and explanation on how you did it!
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Old 10-21-2018, 08:18 AM   #48
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I don't know when Gary started actually shooting trad. But I know when I did. I have been at it for a measly 4.5 years. Still just a newby trying to soak it all up and figure it out. I have learned a ton from some great fellas on here... alot of which don't post much, or at all.

There is a big difference in my book between questioning to understand vs questioning to argue. I have heard lots of advice that doesnt work for me... but I dont try to be openly condescending about it... a trait that follows the theme of this group for years.

But there has been a voice of negativity lately... one of throwing advice back in peoples face... belittling thier experience and just comparing it to thier own... a vein of judgemental nature.

I have met Gary once and he was rude and condescending to me directly as well as others. I give people online the benefit of the doubt until I have met them.

I chose to ignore it publically on here... but yes, I drew the line when it turned into giving advice about things that did more harm than good.

It also did raise my hackles more recently when he posted outside the the trad forum and threw the trad forum under the bus... that was intentional snarkiness and condescending tone that set me off... maybe you didn't see it... or it didn't bug you.

It did me. Plenty of folks spent alot of time on here helping people... they are humble and don't look for praise... I try my best to be like those people. Uplifting, encouraging, and not argumentative, sharing what others have taught me.

For the record... I am an average, at best, hunter and trad bow hunter. There are way too many folks on here that hunt and shoot on a much higher level. While I appreciate the kind words, I am not deserving. So even though I think Gary started a few years after me, it doesn't really matter, does it?

Now... I do care what people think of me. It's something more people should do so that they keep thier actions in check. And because of that... even though there is a much bigger picture than you have painted... i respect that this looks differently to those who have not been around much.... or that I have become the negativity that bothered me so much in the first place.

And with that... i apoologize for ruining your TBH experience. I am out and will once again filter stuff out and maybe just take a break all together from this site.



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I understand what you're saying and I'm sure there is more to the story. I've learned in my line of work that there ALWAYS is. I never intended my comments to be a personal attack on either of you. I only intended to call out the constant bickering. I don't care if you and Gary dislike each other from now until I can outshoot RickBarbee. I just don't want to be a part of it and I don't think that I should have to avoid the Trad page to stay out of it.

I know how it can be sometimes when personalities don't jive and how it can become a constant theme. That is what I noticed and what I was calling to the table. Like I said earlier I enjoy most all the information that both of y'all provide the forum individually and don't want to sound like I'm complaining about either of you on a personal level because that is not the case.

I just like to read through the trad threads without knowing that an argument between the same people over the same topic is going to be the end result not matter what the OP was actually about.


That being said if either of you are ever up around Hagerman or that general area look me up and Ill buy you a cold beer or two.
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I understand what you're saying and I'm sure there is more to the story. I've learned in my line of work that there ALWAYS is. I never intended my comments to be a personal attack on either of you. I only intended to call out the constant bickering. I don't care if you and Gary dislike each other from now until I can outshoot RickBarbee. I just don't want to be a part of it and I don't think that I should have to avoid the Trad page to stay out of it.

I know how it can be sometimes when personalities don't jive and how it can become a constant theme. That is what I noticed and what I was calling to the table. Like I said earlier I enjoy most all the information that both of y'all provide the forum individually and don't want to sound like I'm complaining about either of you on a personal level because that is not the case.

I just like to read through the trad threads without knowing that an argument between the same people over the same topic is going to be the end result not matter what the OP was actually about.


That being said if either of you are ever up around Hagerman or that general area look me up and Ill buy you a cold beer or two.
So you're gonna reward their bad behavior? I haven't argued with anyone and nobody is offering to buy me a beer. Sheesh.
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So you're gonna reward their bad behavior? I haven't argued with anyone and nobody is offering to buy me a beer. Sheesh.
Lol. Not rewarding bad behavior. Iím just saying knock it off and no hard feelings.
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