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Old 09-12-2019, 11:14 AM   #1
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Just want to give a heads up if anyone is choking on food and by themselves. I pray that you never experience this situation, but if you do, maybe this will help.
I had that experience last night at dinner and it was quite possibly the closest I have ever come to dying. It scared me to death but I got lucky, thank you Jesus. I was completely blocked off and I could not breathe, I was in a bind. I immediately tried coughing it up but that didnít work, took a sip of water and that didnít work, so I thrust my abdomen onto the countertop a self-induced Heimlich maneuver. I was working hard and did not want to die and after several attempts I was able to dislodge enough of the food to start breathing again. I could still tell that I was blocked off but I was able to breathe. I took a sip of water (bad thing to do) and it closed my air path and I could not breathe so I had to thrust myself onto the counter top again and again. I really thought I had messed up, but once again I was able to get a path opened back up and could breathe. I did this a few times hoping water would help dislodge the obstruction but all it did was shut me off every time. Lesson learnedÖ.do not drink water if you have a major obstruction in your esophagus. At this time I should have called 911 but I didnít. I was breathing but I was still partially blocked. I was constantly thinking that something would shift and would completely block me off. Again, I should of called 911 but didnít. I could talk, I could walk. I decided to check the internet for any solutions to my situation. I typed in obstruction in throat and choking but able to breathe. I found several web sites with numerous solutions and the one I chose was drink a coke or Pepsi. I grabbed a Pepsi and took several small sips and within a few seconds my throat was completely opened up. Not sure what happened there but boy was I relieved. So this morning/today I canít talk, my throat is very sore my stomach is bruised but I am alive. Thank you Jesus!!!! The reason I am posting this is to make people, my friends, and family aware that if they have a food obstruction, a carbonated drink not water should be consumed. I did not know this but it saved my ***!!!!
Note: Oxygen stored in the lungs can keep you alive for several minutes if your breathing is blocked. But if you donít get the obstructionóthe foodóremoved within four to six minutes, your brain can start to suffer serious damage. Irreversible brain death occurs in about 10 minutes.
Try to keep calm and act fastóyour life depends on it. If you are completely blocked off:
1. Thrust yourself on a chair or counter top. Yes itís the same action youíd use to help someone else who is choking, but youíd be doing it on yourself. Make a fist with one hand and put the thumb side between your belly button and rib cage. Then place your other hand on top of that. Push as hard as you can in a quick motion straight into the area. This will exert pressure on the bottom of the diaphragm, which compresses the lungs and forces the remaining air to push up through the tracheaóhopefully with enough pressure to dislodge the food.
2. If thatís not working, keep your hands in the same position and lean quickly over the back of a sturdy chair or the island bar or counter top to exert more force into the push. This provides a hard pressure wave designed to drive air upward, providing enough force to propel the food out of its stuck position.
3. If five or six quick thrusts isnít doing the job, call 911 immediately, preferably from a landline. At this point, youíve likely lost quite a bit of air and even though you canít speak, and may pass out soon, emergency responders can help.
4. And the most important tip in my opinion is drinking a can of Coke/Pepsi, or another carbonated beverage, this can help dislodge food stuck in the esophagus. Doctors and emergency workers often utilize this simple technique to break up food. Although they donít know exactly how it works, doctors believe that the carbon dioxide gas in soda helps disintegrate the food. Itís also thought that some of the soda gets into the stomach, which then releases gas. The pressure of the gas can dislodge the stuck food.
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Old 09-12-2019, 11:16 AM   #2
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Dang. Glad you are okay. Scary for sure.
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Old 09-12-2019, 11:17 AM   #3
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That's scary. Glad you made it through.
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Old 09-12-2019, 11:24 AM   #4
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Been there done that. Go to a ENT and have them run a camera. I have a condition where my throat constricts due to stomachs acid. I take medication. And once or twice a year they do a procedure that opens my throat back up or opens the restriction. It took my 3rd case like you described before I went to a specialist.
The acid in the Pepsi broke the obstruction up and enabled you to clear it
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Old 09-12-2019, 11:27 AM   #5
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dang...what did you eat?

when i was in college i was in a hurry to get to the gym and threw a scoop of creatine powder in my mouth and was walking to the sink to get a glass of water to wash it down. before i got there (like an idiot) i took a breath and the powder coated my entire throat and i literally could not breath. like you, i ran to the sink and started sipping water and all it did was cake the stuff up.

i was alone and started to panic, cant exactly remember how it happened but i know i was coughing and hacking and gagging enough to get enough of it up that i could finally breathe and then was able to get some water down to wash it out. it was probably a good 20-30 seconds of panic mode where i could not breathe in or out, scared the **** out of me.
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Old 09-12-2019, 11:28 AM   #6
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That is scary stuff right there. I've had a few times where i'm close to that happening and it's a really hard swallow, eyes instantly blinking like mad and panic sets in. My close call was on a twinkie about 20 years ago. Guess that sponge bread stuff did it. That's what I get for eating one of those!
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Old 09-12-2019, 11:34 AM   #7
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Been there done that. Go to a ENT and have them run a camera. I have a condition where my throat constricts due to stomachs acid. I take medication. And once or twice a year they do a procedure that opens my throat back up or opens the restriction. It took my 3rd case like you described before I went to a specialist.
The acid in the Pepsi broke the obstruction up and enabled you to clear it
I’ve got the same thing but not from acid, just my esophagus is too small so they go in a couple times a year and stretch it out. Weird thing for me is the last 3-4 times it’s happened to me it’s been chicken. Looking back I’d say every incident I had other than 1 or 2 has been chicken.

Glad you’re okay OP. It’s a scary feeling

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Old 09-12-2019, 11:37 AM   #8
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Thanks for the thread! Never really thought about it happening by myself, but now that I live alone it definitely could happen. Better to have a plan than googling what to do while choking Glad you made it thru ok!
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Old 09-12-2019, 11:46 AM   #9
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Had this happen with the ex-wife. came home from work one day and she was sitting on the floor in the kitchen and looked like someone just whooped up on her she was so out of breath and kinda just out of it. She was eating raw veggies while cooking and somehow got a piece of carrot stuck in her throat. she said it felt like hours that she couldnt breath and she was for sure i was going to find her dead on the floor. she was in such an adrenaline state she cant to this day remember how she got it out.

Scary stuff OP glad you are ok!
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Old 09-12-2019, 11:56 AM   #10
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Old 09-12-2019, 11:58 AM   #11
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Glad your ok Thanks for posting, I would have never thought about soda.
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Old 09-12-2019, 11:59 AM   #12
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My uncle had a similar experience eating a sandwich while out working in his yard.
As a last resort he cut his water hose and jammed it down his throat. Tore him up pretty good but he lived.
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Old 09-12-2019, 12:02 PM   #13
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dang...what did you eat?

when i was in college i was in a hurry to get to the gym and threw a scoop of creatine powder in my mouth and was walking to the sink to get a glass of water to wash it down. before i got there (like an idiot) i took a breath and the powder coated my entire throat and i literally could not breath. like you, i ran to the sink and started sipping water and all it did was cake the stuff up.

i was alone and started to panic, cant exactly remember how it happened but i know i was coughing and hacking and gagging enough to get enough of it up that i could finally breathe and then was able to get some water down to wash it out. it was probably a good 20-30 seconds of panic mode where i could not breathe in or out, scared the **** out of me.
I had made a combination shrimp/chicken etoufee. I had cut the shrimp and chicken into small pieces.
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More than likely you may have EoE - Eosinophilic esophagitis

Go see an ENT asap

If this happens again, and it is in fact lodged in your esophagus and not your trachea (windpipe), NEVER try and force it down

Glad you were able to make it through this episode.
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Old 09-12-2019, 12:05 PM   #16
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My uncle had a similar experience eating a sandwich while out working in his yard.
As a last resort he cut his water hose and jammed it down his throat. Tore him up pretty good but he lived.
I thought about doing something like that as well.
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Glad to hear you made it out of that situation! That had to of been a scary thing being your alone.
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Old 09-12-2019, 12:07 PM   #18
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Been there done that. Go to a ENT and have them run a camera. I have a condition where my throat constricts due to stomachs acid. I take medication. And once or twice a year they do a procedure that opens my throat back up or opens the restriction. It took my 3rd case like you described before I went to a specialist.
The acid in the Pepsi broke the obstruction up and enabled you to clear it
Thanks I will do that!
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I've sometimes wondered, how would you get 911 to find you if you were in a hotel room and couldn't speak? When I travel for work I often eat from my room so I can monitor my work at the same time.
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More than likely you may have EoE - Eosinophilic esophagitis

Go see an ENT asap

If this happens again, and it is in fact lodged in your esophagus and not your trachea (windpipe), NEVER try and force it down

Glad you were able to make it through this episode.
Thank you. I will get that checked out.
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Old 09-12-2019, 12:13 PM   #21
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I've sometimes wondered, how would you get 911 to find you if you were in a hotel room and couldn't speak? When I travel for work I often eat from my room so I can monitor my work at the same time.
I read where it is best to call from a landline and don't hang up, they can track from there. I would think if you call from your cell phone the same thing would apply. Just don't hang up!!!
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Been there done that. Go to a ENT and have them run a camera. I have a condition where my throat constricts due to stomachs acid. I take medication. And once or twice a year they do a procedure that opens my throat back up or opens the restriction. It took my 3rd case like you described before I went to a specialist.
The acid in the Pepsi broke the obstruction up and enabled you to clear it

More common than you think, I know 4 or 5 people with the same condition. Great advice.
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Dang man. I bet that was scary. Glad you're ok.
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In have an esophageal allergy that causes throat constriction. It sux. I choked on some steak 2 years ago and had to go to the ER to have the GI fish it out. I have a Flovent inhaler I have to use a couple times a week. My GI said they’re seeing more and more of these all Allergy cases in perfectly healthy people.
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I'm glad you thought to do that, could have been a really bad outcome otherwise.

My dad used to choke on food, and now that I've gotten older I do the same thing. I have choked about a hundred times, with about a dozen of them very serious. So far, I haven't required the Heimlich maneuver, but it's been very close. One of the worst times, I was eating rice, of all things. For me, it's almost always when I'm very hungry and don't chew my first bite or two of food quite good enough. I have had a procedure to stretch my throat twice, but it doesn't seem to do anything, or helps very little.

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OP glad you are OK and that was **** quick thinking on your part.

Correct me if I am wrong but when you choke on food and can't breathe, you have clogged your wind pipe...not your esophagus... My wife has the narrow esophagus but she can still breathe when food is lodged in it. She used to panic until i explained to her how it works and she stayed call allowing the painful food to pass down to the stomach (not the lungs) eventually. Which in theory is why the water wasn't working and probably was pushing the stuck food you ejected right back into the windpipe opening as it passed by through they esophagus.
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I would recommend you going to get an endoscopy done and seeing an ENT... it'll look at your throat and down past the esophagus and give you some ideas of your anatomy and the issues of what it looks like could happen.. I know they can do some light "stretching" and give some medication that could help you.. good luck and don't be afraid to call 9-1-1
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OP, glad you made it through that. I must have a small esophagus also, because I get choked easily. I have to really chew my food well, and it’s still touch and go sometimes.
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OP glad you are OK and that was **** quick thinking on your part.

Correct me if I am wrong but when you choke on food and can't breathe, you have clogged your wind pipe...not your esophagus... My wife has the narrow esophagus but she can still breathe when food is lodged in it. She used to panic until i explained to her how it works and she stayed call allowing the painful food to pass down to the stomach (not the lungs) eventually. Which in theory is why the water wasn't working and probably was pushing the stuck food you ejected right back into the windpipe opening as it passed by through they esophagus.
You can be right or wrong. Depends on where the food gets stuck. It can be before the epiglottis(flap that close off the trachea), at the epiglottis preventing it from opening, or past it but you could still breath....
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OP glad you are OK and that was **** quick thinking on your part.

Correct me if I am wrong but when you choke on food and can't breathe, you have clogged your wind pipe...not your esophagus... My wife has the narrow esophagus but she can still breathe when food is lodged in it. She used to panic until i explained to her how it works and she stayed call allowing the painful food to pass down to the stomach (not the lungs) eventually. Which in theory is why the water wasn't working and probably was pushing the stuck food you ejected right back into the windpipe opening as it passed by through they esophagus.
Windpipe clogged correct, once that was cleared I could breathe again but I knew I was still partially clogged somewhere, at that time I did not know windpipe or esophagus, I learned after it would be the esophagus. My thinking now with the water shutting off my breathing is that there was a bubble or phlegm around the obstruction in my esophagus just below the windpipe, but it was not air tight just somewhat restricted , when I drank a sip of water it filled the void and covered the windpipe and stop my breathing??? All I know for sure is that I was partially clogged but could breathe when I took a sip of Pepsi & within a couple of seconds my obstruction was gone. Blessing for your wife cause that stuff is scary!

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OP, glad you made it through that. I must have a small esophagus also, because I get choked easily. I have to really chew my food well, and it’s still touch and go sometimes.
I know man that is scary, I think I am only gonna eat oatmeal until we get this figured out! Be safe brother and chew that food, it helps it get a good mix with your saliva.
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I would recommend you going to get an endoscopy done and seeing an ENT... it'll look at your throat and down past the esophagus and give you some ideas of your anatomy and the issues of what it looks like could happen.. I know they can do some light "stretching" and give some medication that could help you.. good luck and don't be afraid to call 9-1-1
Thank you and lesson learned. Call 911!!!!
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That's impressive clear and cool thinking to save yourself. Great reminder and strategy list to all of us who may be eating alone at times.

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I'm glad you thought to do that, could have been a really bad outcome otherwise.

My dad used to choke on food, and now that I've gotten older I do the same thing. I have choked about a hundred times, with about a dozen of them very serious. So far, I haven't required the Heimlich maneuver, but it's been very close. One of the worst times, I was eating rice, of all things. For me, it's almost always when I'm very hungry and don't chew my first bite or two of food quite good enough. I have had a procedure to stretch my throat twice, but it doesn't seem to do anything, or helps very little.

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Scary stuff man and once that windpipe is shut off and you can breathe that is a terrible terrible time. I always just kinda wolf my food down, but since this happened I have been chewing the heck out of my food. I noticed the more I chew the more saliva I generate which in turn slicks the food up and travels a lot smoother. I have been taking a lot smaller bites also! Good luck and we just gotta be careful!
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I read where it is best to call from a landline and don't hang up, they can track from there. I would think if you call from your cell phone the same thing would apply. Just don't hang up!!!


Just wonder how they would triangulate which floor youíre on in a large hotel. I know if you call the front desk from your room they know where you are from their internal system, but does 911 know too??
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Just wonder how they would triangulate which floor youíre on in a large hotel. I know if you call the front desk from your room they know where you are from their internal system, but does 911 know too??
Good question, if I find out something I will let you know. Might ask front desk how that situation is handled, they should have an idea?
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Just asked my wife. She managed hotels for a handful of years before going to Expedia. She said 911 gets notified of room just from the call and the front desk is notified if any rooms calls an emery# so they can assist and know where to send ems
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Just asked my wife. She managed hotels for a handful of years before going to Expedia. She said 911 gets notified of room just from the call and the front desk is notified if any rooms calls an emery# so they can assist and know where to send ems
Thank you that is good to know!!
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Glad you are ok. Scary stuff there!
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Just asked my wife. She managed hotels for a handful of years before going to Expedia. She said 911 gets notified of room just from the call and the front desk is notified if any rooms calls an emery# so they can assist and know where to send ems
This would only be is you called 911 from the hotel phone in your room, right? What if you call using your cell phone? I am sure you would need to have the GPS turned on within your cell phone for the best location accuracy.
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