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Old 11-29-2021, 03:05 PM   #1
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As long as it’s Gulf of Mexico shrimp it doesn’t matter if you buy it from a bait shop or grocery store correct?
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Old 11-29-2021, 03:07 PM   #2
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Yep saw someone get a ticket the other day for using shrimp farmed somewhere Outta country
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Old 11-29-2021, 03:36 PM   #3
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for what use?

Bait?

Food?
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Old 11-29-2021, 03:49 PM   #4
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Food, yes. Most bait shrimp are brown shrimp, food shrimp you want white shrimp. I believe this is accurate, maybe a shrimper will chime in with more better info...
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Old 11-29-2021, 03:50 PM   #5
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I would not buy shrimp for consumption at a bait shop. If you are using for bait, then yes. Has to be from the gulf of mexico.
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Old 11-29-2021, 03:54 PM   #6
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I know where I buy seafood and bait in Matagorda his store is divided with food seafood on one side and bait on the other. He can't even ring up bait shrimp and food shrimp on the same ticket.
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Old 11-29-2021, 04:41 PM   #7
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once it goes into the Bait tank it is Bait and cannot be sold as food.

Fresh dead... it can be both bait or food. It comes out of the same tank on the boat.

But once it is bait it can never become food. But food can become bait.
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Old 11-29-2021, 05:21 PM   #8
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once it goes into the Bait tank it is Bait and cannot be sold as food.

Fresh dead... it can be both bait or food. It comes out of the same tank on the boat.

But once it is bait it can never become food. But food can become bait.
That's why I save them bug shrimp out of thr bait well till the end of the day...

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Old 11-29-2021, 05:52 PM   #9
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make sure the bait shop doesn't add Acetone to the water to freshen it up and make the shrimp lively. Yes they do!
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Old 11-29-2021, 08:54 PM   #10
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make sure the bait shop doesn't add Acetone to the water to freshen it up and make the shrimp lively. Yes they do!
Must be a Florida thing
I've never heard of that.
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Old 11-29-2021, 08:56 PM   #11
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That's why I save them bug shrimp out of thr bait well till the end of the day...

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If you've ever boiled up your left over bait shrimp you're safe from covid
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Old 11-29-2021, 09:07 PM   #12
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If you've ever boiled up your left over bait shrimp you're safe from covid
You might be a redneck!
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Old 11-29-2021, 09:13 PM   #13
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Old 11-29-2021, 09:16 PM   #14
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Buy it by the lb or by the pint, shrimp is shrimp. Lived on the coast all my life, grew up eating shrimp, step brother’s father n law owned a bunch of gulf shrimp boats. We ate brown and white shrimp. Certain times of the year there are more white shrimp, certain times more brown.

I won’t buy farm raised. Most of that is from over seas and not as good as gulf shrimp.


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Old 11-29-2021, 09:28 PM   #15
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Old 11-29-2021, 09:53 PM   #16
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Old 11-29-2021, 11:00 PM   #17
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make sure the bait shop doesn't add Acetone to the water to freshen it up and make the shrimp lively. Yes they do!
I have never seen that here. Not ever.
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Old 11-29-2021, 11:07 PM   #18
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I have never seen that here. Not ever.
Me either, pretty sure I could smell it, I hate that smell.
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Old 11-29-2021, 11:07 PM   #19
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I buy shrimp all the time from bait shop for shrimp soup.
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Old 11-29-2021, 11:21 PM   #20
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You can call them anything you like but shrimp are shrimp. Call 'em bait shrimp or table shrimp. It's all the same so long as they are fresh. Brownies and whites are both good. Most folks couldn't tell one from the other live in hand much less rolled in cracker meal and fried.

Now, I would not recommend buying 'fresh dead' at a bait camp to eat. I have seen bait camps clean out the dead loss out of their live tanks that died overnight and dump it in the fresh dead cooler many times. You do not want to eat those. They have been dead in warm water for hours. When they are catching really good shrimp our bait camps will often sell table shrimp and it is fine.

Wherever you buy your table shrimp look them over closely. It's not hard to tell if they are good and fresh or not. If they look iffy at all just pass. They should not smell bad. They should not be black or oozing nasty looking juice. They should not smell like bleach. They should be pretty and firm and smell fresh.
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Old 11-30-2021, 07:35 AM   #21
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Well.......... I’ll just stand back and observe
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Old 11-30-2021, 07:50 AM   #22
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the only thing i Remember is that if you are using shrimp for bait, it must be texas shrimp, and not frozen from the store ( most of that stuff is from overseas ) and can carry some type of disease to our local waters. according to TPWD. We always get reminders from the game wardens in Corpus Christi about this.
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Old 11-30-2021, 10:16 AM   #23
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the only thing i Remember is that if you are using shrimp for bait, it must be texas shrimp, and not frozen from the store ( most of that stuff is from overseas ) and can carry some type of disease to our local waters. according to TPWD. We always get reminders from the game wardens in Corpus Christi about this.
This is incorrect…..to a point.

They don’t have to beg ‘Texas’ shrimp, but need to not be imported.

Gulf caught shrimp would suffice. These can be bought frozen from the store and are appropriately labeled.
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Old 11-30-2021, 10:24 AM   #24
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the only thing i Remember is that if you are using shrimp for bait, it must be texas shrimp, and not frozen from the store ( most of that stuff is from overseas ) and can carry some type of disease to our local waters. according to TPWD. We always get reminders from the game wardens in Corpus Christi about this.
Safe to eat but unsafe for bait. ?????
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Old 11-30-2021, 10:42 AM   #25
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I won’t buy farm raised. Most of that is from over seas and not as good as gulf shrimp.
I have seen in person the farms overseas and immediately upon return told my wife we would never intentionally purchase or consume farm raised again. Our only exception is restaurants when we have no choice.
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Old 11-30-2021, 11:20 AM   #26
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As a follow up: I went to website and got this.
Why shouldn’t I use imported shrimp as bait?
If you use imported shrimp as bait, you could be introducing one of
several deadly viruses to native shrimp, crab and crayfish populations. Many of these viruses—like the white-spot syndrome virus—
can survive the freezing process and do not die when the imported
shrimp is packaged. Though not harmful to humans, if a virus is
introduced, native shrimp, crab and crayfish populations could quickly
die which would have devastating consequences for the entire ecosystem and the Gulf shrimp food industry.
What is imported shrimp?
Imported shrimp includes all shrimp species not native to the Gulf
of Mexico, like shrimp from other countries and non-Gulf states.
The most common imported shrimp species is the Pacific white shrimp which
is found in food stores.
Is it against the law?
Yes. Introducing imported or non-native shrimp to the aquatic
environment is illegal under Texas law, regardless of whether it is
alive or dead, whole or in pieces. How do I know if shrimp is native
to the Gulf of Mexico?
If you’re buying bait shrimp, ask if its Gulf shrimp. Common shrimp
species native to the Gulf of Mexico include pink shrimp, white
shrimp, brown shrimp and mantis shrimp or sea lice. You can also
check the label of frozen packaged shrimp for place of origin.
If shrimp is not from the Gulf of Mexico, then it is illegal to use it as bait.
Where can I learn more? www.tpwd.texas.gov/baitshrimp
or texasseagrant@gmail.com
Hope it can help someone out to avoid getting a ticket. My shrimp only work on hardheads. LOL.
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Old 11-30-2021, 01:31 PM   #27
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I saw they have already begun to catch some tiger prawns in the nets here on our Texas coast. First thing I thought was we about to have some **** good foot long shrimp to catch and eat on our coast in another 10 years or so. But obviously the invasive consequences outweigh that.
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Old 11-30-2021, 07:13 PM   #28
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Safe to eat but unsafe for bait. ?????
Yes.

It can introduce viruses into the water that can kill native shrimp but is not harmful to humans.

It is unsafe to Texas shrimp that may become infected.
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Old 11-30-2021, 07:52 PM   #29
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Old 11-30-2021, 08:22 PM   #30
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I saw they have already begun to catch some tiger prawns in the nets here on our Texas coast. First thing I thought was we about to have some **** good foot long shrimp to catch and eat on our coast in another 10 years or so. But obviously the invasive consequences outweigh that.
We caught some shrimp down in north landcut/seven mile cut area MANY years ago that bill. We joked that they had to be 1-2 count shrimp. They were enormous!
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Old 11-30-2021, 09:02 PM   #31
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We caught some shrimp down in north landcut/seven mile cut area MANY years ago that bill. We joked that they had to be 1-2 count shrimp. They were enormous!
Think it was back in the late 90’s when some farm raised shrimp got loose into the arroyo down south.

We usual see 1-5 individual tiger shrimp caught per year from Aransas/Corpus bays by local shrimpers. Last one I knew of was caught in Aransas bay this past September or October 2021.

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Old 11-30-2021, 09:09 PM   #32
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Eat wild browns and whites without worry.

Farm is last choice if starving.
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Old 11-30-2021, 09:23 PM   #33
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Old 11-30-2021, 09:25 PM   #34
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Ok I got to ask… what’s the deal with the not eating farm raised?? I know they aren’t going to be as good but is there a health concern??
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Ok I got to ask… what’s the deal with the not eating farm raised?? I know they aren’t going to be as good but is there a health concern??
I think the common belief, probably true or at least to some extent, is that being captive in the same tank of water makes it more prone to disease. They probably swim in the same water without it ever being cleaned with several continuous hatches of fish. It would be like looking at an unfiltered tropical fish tank.

It think most of the concern is when the product comes from Vietnam or China with probably very little, if any, health regulations. The same can likely be said about wild caught but area restricted and heavily polluted and contaminated waters.

I tried Swai Catfish from Vietnam before (frozen Walmart) and it was some of the cleanest and freshest tasting catfish I have ever tried. I started reading about it and it mostly comes from the lower Mekong delta and raw sewage and chemicals are dumped in the river for many miles above that area.

I have also read that American inspectors have cleared it as being safe but………
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Old 12-01-2021, 10:12 PM   #36
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Ok I got to ask… what’s the deal with the not eating farm raised?? I know they aren’t going to be as good but is there a health concern??
Farm raised is not necessarily bad. We have local shrimp farms that turn out a good, safe product. I'd be leary of imported shrimp.
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