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Old 11-20-2021, 05:39 PM   #1
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Default Ranchers/Cattlemen whats your favorite grass?

My brother and I bought some land next to some old family land we have thats about to be handed over to us. We are clearing mesquites and brush off and building fences.

What is the best grass in your experience to plant?

Plan on setting up a 4 pasture rotation system.

This will be in North Texas. I do weed spraying and fertilizing as a side job and am grass savvy on all the natives and introduced.

What we've been considering
Klein (I know its toxicity to horses and sheep)
B-dahl
Wilman
Giant Bermuda
Or maybe a mix of those.

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Old 11-20-2021, 05:46 PM   #2
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I'd sprig in whatever Bermuda grows well in your region and soil type. Not sure, but it seems like I've heard that giant Bermuda wasn't all that great.
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Old 11-20-2021, 06:25 PM   #3
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I'd sprig in whatever Bermuda grows well in your region and soil type. Not sure, but it seems like I've heard that giant Bermuda wasn't all that great.
Grama grass
https://counties.agrilife.org/upshur...ve-Grasses.pdf
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Old 11-20-2021, 07:12 PM   #4
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I like Alicia and Jiggs, I can post some pics of our Alicia pastures tomorrow, cattle do really well on it. Also it’s really hardy and grows quickly.
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Old 11-20-2021, 07:18 PM   #5
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How far north. Coastal is great but not a cold weather grass. The B-dahl grass my son-in-laws planted two years ago grows good but grasshoppers will not even eat it.
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Old 11-20-2021, 07:21 PM   #6
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Hard to answer without knowing your soil type. Kleingrass does great in clay or loamy soils, not as good in straight sand. Wilman does great in sand or loamy soils, but not near as good in clay.

Yep.

On our 130 place, we have multi soil. ****tiest piece ground loves Kleingrass and Bermuda. We started with Bermuda, but have since spent last 5 years removing it as it want's to grow everywhere and while it greens early and recovers quickly from rain...it's not good hay compared to any others. We now have good stand of Kleingrass , but doesn't cut the tonnage our Jiggs or Tifton does elswhere (more sandy soil).
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Old 11-20-2021, 07:24 PM   #7
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Tifton grass. Call your extension agent. Grow what grows there...
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Old 11-20-2021, 07:56 PM   #8
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Get with NRCS and seen what their improved pasture blend contains.
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Old 11-20-2021, 08:39 PM   #9
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Check with nrcs. They have a cost sharing for clearing, fencing, and planting. You might as well take advantage of the program before the government gives all the money to the illegals
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Old 11-20-2021, 09:04 PM   #10
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Depends on your rain fall. I don’t have an ounce of Bermuda left.

Some times it’s best to go back in time.

https://www.farmers.gov/sites/defaul...hiteForage.pdf

Right now I’m on a Chet sand bluestem kick.
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Old 11-20-2021, 09:07 PM   #11
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Old 11-20-2021, 09:43 PM   #12
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If you're at all interested in wildlife, stay away from anything exotic. Natives are the best, more drought tolerant and disease resistant and requires less maintenance as long as you manage it correctly and don't overgraze it (which most people do).
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Old 11-20-2021, 09:45 PM   #13
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call the extension agent
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Old 11-20-2021, 10:09 PM   #14
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Go with the official grass of Texas-Side Oat Gramma. Very drought tolerate and grows in most soils.
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Old 11-20-2021, 10:39 PM   #15
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Indiangrass
Big bluestem
Switchgrass
Eastern gamagrass
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Old 11-21-2021, 02:16 AM   #16
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Coastal would be good, any kind that you sprig. I would veer away from Jiggs, it needs water or it won't do well. Bluestem is a good option. When I put cows on a new pasture they eat the johnson grass first then the bluestem after that they will eat the coastal.
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Old 11-21-2021, 08:30 AM   #17
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Help keep the bluestem prairie going. Little blue or big bluestem.
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Old 11-21-2021, 08:53 AM   #18
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Big Bluestem. Scratch the surface with a disk and lay your seed out.
It took approximately two years to see any difference.
We had big Blue with seed heads over the top of an f350 4x4.
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Old 11-21-2021, 09:02 AM   #19
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I prefer to work with nature and plant what God put there. No inputs like weed spray and fertilizer keeps money in your pocket.

B-Dahl is hit and miss, some guys like it and some don’t. I’ve seen it take over fields. Diversity would be best, like natives so that all your eggs aren’t in one basket.
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Old 11-21-2021, 09:03 AM   #20
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Tifton 85 is what our cattle love.
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Old 11-21-2021, 09:07 AM   #21
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After reading all the posts you probably have some excellent ideas but from my experience on planting grass in south Texas you will find out that soil types change very quickly
Best thing you can do is spend a little time to see what your neighbors have. Grass seed can be very expensive if you have a good county agent he could recommend what is best for your area and climate
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Old 11-21-2021, 09:42 AM   #22
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Acapulco gold
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Old 11-21-2021, 10:15 AM   #23
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There is much more maintenance and yearly expense with costal. you have to spray and fertilize. (Over $700 a ton right now) You can run more cattle on fewer acres with it. My pastures are native and hay ground is B-Dahl. B-Dahl is a great compromise. Makes great hay with less fertilize and rain. It does take a little longer to get established, but it is very hardy once it is. You can graze it pretty heavy, and hay it. Just leave about 6 standing or you will get one cutting instead of 2 or 3. Grazing or cutting it to close really sets it back. This is one of my B-Dahl patches, and my son was about 5 tall at the time. Good luck.
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Old 11-21-2021, 10:53 AM   #24
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What type of cattle will you be running?
-Cows?
-Stockers?

What are your goals?
-Hay production?
- Graze year round?
-Beneficial to wildlife?

What are your labor/time goals?
-Good with high maintenance and expenses?
-Manage your grazing and let nature take over?
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Old 11-21-2021, 01:16 PM   #25
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Coastal would be good, any kind that you sprig. I would veer away from Jiggs, it needs water or it won't do well. Bluestem is a good option. When I put cows on a new pasture they eat the johnson grass first then the bluestem after that they will eat the coastal.
I have experienced the opposite with jigs.
I had better luck getting it started than tifton.
I like both grasses but jigs seems to do better in harder type soils.
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Old 11-21-2021, 06:27 PM   #26
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Tifton 85 Popular here in RGV
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