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Old 08-02-2022, 02:24 PM   #1
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Question How much is Made in the USA worth to you?

I wish we had a polling system, but just curious to the willingness to pay more for a US made product. Most of the trail cameras on the market are made cheaply in China - many from the same manufacturers. If you could buy a camera for $125 made in China or $155 made in the US, how many would opt for a US made product considering they could both be made to have the same quality / features.
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I would purchase the U.S. model
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US here !
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Old 08-02-2022, 02:32 PM   #4
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US here, I go out of my way to buy here but it’s getting pretty hard to do regardless of the price.
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Old 08-02-2022, 02:42 PM   #5
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I vote made in USA
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Old 08-02-2022, 02:51 PM   #6
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USA every time when there is an option
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Old 08-02-2022, 02:53 PM   #7
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Might not be popular but in today's economy, if it's the exact same quality at a 20% discount, I'm taking the discount. Same price, I will choose the US made product, but the world is so interconnected these days, made in the US might just mean assembled here.
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Problem is the made in USA ones are typically double. I can't afford made in USA on my salary.

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I support made is USA as much as I can. However, in business, the almighty dollar is king and as much as we've pushed these products, they gain little traction.
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Old 08-02-2022, 02:59 PM   #10
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Unfortunately, every semiconductor is built in China or Taiwan. The new tax bill the Senate is voting on is to fund "chip" plants among other things. It will be a couple of years before we will have any of these plants up and running.
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Old 08-02-2022, 03:09 PM   #11
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I absolutely would but do you really think one could be produced in the US with a 25% mark up?
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Old 08-02-2022, 03:09 PM   #12
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Old 08-02-2022, 03:12 PM   #13
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The new chip bill is just another DC boondoggle for friends and family of congress to get wealthy on.
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I just shopped replacement SxS tires.

I looked around on Amazon and other places as folks suggested. I saw all kinds of tires from all over. A lot said they just had bought knockoff Chinese tires from Amazon.

I ended up with a set of ITP’s that were made in the USA, but were +$250 more than the cheap knockoffs just like them. Bought them from one of their suggested online resellers.

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Old 08-02-2022, 03:15 PM   #15
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Which ever one is cheaper
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Old 08-02-2022, 03:17 PM   #16
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The new chip bill is just another DC boondoggle for friends and family of congress to get wealthy on.
Does it do anything to address the reason they arenít made here? Giving lots of money to some companies doesnít address regulations, taxes, labor etcÖ..
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Old 08-02-2022, 03:21 PM   #17
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unfortunately made in the USA doesn't mean quality its mostly junk
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Might not be popular but in today's economy, if it's the exact same quality at a 20% discount, I'm taking the discount. Same price, I will choose the US made product, but the world is so interconnected these days, made in the US might just mean assembled here.
Made in the USA and Assembled in the USA are not the same and have to be marked appropriately.
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I try to. The price of a US made item is usually worth the quality. Most stuff made in the US has a lifetime or long term warranty and I know they will last a long, long time.
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Might not be popular but in today's economy, if it's the exact same quality at a 20% discount, I'm taking the discount. Same price, I will choose the US made product, but the world is so interconnected these days, made in the US might just mean assembled here.
Boom! Why pay more for less?! The U S can make better products than china. If we wonít we get what we got. Itís all about pleasing the stock holders. Vicious circle.
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Unfortunately, every semiconductor is built in China or Taiwan. The new tax bill the Senate is voting on is to fund "chip" plants among other things. It will be a couple of years before we will have any of these plants up and running.
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Actually... there is one US company that made plans in the summer of 2021 to expand chip manufacturing in Dallas and open a new plant in Colorado by the end of 2022 - early 2023. Ever hear of Texas Instruments?
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Old 08-02-2022, 03:32 PM   #22
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We did it to ourselves. It started with Tricky D I C K Nixon opening up trade with China. In the years since we have made them able to afford all the battleships, planes, and armament that they have today. We have befriended them in every way possible and they want to destroy us and eventually will. I’m as bad as the rest of the US, but it’s almost impossible to stay away from Chinese made products.
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I would pay for US made if the prices were that close
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Actually... there is one US company that made plans in the summer of 2021 to expand chip manufacturing in Dallas and open a new plant in Colorado by the end of 2022 - early 2023. Ever hear of Texas Instruments?
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Old 08-02-2022, 03:45 PM   #25
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If I knew it was made in the USA and it were the same quality I probably would. However, I do not look to see where it was manufactured very often.
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I'd pay 20% more in your example and price range if it were truly American made. Probably wouldn't pay 20% more for something that costs a whole lot more, like something in the thousands of dollars range.
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Old 08-02-2022, 04:06 PM   #27
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As a small manufacturer I pride myself on my product being made in the US
Except for a few of the small parts it's all made right here in North Texas actually.

The suppliers I depend on for the plastic bolt knob and flag clip are US companies also, but I wouldn't be surprised if they source them from outside the country.

I discovered that while it's cheaper to have a few parts made overseas it wasn't cost effective when you consider shipping and delays etc. (it might make more sense for orders bigger than the 10K at a time I was ordering)

Some years back when a large corporation was looking buy me out they had a test run of my parts made in China and the quality was crap.
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We did it to ourselves. It started with Tricky D I C K Nixon opening up trade with China. In the years since we have made them able to afford all the battleships, planes, and armament that they have today. We have befriended them in every way possible and they want to destroy us and eventually will. Iím as bad as the rest of the US, but itís almost impossible to stay away from Chinese made products.
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Made in the USA and Assembled in the USA are not the same and have to be marked appropriately.
Not so fast at least with knives! They'll put a slip of paper in a large box containing hundreds of small boxed knives. Also know of makers getting folders with everything done but no handles (which they also sell) so they can claim USA made. Then there's also a city in China named USA so......LOL!!
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"Then there's also a city in China named USA so......LOL!!"

NO WAY!!! That's dirty.
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Old 08-02-2022, 04:24 PM   #31
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Unions of today have made it hard for America to be competitive. I am not referring to the Kennedy era unions as they saved America but today's unions.

The best hunting/fishing shirts around are made in Viet Nam. Who would have thunk it.

Don't take my head off for writing this as I am a life member of the Teamsters.
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Old 08-02-2022, 04:31 PM   #32
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Not so fast at least with knives! They'll put a slip of paper in a large box containing hundreds of small boxed knives. Also know of makers getting folders with everything done but no handles (which they also sell) so they can claim USA made. Then there's also a city in China named USA so......LOL!!
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Unions of today have made it hard for America to be competitive. I am not referring to the Kennedy era unions as they saved America but today's unions.

The best hunting/fishing shirts around are made in Viet Nam. Who would have thunk it.

Don't take my head off for writing this as I am a life member of the Teamsters.
Thinking like this by Teamster members is what caused the Teamsters to be a shell of what it once was

Unions did not kill off American products. Greed by the manufacturer knowing they could get Americans to buy krappy products made by slave labor did the trick.
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Aren't these China built products being sold by American companies? The almighty dollar drives them and if they can sell a cheaper made China product, they will and do. Buying USA made is great but in the real world I'm afraid those products will continue to dwindle.
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Thinking like this by Teamster members is what caused the Teamsters to be a shell of what it once was
Well Teamsters being mobbed up back in the 70's and corrupt as all get out didn't help them much. A very close friend of mine worked in a local Teamsters office and the things that local did were so corrupt.
One instance that always stood out to me was when Yellow Freight had this driver that had problems coming to work and was caught drunk on the job and the dang stewards fought that bum to keep his job and strong armed Yellow Freight in the process. This was 1984 or 85 if memory serves.
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I know a lot of folks will beat the USA drum but in reality it's who has a better deal.
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What if it's made in USA by union labor? Hmmm

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I would support a company here if I know they answer phones with someone who speaks English.

But either way this all has to do with politics and stock market these days.

Need to just get back to the basics somehow.
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Thinking like this by Teamster members is what caused the Teamsters to be a shell of what it once was

Unions did not kill off American products. Greed by the manufacturer knowing they could get Americans to buy krappy products made by slave labor did the trick.
If the manufacturer can get the same quality of product overseas for less $$, why wouldn't they? Especially if they can sell the same amount or more. That is their purpose, to make profit. It is also the UNION's job as well. To increase pay/benefits for their members. They ended up pricing themselves out of jobs.

Its the same thing that will happen if/when minimum wage is raised. That $8.00/hr. burger flipper will now get $15.00/hr. only he won't get any hours because the fast food joint bought a new fangled robotic burger flipper. It costs $12/hr. to operate after you factor in cost, maintenance, etc... and it does a much better, more consistent job while not needing benefits, time off, etc... Now that kid will be out of a job and complain that the fast food joint is greedy for not wanting more expensive labor.

And yes, quality of product is a concern whether being made overseas or stateside. Are there crappy products made overseas, yes. But there are some fantastic products made overseas as well. Many of the products that get touted as fantastic, great quality, etc... are made in China. It is the exact same here in the US. That is all about the company's QC standards, and is the same for ALL manufacturing whether here in the states or overseas.
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They just paid the CEO of Moderna almost 1billion for his exit package. We are in such a downward spiral as a country ill buy the cheaper product. We are 30 trillion in debt with a joke of a government.
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Thinking like this by Teamster members is what caused the Teamsters to be a shell of what it once was

Unions did not kill off American products. Greed by the manufacturer knowing they could get Americans to buy krappy products made by slave labor did the trick.
This is an awesome response……..hahahaha


Choose to buy cheap ‘crappy’ products or supposed more expensive Made in USA. Capitalism, freed9m and personal liberty are grand!

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I wish we had a polling system, but just curious to the willingness to pay more for a US made product. Most of the trail cameras on the market are made cheaply in China - many from the same manufacturers. If you could buy a camera for $125 made in China or $155 made in the US, how many would opt for a US made product considering they could both be made to have the same quality / features.
I believe Reconyx cameras are made in the USA. The starting price for them is $399. I donít think there are very many members on here that have made the choice to spend that much for made in the USA.
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I wish we had a polling system, but just curious to the willingness to pay more for a US made product. Most of the trail cameras on the market are made cheaply in China - many from the same manufacturers. If you could buy a camera for $125 made in China or $155 made in the US, how many would opt for a US made product considering they could both be made to have the same quality / features.
OP, in your example, I would pull the trigger on the US made in a heart best.
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I believe Reconyx cameras are made in the USA. The starting price for them is $399. I don’t think there are very many members on here that have made the choice to spend that much for made in the USA.
This is an example where I would probably not go USA made based on the comparative quality to price and limited options.
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Made in USA by undocumented labor force?

I do pay more for some thing that I know are made in USA but its hard to tell nowadays.
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I have said for a long time that it all started when Walmart went over seas over 30 years ago. It was like putting a Frog in a boiling pot of water. They used to have "Made in the USA" banners in their stores in the 80`s, but they sold us out and people just kept on shopping there while smaller grocers, mom and pop stores and other long time profitable retailers closed shop and laid off employees. Companies followed behind them to China just to compete or go out of business. Everyone liked cheap consumer goods until it was too late and there was no going back.
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Problem is US companies are measured on profits. Cheaper foreign product can equal larger profit margins. Therefore, letís buy it overseas
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As said above, how many are made in the USA or just assembled. Plus, add in all the ďboycottsĒ of USA manufactures/companies that are on the other side, how do you figure out what to buy?


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Made in USA, no doubt
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