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Old 06-16-2022, 06:13 PM   #1
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I have a customer that her husband is a ranch foreman on a 45,000 acre ranch close to Marfa. He has invited me there later this year for a elk hunt. He basically just told me to let him know when I want to come. That being said, I'm planning on a rifle hunt, but I would like to hunt during the rut so I can hear a lot of bugling. What would be a good week to head out there and hunt? Thanks
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Old 06-16-2022, 06:22 PM   #2
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Don't have a clue. But that's awesome, congrats and good luck.
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Old 06-16-2022, 06:32 PM   #3
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First or second week of October.
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Old 06-16-2022, 06:48 PM   #4
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Don’t know in Texas, but good luck !
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Old 06-16-2022, 06:49 PM   #5
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Old 06-16-2022, 06:54 PM   #6
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They are bugling in September, same as everywhere else.

West Texas has some big elk….they don’t get near the attention as they do in other states and it’s one of the best kept secrets. I know guys who have killed 390” bulls around Alpine
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Old 06-16-2022, 06:54 PM   #7
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Last week of September it’s usually starting
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Old 06-16-2022, 07:02 PM   #8
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Old 06-16-2022, 07:04 PM   #9
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I'd be bringing some over the top gifts with me as a thank you to try to get keep this arrangement rolling if I were in your shoes. That's a heck of a deal.
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Old 06-16-2022, 07:04 PM   #10
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Mid September into October. Good luck!
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Old 06-16-2022, 07:19 PM   #11
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Old 06-16-2022, 07:24 PM   #12
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Old 06-16-2022, 07:31 PM   #13
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I'd be bringing some over the top gifts with me as a thank you to try to get keep this arrangement rolling if I were in your shoes. That's a heck of a deal.
The year before last during the big freeze, I drove down and repaired her furnace so she could keep warm.

But I will definitely plan on showing my sincere appreciation
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Old 06-16-2022, 07:44 PM   #14
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You won the lottery. Good luck sir and look forward to the future hunting thread.
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Old 06-16-2022, 07:45 PM   #15
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Hi, my name is Grant and you are in luck because i am looking for a friend. Want to be friends?
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Old 06-16-2022, 08:20 PM   #16
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They are bugling in September, same as everywhere else.

West Texas has some big elkÖ.they donít get near the attention as they do in other states and itís one of the best kept secrets. I know guys who have killed 390Ē bulls around Alpine




They have some bigger than that. Ask me how I know. 429Ē


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Old 06-16-2022, 09:31 PM   #17
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I have shot 3 nice ones in Wtx over the years. Avatar is one. I will tell you that on the big ranches with low pressure if you can bugle you will get a half dozen bulls talking pretty quick all through October. It is fun...good luck
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Old 06-16-2022, 10:46 PM   #18
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They are bugling in September, same as everywhere else.

West Texas has some big elkÖ.they donít get near the attention as they do in other states and itís one of the best kept secrets. I know guys who have killed 390Ē bulls around Alpine

Partly because itís very expensive $$ to hunt them in west texas if you can find a place to do it
I looked into taking a customer a couple years ago, my budget wasnít even close.
Itís on my bucket list though


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Old 06-16-2022, 10:57 PM   #19
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Partly because itís very expensive $$ to hunt them in west texas if you can find a place to do it
I looked into taking a customer a couple years ago, my budget wasnít even close.
Itís on my bucket list though


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It can be more expensive but when you factor in the cost of a September rut rifle hunt in New Mexico you are getting about the same deal for probably a bigger bull.

Another reason for lack of pressure is that B&C does not recognize Texas elk
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Old 06-17-2022, 12:08 AM   #20
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People acting like this is tinder! LOL
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Old 06-17-2022, 09:41 AM   #21
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Doesn't B&C recognize Texas elk that are not high fence? I believe they do score them if not a high fence take.
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Old 06-17-2022, 10:08 AM   #22
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Doesn't B&C recognize Texas elk that are not high fence? I believe they do score them if not a high fence take.
Unless it changed just recently they do not recognize Texas elk.
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Old 06-17-2022, 10:18 AM   #23
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My buddy was out there the 3rd week of september last year and killed one that went 379. The other guy with him killed one that was close to that. He said there were bugling then
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Old 06-17-2022, 11:13 AM   #24
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I am going to West Texas to hunt elk first week of October. That is the week the guy that owns the ranch recommended.
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Old 06-17-2022, 12:02 PM   #25
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Doesn't B&C recognize Texas elk that are not high fence? I believe they do score them if not a high fence take.
No they don't. Elk or not a game animal in Texas therefore no B&C.
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Old 06-21-2022, 01:10 PM   #26
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I was given the opportunity to go hunt a friend's place last year outside of Alpine the last week of September. By far the most incredible archery hunt I've ever been on. My friend had shot a 360"s bull the week before and his brother had killed a 370" a couple days before that, all with archery gear coming in bugling. According to my friend they had slowed down by the time I made it there but we called in a 320" bull to 6 steps the first morning but was on the other side of a cedar tree.

The bull I ended up killing we called into 12 yards and it was bugling it's head off. I was drawn for almost two minutes and when I went to make a move it spooked but cow called and stopped it at 22 yards and I put an arrow thru the boiler room and he only made it about 30-40 yards. He was busted up but still scored 339" and change. Would've been a 350"+ bull intact. Had one of his eyes gouged from fighting and scars all over his face and neck.

All this to say that in that area, just outside of Alpine, they always seemed to do the best mid September to the first of October. They had killed 3 bulls over 400" and 7-8 that were 350"+ in 5-6 years.

It definitely got me hooked and I'm jealous of that opportunity.
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Old 06-21-2022, 01:16 PM   #27
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Doesn't B&C recognize Texas elk that are not high fence? I believe they do score them if not a high fence take.
When those big boys come north across the state line they qualify. Some monsters down there.
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Old 06-21-2022, 01:32 PM   #28
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Humm, they recognize Wyoming bison and they are wildlife or livestock in Wyoming, not game animals.

Anyway, that is a shame if true.
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Old 06-21-2022, 02:18 PM   #29
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I made some calls to book a Texas elk hunt and the going rate was >$15K. Colorado was much cheaper. Now, if I had a friend who owned a 45K acre ranch, that would be cool!
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Old 06-21-2022, 03:04 PM   #30
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Congrats on the opportunity. Good luck this fall.
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Old 06-21-2022, 06:00 PM   #31
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No help on dates Carey but good luck hope you kill a monster.
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Old 06-21-2022, 06:21 PM   #32
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I would guess October.


I would ask the guy who invited you.
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Old 06-21-2022, 06:37 PM   #33
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I would guess October.


I would ask the guy who invited you.
It is a cattle ranch, and they don't hunt it.
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Old 06-21-2022, 07:47 PM   #34
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Very fortunate to receive the offer to hunt. Best of luck to you !
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Old 06-21-2022, 07:58 PM   #35
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I would call the ranch foreman back and ask him. They may not rut the same time that elk farther north rut. I would bet that they will rut at the same time, that the elk do, where ever those were brought in from originally. Not knowing where the elk came from, that started that heard, it's hard to say, when they would rut.

I think your best bet, is just to ask someone who lives or works out there, who pay attention to the elk out there.

Should be fun, good luck.
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Old 06-21-2022, 08:07 PM   #36
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It is a cattle ranch, and they don't hunt it.


I figured they would a least know when they hear bugles. Good luck to ya. Sounds like a dream hunt.
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Old 06-21-2022, 08:07 PM   #37
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Free range Texas elk is one of my dreams, good luck
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Old 06-21-2022, 08:56 PM   #38
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I would assume around the same time as Colorado. We always did best around mid September. Good Luck and have fun!
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Old 06-21-2022, 09:13 PM   #39
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Congrats Carey, couldn't happen to a nicer fella....
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Old 06-21-2022, 09:31 PM   #40
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Pretty cool opportunity here! Good luck
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Old 06-21-2022, 10:24 PM   #41
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I know where I am at they bugle a lot in late September early October. Good luck
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Old 06-21-2022, 10:50 PM   #42
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They are actually cheap compared to like size in the upper end bulls across the west.

Now the average type bulls they are a little high.
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Old 06-22-2022, 10:41 AM   #43
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Mid to late Sept into Oct depending on the moon and temps with cloud cover.
Hot and sunny up here they rut a little later; cloudy , cool fall and they bugle early Sept.

I think the rut is about the same but activity- bugling is what varies with temps and whether or not is is cool and cloudy. Shorter days lead into the rut, cloudy days help that.

Good luck sir, hope you get a big bull !

And yep, B&C responded they do not recognize Texas elk. Funny because in Wyoming bison are not game but are regulated take wildlife.
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Old 06-22-2022, 02:05 PM   #44
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And yep, B&C responded they do not recognize Texas elk. Funny because in Wyoming bison are not game but are regulated take wildlife.

Bison were originally native to Wyoming in large numbers where Elk were not native to the vast majority of Texas...you had a few migratory herds that would cross the panhandle and a few ( probably Merriams Elk) that were native to a few of the sky island habitats like the Chisos and Davis Mountain range. This is per RMEF.

When I was a kid Elk were listed as a Game animal with a season but somewhere in the late 90's IIRC they de-listed them.


From what I have been able to find, B&C will only recognize Bison taken from certain areas such as the Henry Mountains or Yellowstone area... Anything else and they are not eligible for entry even if taken under free range conditions and DNA certified as 100% pure. The Elk are kind of the same thing......they will not accept free range elk introduced in Texas but will accept introduced Elk from other areas that they didn't originally exist like the White Mountains in Arizona.
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Bison were originally native to Wyoming in large numbers where Elk were not native to the vast majority of Texas...you had a few migratory herds that would cross the panhandle and a few ( probably Merriams Elk) that were native to a few of the sky island habitats like the Chisos and Davis Mountain range. This is per RMEF.

When I was a kid Elk were listed as a Game animal with a season but somewhere in the late 90's IIRC they de-listed them.


From what I have been able to find, B&C will only recognize Bison taken from certain areas such as the Henry Mountains or Yellowstone area... Anything else and they are not eligible for entry even if taken under free range conditions and DNA certified as 100% pure. The Elk are kind of the same thing......they will not accept free range elk introduced in Texas but will accept introduced Elk from other areas that they didn't originally exist like the White Mountains in Arizona.
Texas their number one disqualification is no formal season. The historic home range argument is one random biologist agruing against the Merriam's elk as a separate sub-species.

They have to be real careful on dna or there are alot of sheep slams that will end up with Two Dalls instead of Dall and fannin as the stone
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Old 06-22-2022, 03:06 PM   #46
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Texas their number one disqualification is no formal season. The historic home range argument is one random biologist agruing against the Merriam's elk as a separate sub-species.

They have to be real careful on dna or there are alot of sheep slams that will end up with Two Dalls instead of Dall and fannin as the stone

Even when they had a season they were still ineligible for entry.


IMO it doesent make a whole lot of sense to forbide an Elk from Texas against entry in B&C.



its just as wild an elk as elk taken in other areas of the country.
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Old 06-22-2022, 03:36 PM   #47
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Even when they had a season they were still ineligible for entry.


IMO it doesent make a whole lot of sense to forbide an Elk from Texas against entry in B&C.



its just as wild an elk as elk taken in other areas of the country.

We are also talking about a foundation that post pictures of hunters with animals for a fee, why chastising pay to play, and land owner rights all while claiming to be fair chase and about conservation. Itís either about the animal or the hunter not both. If you are going to create a scoring system to highlight conversion success in regards to age, genetics and nutrition then stick to it and just put the animal in the books. Thatís my thoughts atleast. Just another corporation trying to dictate how we should hunt
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Old 06-22-2022, 03:42 PM   #48
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Yep. I guess I'm not anti-B&C, but I certainly don't care at all what they think about anything. I don't agree with their thoughts on much of anything. The whole net score deal is nuts too. Just measure the total inches and give the critter credit for growing all of them.

I don't know that B&C is doing any harm. They just aren't doing it right.
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Old 06-22-2022, 03:54 PM   #49
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One day I’ll spring for a high fence hunt and pop one. I think they are averaging about $7,000.00 for 300”. I thought about taking my son to the High Adventure Ranch in Missouri but it’s a little too far for me.

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Old 06-22-2022, 04:01 PM   #50
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We were there last year last week of September and first week of October
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