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Old 10-17-2020, 09:25 PM   #1
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I currently have a samick sage pulling around 45lbs but I want to upgrade would still like to stay with a recurve and is takedown really a huge deal sorry I know thereís a lot of variables but any input would be greatly appreciated
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Old 10-17-2020, 10:17 PM   #2
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There are several great bowyers right here in TX! Sarrels Archery, Primal Tech Bows, Bob Lee Bows, just to name a few. You couldnít go wrong with any of the above. My advice would be to make a few road trips to some bowyers shops, try some recurved out, and pick the one you like the best.

As far as one piece vs takedown, itís all a matter of personal preference.

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Old 10-18-2020, 06:23 AM   #3
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Thanks for the reply I was looking around online and I saw the Hoyt satori and man that thing looks pretty slick and it has a ton of adjustability but it gets me thinking that the more you add to a bow the more that could go wrong
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Old 10-18-2020, 06:28 AM   #4
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I have a few takedowns and never take them down. The weight is deciding factor for me. Takedowns are heavier and I like heavier. Any of Bisch’s suggestions are excellent but I’m partial to Bob Lee for recurves.
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Old 10-18-2020, 09:29 AM   #5
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I like the take downs due to the physical bow weight.

All of Bisch’s suggestions are good.

Palmer and Black Widows are also great bows.

You can’t go wrong with a Hoyt satori either. I would not be afraid of the adjustments. The rest is what I would worry about but I have hunted with rests for yrs without a problem.
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Old 10-18-2020, 09:48 AM   #6
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You know the turn off with the palmers and the black widows are the price honestly I’m hard on equipment
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Old 10-18-2020, 10:15 AM   #7
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You know the turn off with the palmers and the black widows are the price honestly Iím hard on equipment
Most custom bows will come close to 1K.

You can get a Palmer Classic for $750.00

A Widow for $1075.00.

I own about 10 different custom bow brands and several of the same brand.

Iím very hard on equipment. The only one I damaged beyond scratching and needs refinishing is a Bob Sarrels that did not survive a 4 wheeler crash.

If you keep an eye out for used you can cut the price of a great bow in half.
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Old 10-18-2020, 12:06 PM   #8
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After doing some research I’m leaning towards the satori simply because of the riser design being that it takes ilf limbs there’s a ton of options out there and it’s simply cheaper.
With all that being said I’m not knocking the custom bows they are truly works of art and one day when I become good enough I will own a Palmer but for now I feel like the satori would be a good fit for me
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Old 10-18-2020, 01:06 PM   #9
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After doing some research Iím leaning towards the satori simply because of the riser design being that it takes ilf limbs thereís a ton of options out there and itís simply cheaper.
With all that being said Iím not knocking the custom bows they are truly works of art and one day when I become good enough I will own a Palmer but for now I feel like the satori would be a good fit for me
From what Iíve heard the Satori is a great bow. With the limb options I believe it is as good or better than any custom bow.
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Old 10-18-2020, 02:09 PM   #10
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What Bisch said. I'm sure the Satori is a nice bow if that's what you own. Personally I just don't like its looks.
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Old 10-18-2020, 03:18 PM   #11
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Life is too short to hunt with an ugly bow.
But yes, they have a good reputation.

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Old 10-19-2020, 04:27 AM   #12
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I had a Satori just long enough to put a dozen arrows down range and then box it back up and sell it. I didn't like the balance of the bow. Expect to use stabilizers to balance the bow The last thing that I want on a trad bow is a stabilizer. If you do decide to go with the Satori, you will have three choices of riser lengths. If memory serves correctly, 16",19", and 21". Watching the used market, I get the idea that the 21" is the least favored of the three. I've seen several guys looking to trade the 21 for a 19, but never the other way around. Keep in mind that many of the ILF limbs are weighed using a 25" riser. Mounting them on any riser shorter than 25" increases the weight. For example, I purchased a set of 38 pound carbon limbs that scale in at 47 on a 19" riser. I was hoping for 44 based on the rule of thumb that says add a pound for every inch that the riser is shorter. This particular set of limbs gained a pound and half for every inch shorter.

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Old 10-19-2020, 05:39 PM   #13
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Aron Snyder just did an interview with Cody Greenwood (TradLab) on Kifarucast reviewing traditional bows (custom and ILF). It's a great listen for anyone in the market for a new bow.
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Old 10-21-2020, 10:49 AM   #14
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I have numerous bows , all sage advice above. I buy mine used usually with the exception of a couple of habus back in the day. I am partial to the sa line of widows. They last forever and are very tough bows. My boys both shoot them that i bought used and replacement or spare limbs are fairly easy to find. good luck
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Old 10-21-2020, 07:04 PM   #15
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Thank you for the podcast link that has really opened up my eyes to the tune ability of an ilf bow until I get to the point where I know exactly what I want in a trad bow I think that’s the direction I’m gonna head
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Old 10-22-2020, 10:48 AM   #16
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Thank you for the podcast link that has really opened up my eyes to the tune ability of an ilf bow until I get to the point where I know exactly what I want in a trad bow I think thatís the direction Iím gonna head
Or don't worry about tuning the bow other then brace and nock height, go out shoot a ton and tune yourself, not the bow!
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Old 10-22-2020, 05:01 PM   #17
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True but I value my time and energy plus I don’t know what I like yet so having a platform where I can change the grips, tiller, poundage with a change of limbs is a huge help instead of buying a 1000 dollar bow only to realize that it’s not what I want
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Old 10-22-2020, 05:58 PM   #18
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Buy the Satori. Dont frill yourself. Dont look back. Go kill and get bloody. Be happy.

https://www.lancasterarchery.com/hoy...rve-riser.html
$450 for a riser only...youre about half way there. I commend your desire for options and changeability. Limbs for this setup and limbs for that setup and arrows for this setup and arrows for that setup, not to mention broadheads for this and that setup...adds up pretty quick... well past $1000. Then your also playing hokey pokey with your sights for different setups on the same riser.

Otherwise...Buy Texan. Be happy.

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Old 10-23-2020, 12:08 PM   #19
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True but I value my time and energy plus I donít know what I like yet so having a platform where I can change the grips, tiller, poundage with a change of limbs is a huge help instead of buying a 1000 dollar bow only to realize that itís not what I want
I value my time and energy as well, nor did I recommend a $1000 bow. I believe we have different views on the process is all. That Satori should be a good pick for you. Enjoy what you shoot, have fun customizing your trad bow, remember... it's all about fun!
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Old 10-23-2020, 01:00 PM   #20
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I value my time and energy as well, nor did I recommend a $1000 bow. I believe we have different views on the process is all. That Satori should be a good pick for you. Enjoy what you shoot, have fun customizing your trad bow, remember... it's all about fun!
Well, the large gut piles are nice too.

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Old 10-23-2020, 05:01 PM   #21
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Well, the large gut piles are nice too.

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Well yea, that too
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Old 10-23-2020, 09:54 PM   #22
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Well since I have some of yalls attention have any of y’all tried the woodsman broadheads from 3 rivers
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Old 10-24-2020, 05:20 AM   #23
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Well since I have some of yalls attention have any of yíall tried the woodsman broadheads from 3 rivers
I have. The Wiodsman Elites.
The come dull as a butter knife and I bent one on a spine and one on a shoulder blade. They don't hold an edge and aren't very good for what they cost.

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Old 10-24-2020, 06:46 AM   #24
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Thanks for the heads up I’ve been shooting zwikey glue ons but want to go carbon and looking for a good screw in option
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Old 10-24-2020, 04:02 PM   #25
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My Satori is dusty, too heavy to hunt with.
My Bob Lee is still being set up, awaiting arrows.
My Blacktail Legacy is my favorite and gets looks from others.
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