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Old 11-14-2017, 09:56 PM   #1
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On the timed feeders is there any reason to use a trough feeder VS one like the All Seasons Pro Evo timed? I like the idea of being weather protected in the tubes vs. the trough if its wet but didnt know if anybody had seen a benefit to the trough. The timed Pro Evo seems really well priced also compared to other timed feeders
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I have one awsome!!
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The only thing i know is that when protein gets wet it becomes a hard nasty mess. That for me is why i do not use a trough feeder
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When I first purchased my 1500lb lamco trough feeder the first couple months I hated it. Of course it rained every other day and the deer were not very use to it, so I had to clean it out very often. I've had it for 4 years now and have not cleaned it out since and love it. Deer prefer the trough over the tubes no doubt.
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I'd choose the All Seasons over any trough feeder every time if I were going to go with a spinner-type distribution system. All Seasons people are great to deal with also.
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I have a 800# Lamco trough feeder that Iím happy with. When I first set it up I put 100 pounds of protein in the troughs. It rained two days later and made a pretty big mess. Havenít had any issues sense. Weíve been feeding free choice protein for 4 years. It took then about a month to get comfortable eating from the new feeder. Theyíre going through 8 pounds a day now and I could probably double that if I wanted to.
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I have some of the Lamcos with rain sensors. I never have any issues.
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I like the timed all seasons. Have been very pleased with this feeder.
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Mine is the 900#
Stand and fill for me, if your about 6'+, keeps feed pretty dry and don't loose much to coons or turkey.

Next choice would prob be the krivo with the hammer. But I'm trying to stay with stand and fill because I'm usually filling by myself.

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Old 11-15-2017, 10:59 PM   #10
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Mine is the 900#
Stand and fill for me, if your about 6'+, keeps feed pretty dry and don't loose much to coons or turkey.

Next choice would prob be the krivo with the hammer. But I'm trying to stay with stand and fill because I'm usually filling by myself.


How often do you have to fill those water totes?


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What I've seen, go with trough every time. No tubes.
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All season tubes, no trough for me. Curious to hear from others why they prefer the trough..
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I haven't tried the tubes but I like the trough Lamcos I have. After they started hitting they keep it cleaned out way before it would get wet.

I could see the tubes being better where you have a lot of turkey.

I do think the open troughs probably are a little more appealing to bucks eating out them but once they are hooked I don't think it would matter either way.
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I like the troughs because of the space... A lot of deer can get eat at one time.

I have not had to clean mine out due to it getting wet, the deer clean it up for me..
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Subscribed. Really interested in what guys use who have a lot of aoudad. Those thin All Seasons wouldn’t stand a chance unfortunately.
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Old 11-16-2017, 11:50 AM   #16
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Subscribed. Really interested in what guys use who have a lot of aoudad. Those thin All Seasons wouldnít stand a chance unfortunately.
Buddy of mine used the timed Krivoman, and it was specifically for the Aoudad. He has a video on here somewhere hunting them over it and the ram is head butting it. It held up well.
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Buddy of mine used the timed Krivoman, and it was specifically for the Aoudad. He has a video on here somewhere hunting them over it and the ram is head butting it. It held up well.
If it's the video where the ram is headbutting the spout and then he kills it- one of my favorite aoudad videos. I have been assuming they could easily knock off the silver timer box on the down spout.
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Old 11-16-2017, 12:09 PM   #18
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What about the stand and fill, timed protein feeder all season has?
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The one I posted above is a stand and fill if your tall enough. The newer all seasons that have the four sides shoots are good but they are really too low and turkeys/coins can clean them out. You can place them on concrete blocks to raise them.
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2 of them are for the troughs one is the one I haul water in. The two lasts me about 5-6 weeks depending on the weather.
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2 of them are for the troughs one is the one I haul water in. The two lasts me about 5-6 weeks depending on the weather.
Thanks. We have some to put out. Do you think it makes a difference in activity?

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If it's the video where the ram is headbutting the spout and then he kills it- one of my favorite aoudad videos. I have been assuming they could easily knock off the silver timer box on the down spout.
Thats the one, it survived somehow haha.



The HB trough ones i have seen used in South Tx work really well once the deer get used to it. They never leave enough in the tray for moisture to be an issue and any that does get rained on the coons will usually clean it up free of charge.
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Thanks guys trough is an option but this is the all seasons Iím talking about. During off season I will also have a free choice feeder going in the same spot but this is just so I can keep it going through the season. In the off season this would give me 4k lbs of feed per spot to cut refill trips. My free choice also converts to corn so I could have 1 ton of corn and 1 ton of protein capacity during the season.
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Old 11-20-2017, 09:32 AM   #24
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^^^can't go wrong with that one^^^
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I have a 1000# crossfire - I also have 6 of the above free choice feeders that are awesome. Never had a problem. I picked up the trough feeder to put in my blackbuck/oryx pasture so that they wouldnt be able to clean it out in a matter of days. It gives them a little twice a day and lasts a good while.
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Enlighten me.....i am ignorant to the terminology.

What are examples of or what is the difference between "free choice" and "through"
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Thanks guys trough is an option but this is the all seasons Iím talking about. During off season I will also have a free choice feeder going in the same spot but this is just so I can keep it going through the season. In the off season this would give me 4k lbs of feed per spot to cut refill trips. My free choice also converts to corn so I could have 1 ton of corn and 1 ton of protein capacity during the season.
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We ended up deciding to get (2) timed 3000lb feeders. Each feeder has two hoppers hooked up with an eliminator plate to control how much feed is thrown-- 2250lb capacity for protein and 750lb capacity for corn. That's a gray 50gallon drum on the front of the trailer for reference. They are Outback Wildlife Feeders.


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We ended up deciding to get (2) timed 3000lb feeders. Each feeder has two hoppers hooked up with an eliminator plate to control how much feed is thrown-- 2250lb capacity for protein and 750lb capacity for corn. That's a gray 50gallon drum on the front of the trailer for reference. They are Outback Wildlife Feeders.



You spent some $$$ on those Outbacks. Very nice feeders.
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We ended up deciding to get (2) timed 3000lb feeders. Each feeder has two hoppers hooked up with an eliminator plate to control how much feed is thrown-- 2250lb capacity for protein and 750lb capacity for corn. That's a gray 50gallon drum on the front of the trailer for reference. They are Outback Wildlife Feeders.

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Don't forget to check out the hammer and krivo timed. Only reason why I don't have krivo is I like the stand and fill option. Don't want to lug bags up a ladder or stand on truck.
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Thanks guys trough is an option but this is the all seasons Iím talking about. During off season I will also have a free choice feeder going in the same spot but this is just so I can keep it going through the season. In the off season this would give me 4k lbs of feed per spot to cut refill trips. My free choice also converts to corn so I could have 1 ton of corn and 1 ton of protein capacity during the season.
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This looks like a great option priced just about the same as a Krivoman 2,000 + timed protein lower unit for those of us not close to Krivoman. Anyone have one of these?
Anyone have one of the All Season's timed units up above?
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This looks like a great option priced just about the same as a Krivoman 2,000 + timed protein lower unit for those of us not close to Krivoman. Anyone have one of these?


I've got 2 on order so I will be the guinea pig.

The coons are not going to be pleased with the shut down of their all night protein buffet.
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I've got 2 on order so I will be the guinea pig.

The coons are not going to be pleased with the shut down of their all night protein buffet.
If you don't mind let me know what you think when you get them running.
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No problem at all. Will do
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I've got that 2000lb timed pro evo unit above. Put it out last year and haven't had any issues with it so far. Really like being able to determine the amount of protein fed which allows me to know how often to go for a refill and keep loss to a minimum.
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No problem at all. Will do
How are these feeders working out for you? What happens if the tubes fill up? Does the spinner keep trying to spin and get damaged? Can it be filled from the bed of a truck or is it too high? Is it heavy duty enough to withstand aoudad?


Thanks for any updates. I am just about sold on this one.
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How are these feeders working out for you? What happens if the tubes fill up? Does the spinner keep trying to spin and get damaged? Can it be filled from the bed of a truck or is it too high? Is it heavy duty enough to withstand aoudad?


Thanks for any updates. I am just about sold on this one.
In a word.....TERRIBLE!!!!!

Either one or both of them was clogged up where the mechanism spins every single time we went to them. Had to take them apart and unclog it every time. Took 6 months or so to get 1 ton of protein fed out of one. A complete waste of a protein feeding season.

I don't have a clue what was wrong with the 2 we got and All Seasons, while providing outstanding customer service, couldn't make sense of the issue. They gave me stuff to adjust and check but it never helped.

All Seasons finally offered to replace them both to solve our problems and I just traded for 3000# gravity flow since I just didn't want to risk issues with the timed again. I was pretty fed up with the feeders at that point.

They seemed very honest about not getting very many calls about them and the adjustment that usually solved the problem but it didn't help with mine, but they could not have been better at customer service. Those 2 feeders just had issues.
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In a word.....TERRIBLE!!!!!

Either one or both of them was clogged up where the mechanism spins every single time we went to them. Had to take them apart and unclog it every time. Took 6 months or so to get 1 ton of protein fed out of one. A complete waste of a protein feeding season.

I don't have a clue what was wrong with the 2 we got and All Seasons, while providing outstanding customer service, couldn't make sense of the issue. They gave me stuff to adjust and check but it never helped.

All Seasons finally offered to replace them both to solve our problems and I just traded for 3000# gravity flow since I just didn't want to risk issues with the timed again. I was pretty fed up with the feeders at that point.

They seemed very honest about not getting very many calls about them and the adjustment that usually solved the problem but it didn't help with mine, but they could not have been better at customer service. Those 2 feeders just had issues.
Thanks for the honest update. But that was the last thing I wanted to hear.
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I've got that 2000lb timed pro evo unit above. Put it out last year and haven't had any issues with it so far. Really like being able to determine the amount of protein fed which allows me to know how often to go for a refill and keep loss to a minimum.
Are you still having good luck with your 2000lb pro evo?
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Thanks guys trough is an option but this is the all seasons Iím talking about. During off season I will also have a free choice feeder going in the same spot but this is just so I can keep it going through the season. In the off season this would give me 4k lbs of feed per spot to cut refill trips. My free choice also converts to corn so I could have 1 ton of corn and 1 ton of protein capacity during the season.
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I am, havenít had a single issue. Been debating on buying another, not sure I want to double the protein bill right now though! The times I have cleaned it out have been pretty easy, unbolt the lower unit (8 10mm self tapping screws), clean up and re-bolt.

During growing season I throw enough protein that there is still a little leftover that carries in to the night. (I only feed once in the morning). This really conditions deer to be ready for the morning feed. When hunting season comes around I reduce the feed amount and add 3 bags or so of corn, deer still wait around for the morning feeding. The bottom of the feed tube is a mesh, havenít had any clogging issues in the tube due to rain.

It did originally take me some time to figure out how much to feed it took to keep the deer fed. By watching the deer, checking the feeder before it went off to see how much was left over, and checking tail cams I was able to get it pretty dialed in.

Just now starting to see some results of feeding with increased buck and doe numbers, havenít seen many, if any, spikes this year; all 1 yr old bucks have been fork horns or bigger. 2-3 yr old bucks look stronger than before. For the first time also seen a freaky buck. Does no longer look skinny while pregnant. Fawn crops have been looking great, mommas stay fat throughout the season and bucks recover nicely after the rut.

About the only thing Iíve noticed on the feeder is the paint has started coming off in some places over the past three years. The only thing I can think of is this is from bucks craping their antlers near the feed tubes? Itís kind of like a scratching on the tubes and some places on the legs.



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I am, havenít had a single issue. Been debating on buying another, not sure I want to double the protein bill right now though! The times I have cleaned it out have been pretty easy, unbolt the lower unit (8 10mm self tapping screws), clean up and re-bolt.

During growing season I throw enough protein that there is still a little leftover that carries in to the night. (I only feed once in the morning). This really conditions deer to be ready for the morning feed. When hunting season comes around I reduce the feed amount and add 3 bags or so of corn, deer still wait around for the morning feeding. The bottom of the feed tube is a mesh, havenít had any clogging issues in the tube due to rain.

It did originally take me some time to figure out how much to feed it took to keep the deer fed. By watching the deer, checking the feeder before it went off to see how much was left over, and checking tail cams I was able to get it pretty dialed in.

Just now starting to see some results of feeding with increased buck and doe numbers, havenít seen many, if any, spikes this year; all 1 yr old bucks have been fork horns or bigger. 2-3 yr old bucks look stronger than before. For the first time also seen a freaky buck. Does no longer look skinny while pregnant. Fawn crops have been looking great, mommas stay fat throughout the season and bucks recover nicely after the rut.

About the only thing Iíve noticed on the feeder is the paint has started coming off in some places over the past three years. The only thing I can think of is this is from bucks craping their antlers near the feed tubes? Itís kind of like a scratching on the tubes and some places on the legs.



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Honestly, this response really doesn't surprise me based on my conversations with All Seasons. They seem to be a relatively problem free unit for them overall. The only thing they could figure is our 2 were made incorrectly somehow. Don't know if they had any other issues from that "batch" per se.

Just didn't feel like taking the risk with 2 replacement ones when I knew free choice would be a non-issue. All night coon pics are aggravating for sure, because I tried to prevent the issue initially.
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Wonder if you had a leak near the window? Somehow moisture was getting in to clog things up.


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Old 11-08-2019, 11:27 AM   #46
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Wonder if you had a leak near the window? Somehow moisture was getting in to clog things up.


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After several times of taking all of the self tapers out to take the thrower part down, I was definitely getting water in from the washers on the screws not sealing up tight anymore. Prior to that, we would drop the whole box, dig through all of the dry protein on the ground and find no clumps at all. It was all sitting at the bottom of the funnel and not coming down through the hole to the thrower. The hole seemed big enough and we even checked the gap on the thrower like they told us to, but it was not getting down to the thrower so that wasn't the issue.

We tried Angelo Pellets, Record Rack and Antlermax. Didn't matter.
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Crazy! Canít imagine flipping the sucker over to get protein out. The one time I had a major clean up (before the deer knew what protein was, tubes were full and protein was almost 1yr old) I removed the lower unit and stuck a piece of PVC pipe and everything came down. Reached inside through the top and scrapped the corners.

The only other thing I could think of was that maybe your bin is sweating? The screws to remove the lower unit are on the bottom under the hopper, Id think it would be tough for water to go up through.

Forgot to mention. The one big problem I had with it was the timer that came with it, went out on me and replaced it with ďThe TimerĒ.


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