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Old 07-23-2019, 11:42 AM   #1
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Think this type of crimper would work for small food plots about 1-2ac? I donít want to spend a couple thousand dollars on a crimper that I would use twice a year. Iím thinking something bigger in diameter than an oxygen tank and adding some weight, but you get the idea. Been talking to local guy to get it made. I donít have a welder or the time to make it.



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Old 07-23-2019, 11:49 AM   #2
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Idk if it’ll be heavy enough as is. I’d suggest using round steel pipe with a threaded cap on one end so you can add/remove water or sand to vary the weight. Otherwise it looks good to me. Let us know if it works well cause I may need to build me one
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Old 07-23-2019, 12:55 PM   #3
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I think someone here on TBH may have built that. I'd have to do a little digging, but I know I have seen this on here somewhere.

I'd like to know how well it works because I could use one as well.
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I like the idea, but weight is what makes a crimper work. Not sure an ATV can handle that.
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Old 07-26-2019, 02:08 PM   #5
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I'll update when it's finished. Planning to add extra weight and a plug or cap on one side to add sand or water. I can pull it with the tractor if it's too heavy for the atv but it shouldn't be too bad as long as it rolls ok.
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Old 07-26-2019, 08:36 PM   #7
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I'll update when it's finished. Planning to add extra weight and a plug or cap on one side to add sand or water. I can pull it with the tractor if it's too heavy for the atv but it shouldn't be too bad as long as it rolls ok.
300lbs should be good
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Old 08-26-2019, 09:14 PM   #8
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Went with a thicker pipe and heavier angle iron to increase weight. Itís heavy, but not sure how much. The dry weeds are pretty tough to knock down. I think it will work much better on winter wheat and oats in the spring when still green.









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Old 08-27-2019, 10:44 AM   #9
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Awesome stuff! Maybe add a bracket of some sort to add more weight to it if needed?
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:55 AM   #10
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So I know what you are doing, just don't know why, could you fill me in?
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Old 08-27-2019, 03:22 PM   #11
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Awesome stuff! Maybe add a bracket of some sort to add more weight to it if needed?
Yep, might add on some steel or put a post for adding weights on top of the triangle frame if needed.

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So I know what you are doing, just don't know why, could you fill me in?

The idea is it's a way to improve soil quality w/o fertilizer, herbicides, and discing up the soil each time you plant. Crimping is designed to terminate the standing veg and provide a thatch/mulch for the seeds to grow and limit moisture loss. This is just a trial for me to see if it's going to work for not.

See El Gato's thread and look it up on Growing Deer tv. They both use crimpers on a much larger scale with real equipment. Works best with a no-till drill but also can be done by broadcasting seed before knocking it down. Using one with an atv allows me to get to plots that my tractor couldn't reach when its too muddy.
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The idea is it's a way to improve soil quality w/o fertilizer, herbicides, and discing up the soil each time you plant. Crimping is designed to terminate the standing veg and provide a thatch/mulch for the seeds to grow and limit moisture loss. This is just a trial for me to see if it's going to work for not.

See El Gato's thread and look it up on Growing Deer tv. They both use crimpers on a much larger scale with real equipment. Works best with a no-till drill but also can be done by broadcasting seed before knocking it down. Using one with an atv allows me to get to plots that my tractor couldn't reach when its too muddy.[/QUOTE]


That makes sense. I can see how having the ATV size would be a lot more "agile" than a bigger one for the tractor.

You might even think about a "tandem" set. It might be like a pre crimp then the second one knock it down all the way. Either way really cool build!
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Old 08-28-2019, 07:29 AM   #13
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An old water heater core may be a good idea too, allows you to fill with water. Curious how well this works
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That's pretty snazzy
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Old 08-28-2019, 07:15 PM   #15
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I like it
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Old 08-30-2019, 01:50 PM   #16
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Would putting some form of bevel on the angle iron help it? I could see the rounded edges just bending the stalks into the ground.
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:02 PM   #17
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Hooked the junior crimper up today and layed down some elbon rye after we broadcasted some sunflower. The crimper worked best on the taller stalks but not too bad overall. Iíll shred what sticks back up later if needed.






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Old 04-10-2020, 11:56 AM   #18
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That’s a great build! One reason the commercial made ones have a “v” tread to them is to increase “pounds per square inch”. With the straigh flat rib you are displacing all the weight on probably 2 or more full lengths of runners. That will impede its crimping ability. But for home built and your intended purpose, you did a great job

Spraying before will greatly increases your effectiveness at a minimum cost and time.
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Old 04-10-2020, 03:56 PM   #19
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Thanks, but I didnít build it. I gave a real welder the design and paid him to do it. Itís a lil fella but works pretty good with the four wheeler and much better than the old log roller




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Grass may not be mature enough to crimp. Needs a stiff stem to snap
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Old 04-10-2020, 11:35 PM   #22
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Grass may not be mature enough to crimp. Needs a stiff stem to snap
Is this where spraying first and then coming back a week or so later to crimp would be better?
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Old 04-11-2020, 06:44 AM   #23
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It is my understanding the one of the main advantages of the crimper is reduce/avoid the use of herbicides


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It is my understanding the one of the main advantages of the crimper is reduce/avoid the use of herbicides


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It will, and has several advantages. But about the only disadvantage (in our area), is you need post mature grass to crimp. That puts us in Texas very late to terminate grass, which puts our spring planting too far back (imho). Gly will kill it and the packer is a fast alternative to shedding. And does a great job covering soil
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Old 05-11-2021, 12:04 PM   #25
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That's awesome!! ill have to build one later on
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Old 05-11-2021, 12:33 PM   #26
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Pretty cool idea!! A good old fashioned railroad crosstie drug behind an atv works pretty good for folks that aren’t mechanically inclined.
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Old 05-13-2021, 07:54 PM   #27
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How is crimping better than just cutting the grass with a brush hog?
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Old 05-14-2021, 02:12 PM   #28
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How is crimping better than just cutting the grass with a brush hog?
A crimper isn't used to kill grass or weeds like a shredder/mower, but terminate a previously planted cover crop such as rye/wheat/oats/buckwheat/clover/vetch, etc. The terminated crop forms a thick and even layer of thatch that reduces weed germination, holds moisture, keeps the soil cooler, turns into organic matter or slow release fertilizer. In large scale no-till farming it reduces herbicide, fertilizer, and tractor operating use/costs. Look up the Buffalo System for food plots.

This little crimper I pull isn't big enough to terminate like a heavy 3-pt crimper does but it sure worked good this year leaving a thick blanket of mulch.

Great video from el gato explains it best:
https://youtu.be/WS07EHzcOfk

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