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Old 04-29-2021, 03:30 PM   #1
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Default B-12 shots, t-shots or stimulants Anyone?

Been dragging for some years now. Turning 48 and feel like I've shot my wad. Prescription stimulant used to work well but is now ineffective. Also spacey. Lab was normal, thyroid normal. Neurologist test results were broad average.
Anything work for you? Thanks..
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Old 04-29-2021, 03:35 PM   #2
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Did you get your Testosterone levels checked?
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Old 04-29-2021, 03:37 PM   #3
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Yes. Normal enough not to warrant t-shots.
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Old 04-29-2021, 03:40 PM   #4
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How much exercise are you getting?
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Old 04-29-2021, 03:42 PM   #5
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Are you overweight?
Exercise regularly?
Getting those 2 in check is where I would start.
If the adderalls, and vyvanse aint working, theres not much else left but meth when it comes to synthetics.
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Old 04-29-2021, 03:44 PM   #6
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Yes. Normal enough not to warrant t-shots.
Well, if they are like my old doctor that went on a scale from 250-900 then I would try somewhere else. Not everybody's numbers will be in that area. My urologist treats the person not the number. Maybe something else, just throwing out my experience. Goodluck.
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Old 04-29-2021, 03:45 PM   #7
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Are you overweight?
Exercise regularly?
Getting those 2 in check is where I would start.
If the adderalls, and vyvanse aint working, theres not much else left but meth when it comes to synthetics.
To add, a lot of fatigue comes from your brain.
Alotof people are fatigued until its time to do something you really want to do, or doing something your excited about.
There are brain "pills" for lack of a better word that increase mental alertness.
Combinations of things like Gingo, etc..
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Old 04-29-2021, 03:50 PM   #8
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Do this for six months then buy me a 12 pack of Corona Light, if you have the discipline.

Get a moderate exercise program going
Take only 10mg per day of DHEA
4 random Tablespoons per day Avocado oil
Get good sleep at night
Eat fairly healthy and consistently 4 meals plus per day
Stop eating all nightshade vegetables
Only drink water for the most part
Stop coffee and take Guarana (find your dose)

PM me when you ready to get me the beer.
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Old 04-29-2021, 03:59 PM   #9
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Add a good multi vitamin/mineral like Centrum to that if you aren’t already.
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:07 PM   #10
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Johnny- Im OK with all but giving up my coffee in the morning- i agree with most- Get your exercise right- eat food that your body needs- drink water- sleep- If this is the recipe they are giving college athletes I bet it works for a 50 - 60 - 70 year old person as well
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:42 PM   #11
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Do this for six months then buy me a 12 pack of Corona Light, if you have the discipline.

Get a moderate exercise program going
Take only 10mg per day of DHEA
4 random Tablespoons per day Avocado oil
Get good sleep at night
Eat fairly healthy and consistently 4 meals plus per day
Stop eating all nightshade vegetables
Only drink water for the most part
Stop coffee and take Guarana (find your dose)

PM me when you ready to get me the beer.
I've seen you mention avoiding nightshade vegetables a few times, because of inflammation?
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Old 04-29-2021, 04:53 PM   #12
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what the heck are nightshade vegetables ???
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Old 04-29-2021, 05:06 PM   #13
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Look up zip fizz. High b12 contents . . Mix with bottled water. Been taking for 6 yrs. have not been sick either for those years. Has several different vitamins in it. A lot of different flavors also.
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Old 04-29-2021, 07:26 PM   #14
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I've seen you mention avoiding nightshade vegetables a few times, because of inflammation?
Yes, that too…


Look, I get everyone’s reaction on the subject so I’ll tell you my deal.

So I’ve always had weird autoimmune stuff that you wouldn’t think was auto immune stuff from arthritis, to eye conditions, and a host of other stuff. I’ve always tried to cure these things myself but failed, so did doctors. Treat maybe but thats it. I always had a feeling it was diet related but just couldn’t nail it down. Keep in mind some of my conditions doctors said there ain’t a cure for. Even skin tags or plaques in the body.

So I’m sitting in bed one morning years back my wife says Tome Brady the quarterback has a cookbook and starts in on how he eats and such. Now if it were anyone else I might not have listened but he is after all Tom Brady. My wife said he didn’t eat nightshade vegetables, I said “what is a nightshade vegetable” so I went to research. He also doesn’t do coffee or fungi (mushrooms).

I learned that humans really didn’t eat nightshade vegetables prior to 1900 then they became a major filler food for our diets. All of them contain neurotoxin, nicotine, and a strange form of D3 that gets metabolized into a calcium deposit in some individuals. From my research mostly white folk with Irish/Scottish decent. Most night shades were known poison or for rituals and witchcraft in the old days.

I gave it a whirl after I retired from the military and I noticed some of my conditions were gone in three days, I continued over the next six months and almost every condition disappeared. My first major sign was my joints and arthritis and my eye condition. The eye doctor scared the heck out of me, she said “what the heck did you do to your eyes?” Since my vision is 2015 and I rely on my eyes I was jarred and asked what she meant. She said your eyes are cured and there is no cure for Ocular rosacea.

Subsequently all of my arthritis that showed up on MRI and such…gone, I’m moving like a twenty year old.

The freaking list goes on from there. I used to get skin tags froze off in bulk rate at dermatologist, now I might get one per two years.

I had ulcers in my mouth and tongue that went bye-bye.

I still had two conditions that I figured out was caused by coffee and teas, the tannins I think? Coffee makes my blood sugar drop severely and causes rectal itching. Its not the caffeine because Guarana nor caffeine pills cause the low sugar drop. I found this out because they put me in the hospital for three day starvation test and my blood sugar was fine until right before I was discharged they let me have a cup of coffee, boom I felt it and they drew blood…Bingo!
The Endocrinologist said, thats what it is, its known that coffee can cause low blood sugar…stop drinking it.

This blood sugar drop is why for twenty years at mid morning I had the reputation “Sarge, we could drop a pack of peanut M&M’s on the enemy and drop you in and you’d kill everyone to get to the M&M’s”. The proof is in my bodycount and my bloodwork, its something I’m happy not to live with anymore. It woulda made a good Snickers commercial, and I was a destructive machine getting to the sugar/protein fix.

My blood numbers changed so drastically by doing what I listed that the doctors on base, the VA, and civilian are still astounded. These doctors actually practice and prescribe it. My dentist is also on board because I don’t get dental plaque either.

When you research the origins and spread of nightshade vegetables it really is funny. Tomatoes for Italian cooking…Italians didn’t have tomatoes !

Hope this helps.

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Old 04-29-2021, 08:07 PM   #15
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what the heck are nightshade vegetables ???

That’s what I want to know too. Lol


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Old 04-29-2021, 08:19 PM   #16
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https://heartandsoil.co/

The energy I get from from their stuff is unreal. Look at the ingredient list. It’s not cheap but boy does it work. Or you could just eat the ingredients every day.
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Old 04-29-2021, 08:23 PM   #17
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I'm just gonna eat pizza 24/7 to be safe.
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Old 04-29-2021, 08:29 PM   #18
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Old 04-29-2021, 08:32 PM   #19
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Well, if they are like my old doctor that went on a scale from 250-900 then I would try somewhere else. Not everybody's numbers will be in that area. My urologist treats the person not the number. Maybe something else, just throwing out my experience. Goodluck.
I second this.

The “normal” range for lab values is derived from the results of testing a cross section of people, minus the top 4% and the bottom 4% (remember the “bell curve”?); everything that falls in between is consider the range of “normal.” Using the example above where the range of “normal” is 250-900, but “normal” for you is, let’s say, 700, then it seems reasonable to me that, for you, anything much below that—say 450–could be considered low, clinically speaking, particularly if you are symptomatic. A good doctor will consider both your lab values, as well as the symptoms you present, before making a determination, but I am continually surprised at the number who don’t.

All this is to say that you should keep pushing for answers, whether it’s with your current doc or another. I’ve also observed that, when it comes the endocrine system and the various hormones that are produced within it, the medical community, as a whole, seems far less knowledgeable about this area of discipline than it is about most others (to repeat, this is my opinion based on nothing but my personal—albeit extensive, well curated, and if you’ll allow me to say so, highly intelligent—experiences and observations). I might recommend you consult someone who is a specialist in Functional Medicine (it doesn’t necessarily have to be an MD, there are a number of good PAs and NPs out there who are very good at what they do). In my experience, these folks seem to be better at assessing symptoms as a function of the whole body rather than just as the subset of a system (I.e., the GI system, the renal system, etc.).



ONE FINAL NOTE FOR THE YOUNGER GUYS/GALS:

I encourage you to use this, and other posts like it, as a cautionary tale. Before you begin developing the symptoms that come with the condition of aging, you should make a point to test and know your baseline values, for everything. I would also recommend repeating testing once every year or two, so you can spot trends in changes over time...often long before you become symptomatic. It’s all too common to develop symptoms later in life that you and your medical practitioner have to address using trial and error, all because no baseline, no lab value indicating what is “normal” for you, exists. I wish someone and recommended this to me when I was younger.
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Old 04-29-2021, 08:39 PM   #20
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Yes. Normal enough not to warrant t-shots.
A lot of personal Physicians will say this. Go see a Urologist. Mine keeps me in the mid to high 600’s. Game changer for me.
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Old 04-29-2021, 08:39 PM   #21
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There are few benefits but much is hidden on the subject. Its also afood that is now eaten so frequently the bad stuff piles up.

Hey, I really don’t care about other folks health, I just wanted some free beer if it worked.
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Old 04-29-2021, 08:42 PM   #22
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Hey, just so you guys (and gals) know, the Low T stuff is all Bovine Squat. If its truly low then you do have a medical problem and need testosterone therapy.

I AM PROOF POSITIVE BOYS, I ONLY HAVE ONE TESTICLE.

Change your diet and exercise.
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