Question for Auto Sales guys.

[Rcole1310]

How are y’all making money now? Situation: my wife is in the market for a certain vehicle, there is a 7 month waiting list just to place the order for the vehicle, then a 6-8 month build time before arriving at the dealer. Apparently you don’t actually pay for the vehicle until it arrives at the dealership (12-14 months from ordering) so are y’all having to wait that long before getting comp’d? Her sales guy says that every vehicle that comes in on the truck is already sold, occasionally there’s a finance fall through on an ordered vehicle and the sales folks jump all over it to be the first to sell it. Just don’t get how y’all are making money on ordering vehicles that take a year to get.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[DedDuk]

They barely make anything on a sale. Just ask them.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Greenheadless]

Don’t know what you are looking for, but the lots in Houston are starting to fill up, minus Toyota.

Even rumblings of not being able to move units.

[captainsling]

Ford, Ram, and Chevy lots are full here on Houston area for the most part. Toyota is still low. Nissan has filled up too. But to answer your question, they have a back log of vehicles coming in weekly that are already sold. All they have to do is call the customer and tell them to come pick them up.

[Rcole1310]

Originally Posted by Greenheadless

Don’t know what you are looking for, but the lots in Houston are starting to fill up, minus Toyota.

Even rumblings of not being able to move units.

Range Rover. Every dealer we call pretty much laughs and says get in line and we’ll let you order in about 6 months. They say the chip shortage has them jammed up, but other manufacturers are able to find chips? It is what it is, I’m just curious how the sales guys are able to make money when inventory is so low.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Jmay]

Wife just bought a Defender at Land Rover Clear Lake and they had 5 on the lot the one in Katy had 2

[Rcole1310]

Originally Posted by Jmay

Wife just bought a Defender at Land Rover Clear Lake and they had 5 on the lot the one in Katy had 2

Appreciate the info. I showed her the Defender and she didn’t like it. Said she’s willing to wait.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[eradicator]

Originally Posted by Greenheadless

Don’t know what you are looking for, but the lots in Houston are starting to fill up, minus Toyota.

Even rumblings of not being able to move units.

And Honda

[captainsling]

Originally Posted by Rcole1310

Range Rover. Every dealer we call pretty much laughs and says get in line and we’ll let you order in about 6 months. They say the chip shortage has them jammed up, but other manufacturers are able to find chips? It is what it is, I’m just curious how the sales guys are able to make money when inventory is so low.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So all the ones at the dealer in Katy are sold already? Seemed they had several on the storage lot next door to the dealership a few days ago. Didn’t look to see what was on the lot.

[captainsling]

Originally Posted by Rcole1310

Range Rover. Every dealer we call pretty much laughs and says get in line and we’ll let you order in about 6 months. They say the chip shortage has them jammed up, but other manufacturers are able to find chips? It is what it is, I’m just curious how the sales guys are able to make money when inventory is so low.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Everything they sell is for full commission now days. Takes fewer to sell when it is that high.

[Rcole1310]

Originally Posted by captainsling

So all the ones at the dealer in Katy are sold already? Seemed they had several on the storage lot next door to the dealership a few days ago. Didn’t look to see what was on the lot.

Guess so. We were there on Friday and they told us every Range Rover on that lot was already spoken for. We are gonna try looking nationally and see if that shortens things up. They have a 2023 RR Sport with 1900 miles on it at another dealer here and they want $132k for it. LMBO


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[rtp]

Originally Posted by Rcole1310

Guess so. We were there on Friday and they told us every Range Rover on that lot was already spoken for. We are gonna try looking nationally and see if that shortens things up. They have a 2023 RR Sport with 1900 miles on it at another dealer here and they want $132k for it. LMBO


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

132 for a Sport? Wow!!!! I laughed 2 years ago when they wanted 120 for a full size RR. I was glad when my wife decided she wanted the Grand Wagoneer instead of another RR.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[TeamAmerica]

Tell her she's gonna have to settle for a cayenne.

[91cavgt]

One thing to consider, every manufacturer that I have heard of that can’t keep up with demand also has a major problem getting parts for those vehicles. So hopefully it is the most reliable vehicle ever, and hope you never get into a wreck!!

[Lungbustr]

Originally Posted by 91cavgt

One thing to consider, every manufacturer that I have heard of that can’t keep up with demand also has a major problem getting parts for those vehicles. So hopefully it is the most reliable vehicle ever, and hope you never get into a wreck!!

Crazy times!! How about all the people waiting on chips for features on their car to work?

Ive been hearing they still dont have them, they use them to produce more vehicles instead of getting them into the vehicles already purchased and are waiting for them.

[curtintex]

Originally Posted by Rcole1310

Guess so. We were there on Friday and they told us every Range Rover on that lot was already spoken for. We are gonna try looking nationally and see if that shortens things up. They have a 2023 RR Sport with 1900 miles on it at another dealer here and they want $132k for it. LMBO


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I’ll make you a deal on a 2021 Maserati Levante GTS with 16,000 miles.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by curtintex

I’ll make you a deal on a 2021 Maserati Levante GTS with 16,000 miles.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He should really look into this deal. The Maserati has to be more reliable than the RR.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[dosrobles]

Wife drives a Defender and we haven’t had any issues. There is a RR dealer up the road from me in Round Rock. OP-shoot me what you want and I’ll stop by there and check for you if you’d like.

[Fishndude]

Here’s how they’re making money…those units that are sold coming off the trucks….are sold at MSRP or above. They make 20 percent of the profit. Car salesmen do no want the shortage to end or it’s back to $100 minis and counting on bonuses based on the number of units sold. These guys/gals have made more money during the shortage than they ever have. Don’t feel bad for them. Lol!

[Death from Above]

Originally Posted by Fishndude

Here’s how they’re making money…those units that are sold coming off the trucks….are sold at MSRP or above. They make 20 percent of the profit. Car salesmen do no want the shortage to end or it’s back to $100 minis and counting on bonuses based on the number of units sold. These guys/gals have made more money during the shortage than they ever have. Don’t feel bad for them. Lol!

This...my local Ford guy told me he made more last year that in his life.

THey are killing it...

[CTR0022]

Originally Posted by Death from Above

This...my local Ford guy told me he made more last year that in his life.

THey are killing it...

X2

I dont know how it is right now, but a family member pre covid made $80-90k a year selling cars. After covid he was making $170k a year and said everyone in the car business had pretty much doubled their earnings.

I'll see him Easter and will have to ask if they are still making money hand over fist.

[jdg13]

They keep making bank because people keep bending over to buy. Shortages at this point are just an excuse to keep inventory low and prices inflated. Not telling anyone how to spend their money but prices will stay high until people stop paying them.

[MacDaddy67]

you buy a Range Rover......you better have a extended warranty....100% sure you are gonna need it eventually.....

Selling my wife's Cayenne getting her a Toyota Hylander Hybrid and its impossible unless I want to spend $5k above MSRP...and I will not do that....

She gonna have to suffer driving the Porsche another year I guess

[Full Throttle]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy67

you buy a Range Rover......you better have a extended warranty....100% sure you are gonna need it eventually.....

Selling my wife's Cayenne getting her a Toyota Hylander Hybrid and its impossible unless I want to spend $5k above MSRP...and I will not do that....

She gonna have to suffer driving the Porsche another year I guess

Ditto. My wife’s RR velar was constantly in the shop the 3 years she had it.

[Fishndude]

RR

Repairs
Required

[Dale Moser]

.

[cehorn]

Originally Posted by Fishndude

Here’s how they’re making money…those units that are sold coming off the trucks….are sold at MSRP or above. They make 20 percent of the profit. Car salesmen do no want the shortage to end or it’s back to $100 minis and counting on bonuses based on the number of units sold. These guys/gals have made more money during the shortage than they ever have. Don’t feel bad for them. Lol!

And a lot of dealerships are adding extras that are mandatory like window tint, bed liner, etc. They force the customer to buy that from them and make more money per unit.

[88 Bound]

Originally Posted by cehorn

And a lot of dealerships are adding extras that are mandatory like window tint, bed liner, etc. They force the customer to buy that from them and make more money per unit.

Everything is negotiable. But in some cases the cost added is comparable to a 3rd party shop, if you want said add-ons.

[WItoTX]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

He should really look into this deal. The Maserati has to be more reliable than the RR.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This hurt my brain. This is like saying which politician is least bad LOL

But the Maserati at least sounds pretty.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by WItoTX

This hurt my brain. This is like saying which politician is least bad LOL

But the Maserati at least sounds pretty.

You may be right, but I have personally saw that rocket ship Curt’s wife has.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Greenheadless]

Originally Posted by 88 Bound

Everything is negotiable. But in some cases the cost added is comparable to a 3rd party shop, if you want said add-ons.

No, no it’s not on both accords, at least what I have seen at many dealers.

There was a thread on here of someone struggling to find a Kia dealer that would negotiate or remove these.

[CTR0022]

Car dealers are not negotiating in today's market and they won't till the lots are full and they have to move units.

[big_smith]

My wife was in need of a new vehicle and we went to drive the Nissan Rogue. We were replacing a Chevy Equinox that had been a great vehicle. We just went to test drive the Rogue and were clear we were not in the buying phase as of yet. Wife liked the car, and they offered us a good trade. I was actually ready to pull the trigger, until they added on like $4k for window tint, undercarriage coating, nitrogen in the tires, unpacking, and various other crap. We walked. They bugged her for 2 weeks saying they would do anything including dropping the $4k upcharge. She told them if they would have done that from the jump she would be driving a Rogue. We ended up with the Baby Bronco, and although I am really NOT a Ford guy, we have been pleased so far.

[Greenheadless]

https://youtu.be/B2LLB9CGfLs

[WItoTX]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

You may be right, but I have personally saw that rocket ship Curt’s wife has.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Anything Italian is pretty, and sounds great. Reliability and ergonomics are not the Italians forte though LOL

[Dale Moser]

I’d be more worried about a range rover salesman’s eternal soul, than his compensation, because that man has NO conscience!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Rcole1310]

Originally Posted by MacDaddy67

you buy a Range Rover......you better have a extended warranty....100% sure you are gonna need it eventually.....

Selling my wife's Cayenne getting her a Toyota Hylander Hybrid and its impossible unless I want to spend $5k above MSRP...and I will not do that....

She gonna have to suffer driving the Porsche another year I guess

Definitely getting an extended warranty. She’s also decided to trade her Cayenne. I’m a Porsche enthusiast, so not super exited about it but hey, it’s her car.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk